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Opinions/Editorials Title: Why Does the Law Not Warn?
Everyone who has children, or even nieces and nephews, understands that you have to warn a child before punishing him or her. If not, you teach the child a rash of bad lessons, like these:
I doubt that any of my readers would consider these as healthy attitudes for a child to assume. And that’s why we warn before we punish. We want them to understand that there are rational reasons for punishment, and we don’t want them cowering in perpetual fear. Warning, then, is an essential tool, and yet it plays almost no role in modern law. Which begs the question: Why not? What Is the Purpose of Law?The purpose of law is to facilitate beneficial interaction and to minimize conflict. This concept, however worded, is what the founders of civilizations nearly always come back to. The US Constitution, for example, notes that it was written to “promote the general welfare.” So, if warnings help beneficial interaction, why should they be pushed out of law? Consider:
It’s obvious in all of these cases – and we could add many more – that warning is far better at accomplishing what law is supposed to accomplish than slamming people with laws that are held above question. Why, then, does the law not warn? What Has Happened The use of warnings has historically been common and often mandatory. Even the Romans (no bleeding hearts, they) nearly always warned before they struck. As historian Paul Johnson wrote, Roman law tended to sleep unless infractions were brought to its attention by the external signs of disorder… Then it warned, and if its warnings were unheeded, acted with ferocity… Even into my lifetime, beat cops used to warn people who were passing into criminality. (Hopefully at least a few still do.) What has happened is that law has been subverted through a long, slow process. At any given point in the process, it was easy to see it as simple adaptation and often as improving the system. The net result, however, has been the degrading of law. Justice, in more or less the whole of the Western tradition, was held above the ruler. But once the rulers could create endless streams of new laws – thereby imposing outcomes upon judges and juries – law was submerged below rulership[1]Please see FMP #27, where I explained this in detail. Previously (as under the common law), judges sought justice, and the legislated edicts of politicians were all but absent. Here are two specific changes that ejected warning from the practice of law:
These two examples, however, are merely part of a larger process, that of politics overtaking everything else in our civilization, including ethics. And when the ethical becomes the political, power overcomes justice. Power, as has been noted before, seeks nothing so much as more power. Under that mindset, whatever limits or insults power is an enemy… it becomes the crime of lèse-majesté, of injuring the honor of the ruler. It’s important to understand that lèse-majesté is not a physical thing like damaging persons or property. It is, rather, an emotional thing. With rulership unrestrained by a superior and separate ethics, lèse-majesté becomes anything that portrays power as something to be limited. And warnings do not feed power. Rather, they starve it. What’s good for power is blind faith and blind obedience, and warnings oppose blindness of both forms. And if the law warned rather than striking first, there would be far less fear among the ruled, and that’s not good for power either. In the End…More could be added to this subject, but I think I’ve covered the essentials. In the end, the situation boils down to this: Warnings clearly help accomplish the true goal of law: beneficial interaction. But they oppose the demand of power to be blindly honored. Therefore warnings have been pushed out of the practice of law. Further, we can expect this situation to remain as long as politics reigns as sovereign over law and as an angry lord over society. (1 image) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest There's no money in warning.
#2. To: Deckard (#0) Darwin warns. Grandma warns. But mostly...GOD WARNS.
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
I doubt that any of my readers would consider these as healthy attitudes for a child to assume. And that’s why we warn before we punish. We want them to understand that there are rational reasons for punishment, and we don’t want them cowering in perpetual fear. Because in modern law the unwarned defendant is not usually a child. There are different rules for children than adult law breakers.
#4. To: nolu chan (#3) (Edited) There are different rules for children than adult law breakers. As well there should. However, criminal parental units are responsible for wherever their children belong as a result of violating the law to begin with. AND... whatever booby-trap or loophole these criminals have exploited in the process of sabotaging the USA. The Courts are purposely avoiding addressing "unintended (aka INTENDED) consequences" for far too long now. Importing fatal diseases and national suicide by technicality was NEVER the intent of the Frames or Courts via the sloppy 14A.
#5. To: nolu chan (#3) Warning, then, is an essential tool, and yet it plays almost no role in modern law. Which begs the question: Why not? Because it expresses circumstantial and awareness factors of guilt and liability. And when they are ignored, "extenuating circumstances" is used by a Legal Communitah that has become subverted to a great extent. And no longer are caveats and "as is" warnings taken seriously either. Since the mid-70s, our society has been indoctrinated to accepts the insane legal position of "NO FAULT"as well as being conditioned to accept that we're all "VICTIMS" by default, which are both patently unfair and untrue. Same positions has been applied toward the Illegals' anchor children. The question that's just not addressed are: RESPONSIBILITY, LIABILITY and RESTITUTION.
#6. To: Liberator (#4)
Importing fatal diseases and national suicide by technicality was NEVER the intent of the Frames or Courts via the sloppy 14A. 14A did not change the law of citizenship but removed it from congressional control. The intent of the framer of the citizenship clause is not hard to find. The stated intent was to include every person born in the United States who did not enjoy diplomatic immunity by belonging to the family of an accredited ambassador or foreign minister. Senator Jacob Howard stated upon introducing his amendment to the House version of the 14th Amendment (adding the citizenship clause), "This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." The Lynch v. Clark case is notable as it is from 1844 and clearly shows the court affirmation of citizenship for babies of aliens before the 14th Amendment existed. Granting citizenship to the children of aliens was not a new concept begun with the 14th Amendment. The Amendment placed the matter beyond the reach of the legislature to change, primarily with the then recently freed slaves in mind.
#7. To: Deckard (#0) Warnings clearly help accomplish the true goal of law: beneficial interaction. No. Warnings help accomplish the author's definition of the goal of law. In our system of justice, "warnings" are part of the sentence. A first-time offender for a minor violation of the law is often given a warning. The advantage of doing it that way is we now have a record of the fact that he was warned. Without that record, why, every offense is a first offense deserving of a warning.
#8. To: Hank Rearden (#1) There's no money in warning. I think there is a lot of truth in that. So much of law enforcement these days is nothing more than revenue enhancement.
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