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Title: A Crucial Archaeological Dating Tool Is Wrong, And It Could Change History as We Know It
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URL Source: https://www.sciencealert.com/radioc ... egion-calibration-inaccuracies
Published: Jun 6, 2018
Author: MIKE MCRAE
Post Date: 2018-06-06 21:41:38 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 52223
Comments: 248

One of the most important dating tools used in archaeology may sometimes give misleading data, new study shows - and it could change whole historical timelines as a result.

The discrepancy is due to significant fluctuations in the amount of carbon- 14 in the atmosphere, and it could force scientists to rethink how A comparison of radiocarbon ages across the Northern Hemisphere suggests we might have been a little too hasty in assuming how the isotope - also known as radiocarbon - diffuses, potentially shaking up controversial conversations on the timing of events in history.

By measuring the amount of carbon-14 in the annual growth rings of trees grown in southern Jordan, researchers have found some dating calculations on events in the Middle East – or, more accurately, the Levant – could be out by nearly 20 years.

That may not seem like a huge deal, but in situations where a decade or two of discrepancy counts, radiocarbon dating could be misrepresenting important details.

The science behind the dating method is fairly straightforward: nitrogen atoms in the atmosphere hit with cosmic radiation are converted into a type of carbon with eight neutrons. This carbon – which has an atomic mass of 14 – has a chance of losing that neutron to turn into a garden variety carbon isotope over a predictable amount of time.

By comparing the two categories of carbon in organic remains, archaeologists can judge how recently the organism that left them last absorbed carbon-14 out of its environment.

Over millennia the level of carbon-14 in the atmosphere changes, meaning measurements need to be calibrated against a chart that takes the atmospheric concentration into account, such as INTCAL13.

The current version of INTCAL13 is based on historical data from North America and Europe, and has a fairly broad resolution over thousands of years. Levels do happen to spike on a local and seasonal basis with changes in the carbon cycle, but carbon-14 is presumed to diffuse fast enough to ignore these tiny bumps.

At least, that was the assumption until now.

"We know from atmospheric measurements over the last 50 years that radiocarbon levels vary through the year, and we also know that plants typically grow at different times in different parts of the Northern Hemisphere," says archaeologist Sturt Manning from Cornell University.

"So we wondered whether the radiocarbon levels relevant to dating organic material might also vary for different areas and whether this might affect archaeological dating."

The tree rings were samples of Jordanian juniper that grew in the southern region of the Middle East between 1610 and 1940 CE. By counting the tree rings, the team were able to create a reasonably accurate timeline of annual changes in carbon-14 uptake for those centuries.

Alarmingly, going by INTCAL13 alone, those same radiocarbon measurements would have provided dates that were older by an average of 19 years.

The difference most likely comes down to changes in regional climates, such as warming conditions. Extrapolating the findings back to earlier periods, archaeologists attempting to pinpoint Iron Age or Biblical events down to a few years would no doubt have a serious need to question their calibrations.

One controversial example is the dating of a single layer of archaeology at the Bronze and Iron Age city buried at Tel Rehov.

Just a few decades of difference could help resolve an ongoing debate over the extent of Solomon's biblical kingdom, making findings like these more than a minor quibble in a politically contested part of the world.

"Our work indicates that it's arguable their fundamental basis is faulty – they are using a calibration curve that is not accurate for this region," says Manning.

Collecting additional data from different geographical areas and taking a closer look at historical climate trends could help sharpen calibration techniques, especially in hotly debated regions.

For the time being, archaeologists covering history in the Levant are being advised to take their dates with a pinch of salt.

This research was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.they use ancient organic remains to measure the passing of time.

www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/05/23/1719420115

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#1. To: redleghunter, jameson, buckeroo (#0)

Creationists were right all along. Just like I always knew and idiots still deny.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-06-06   21:43:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter, jameson, Fred Mertz (#1)

Creationists were right all along. Just like I always knew and idiots still deny.

I worry about you, stone. You have no objective evidence to assert your belief system.

Even all the sequential "begats" in the Tanakh or otherwise called, "the Old Testament" ... as a sequential record of historical fact for the Jewish sheepherders, do not measure an accurate approach for when mankind's conscience awakened at the moment of "the Beginning."

Get a fuckin' life.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-06-06   22:46:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#4)

I worry about you, stone. You have no objective evidence to assert your belief system.

That's why they call religions "faiths". Start demanding evidence and they all have to shut their doors and go out of business.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-07   8:35:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#14)

That's why they call religions "faiths". Start demanding evidence and they all have to shut their doors and go out of business.

You say that but you cannot back it up.

Lets play and see how dumb you can be at this subject (no you're not dumb at everything you are quite smart in some areas just not here.)

You believe in the tooth fairy and evolution.

You say things come from the spontaneous combustion of mud. Except that has never been witnessed or duplicated in the lab.

The Bible says God created everything natural. That things reproduce after like kind.

That is what you see in the world. Seeds make one thing they don't turn into something if you breathe the magic pixie dust of evilution.

Ok so idiots believe in evolution.

Just because you are a cripple doesn't mean God doesn't exist.

Tell me brainica how the human nervous system evolved. You can't explain that or anything on this subject can you. You just hate God because you think he wont answer your prayers and heal your body.

I put your ultra liberal Jameson like talking point out of business. You have nothing of substance you can add because you are out of your mind and believe that when princesses kiss frogs they turn into people. Frickin idiot at times.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-06-07   8:45:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#16)

You believe in the tooth fairy and evolution.

No,I don't.

You say things come from the spontaneous combustion of mud.

Well,smoke and flames come from spontaneous combustion,but water is,AFAIK,the only thing that makes mud explosive.

The Bible says God created everything natural. That things reproduce after like kind.

Which is it? Did God create them,or did they do their own recreating?

Do you believe everything you read?

That is what you see in the world. Seeds make one thing they don't turn into something if you breathe the magic pixie dust of evilution.

Which side of this discussion are you taking?

Ok so idiots believe in evolution.

Some do,and some idiots believe everything their Shaman tells them,even stuff written by unknown authors.

Just because you are a cripple doesn't mean God doesn't exist.

Nor does it mean a God exists.

Tell me brainica how the human nervous system evolved. You can't explain that or anything on this subject can you.

Everything alive has a nervous system. Just because I can't explain it to you,or that people who can couldn't explain it to you at a level you can understand,doesn't mean some Holy Ghost living in clouds created it all.

Why don't YOU tell ME who created God,since you know so much about this stuff?

According to your own dogma,nothing just happens by accident,so splain it.

You just hate God because you think he wont answer your prayers and heal your body.

No,and I don't hate the Easter Bunny,Santa,or any other mythical personages.

I DO have to admit I have a healthy helping of hatred for the religious charlatans that dedicate their lives to getting wealthy and powerful be fleecing their flocks,though.

I put your ultra liberal Jameson like talking point out of business. You have nothing of substance you can add because you are out of your mind and believe that when princesses kiss frogs they turn into people.

That sounds more like your beliefs than mine.

Frickin idiot at times.

You said it,not me.

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