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Sports Title: Report: Some NFL players may sit out the season unless Kaepernick -- and Eric Reid -- are signed How many activists need to be signed before sufficient wokeness has been achieved to play ball? You can certainly trust hyper-progressive activist Shaun King to give you the straight dope on what star NFL players are and aren’t thinking: They aim to get 25% of the players to sit out with them. — Shaun King (@ShaunKing) May 27, 2018 Reid was one of the first players to kneel alongside Kaepernick during the national anthem and has since filed his own collusion grievance against the league. He went unsigned in the offseason despite being a top-10 safety by some metrics and after saying that he didn’t plan to kneel during the anthem anymore. Even so, the only team to give him a tryout was the Bengals — and the team’s owner allegedly asked him when they met about whether any anthem protests were in the cards for him this season, which took Reid aback. He went unsigned. As for King, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk asks a good question. If there’s anything to these player boycott threats, we should see evidence of it in pre-season workouts soon, no? Besides, if players truly thinking about sitting out at great expense later, why not sit out at little or no expense now? The Organized Team Activities are voluntary, and more than a few players are skipping them for a variety of reasons. If “several NFL stars” are thinking about sending a message later, why not send a message immediately? Players who sympathize with Kaepernick might feel pressure to take collective action on his behalf if he had no other recourse against the league but the grievance process is in motion and he has a star lawyer in Mark Geragos. He stands a good chance of winning, especially given the political pressure being applied to the NFL by Trump. League owners have been candid about that behind closed doors, in fact: The owners were intent on finding a way to avoid Trump’s continued criticism. The president’s persistent jabs on Twitter had turned many fans against the league. Lurie, who called Trump’s presidency “disastrous,” cautioned against players getting drawn into the president’s tactics… The Buffalo Bills owner Terry Pegula sounded anguished over the uncertainty of when Trump would take another shot at the league. “All Donald needs to do is to start to do this again,” Pegula said. “We need some kind of immediate plan because of what’s going on in society. All of us now, we need to put a Band-Aid on what’s going on in the country.” I hope King is right, just because I want to see a drama play out in which a quarter of the league suddenly walks out indefinitely over a couple of players going unsigned. Quality of play would decline for awhile as scrubs were sent in to replace the boycotters; some playoff contenders would start slowly because they were missing key players, leading to frustration in the locker room. Owners would panic and want to get Kaepernick and Reid signed asap to end the walkout but that would only make anti-protest fans angrier. Any team that did sign one of them might decide to bench him rather than further inflame the issue by playing him. Some fans who resolved not to follow the NFL anymore in outrage after the initial walkout would grudgingly come back after the player boycotts ended, but how many and how long would it take? Trump would milk the whole thing from start to finish because that’s just who he is — jeering the walkout, jeering the signing of Kaepernick, and possibly egging on a fan boycott over either or both even though the league has bent over backwards so far to appease him. With cord-cutting and disgust at CTE already leading some fans away from the game, being ground between the gears of black activism and Trumpy nationalism might leave the league in a state from which it never completely recovers. As someone who prefers MLB and the NBA, I say let’s get on with it. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 52. Good. If they want to destroy their careers over politics, let them. There are other deserving players out there who will have a chance now because these guys have self-eliminated.
#2. To: Vicomte13, nolu chan (#1) Not to be out-boycotted, the Perpetually Outraged are trying to start a new one. DailyCaller: Keith Ellison Calls For NFL Boycott Over Ban On Anthem Protests I'm trying to imagine who will win the Boycott Bowl. The players? Keith Ellison and Lefty boycotters? Sponsors? Conservative fans? Trump? Silly question really. Trump already set the table to win, no matter what.
#25. To: Tooconservative (#2)
Several star @NFL players have told me they are considering sitting out the season until the de facto ban of Eric Reid and Colin Kaepernick is removed and both men are given spots back on rosters. Several unnamed star players are considering.... Maybe they will boycott voluntary Official Team Activities (OTAs). They probably told him in a seance.
DailyCaller: Keith Ellison Calls For NFL Boycott Over Ban On Anthem Protests I'm all for inviting Keith Ellison to join the boycott. I am all for everyone who wants to disrespect the flag and the anthem joining the boycott.
#28. To: nolu chan, Vicomte13, Liberator (#25) I'm all for inviting Keith Ellison to join the boycott. We need more boycotts of every kind. I think someone should start a boycott demanding that the entire team, the coaches, the officials, the owners must all kneel for the anthem. Not just take a knee but get down on both knees. And none of this just-one-verse crap either, we want all 4 verses of the anthem played. It only takes about 10 minutes, given how slowly we sing a song that was originally sung about 5 times faster than it is today when they torture the first verse for 5 minutes then skip the other 3 verses. And that's only the beginning. We could demand that they halt the game and play Hail To The Chief or God Save The King at every first down. What pro football needs is some real genuine groveling to the flag while the anthem plays on and jets fly overhead. The crowds would be thrilled.
#30. To: Tooconservative (#28) God Save the King It’s a decent song, but we’ll be singing English words to the Het Wilhelmus to me.
#32. To: Vicomte13 (#30) Maybe instead of soil farming, you should investigate farming in shipping containers. You can buy these now, ready to go. ModernFarmer: Meet a Baby-Boomer Couple Farming in Shipping Containers GrowTainers is another interesting bunch doing vertical farming in used containers. You could use your peons to run your Growtainers instead of messing up your landscaping design putting in annual food crops. You could even work out a side deal where the peons could get a share of the crops by working your container farms. We could call it...sharecropping.
#34. To: Tooconservative (#32) You could use your peons to run your Growtainers instead of messing up your landscaping design putting in annual food crops. French gardening can be for flowers too.
#36. To: Vicomte13 (#34) French gardening can be for flowers too. I thought we were talking about small-scale local food production.
#37. To: Tooconservative (#36) I thought we were talking about small-scale local food production. Intensive gardening can make a plot of land do anything you like. Food is practical, and it works for that. With vision, one can go farther. Truffle fungus infects young oaks. Plant oaks whose roots are infected with the fungus, and the next generation will have tens of thousands of dollars coming out of the ground every year, for no effort other than keeping a trained pig to snuffle them up.
#38. To: Vicomte13 (#37) (Edited) Truffles are not the answer for the need of industrial-scale locally-produced sustainable fresh produce. And I very much doubt you've followed your own advice by planting truffle-infected oaks in the hopes of harvesting truffles 25-50 years down the road. Maybe you should have just been honest and admitted that you have no real intention of doing any of these things. Until you win the lottery.
#40. To: Tooconservative (#38) Maybe you should have just been honest and admitted This tone is why I am not a conservative.
#45. To: Vicomte13 (#40) This tone is why I am not a conservative. But you aren't going to do it, not even with hired help and the land already in your possession. You're just insulted that I realize that you're not serious.
#46. To: Tooconservative (#45) But you aren't going to do it, not even with hired help and the land already in your possession. Send me a picture of your hothouses.
#47. To: Vicomte13 (#46) Send me a picture of your hothouses. It's been decades since I've helped garden/can a wide variety of produce. I have done just a bit of gardening for seasonal tomatoes or sweet corn. I never had hothouses and don't believe they represent any future for produce. We have some very large soil-based greenhouses in the area. They produced tomatoes and other produce for some years. Then they all got some plant diseases and were contaminated. Now they sit empty, ready to turn into eyesores. I don't think any of them lasted more than 10 years. And there is a big difference between what I was discussing with robotic weeders and vertical farming (containers up to factory-scale). Those are things that are happening now, that solve real problems involved with ag related to high fuel costs, high pesticide costs, inefficient use of irrigation, extremely high labor costs, less desirable produce. I'm talking about 21st century solutions. You're offering French double-dug gardening which has been known since the nineteenth century. You don't explain where you're going to get all the horse manure required but it doesn't matter because Americans are not going to plant French intensive gardens and tend them. Because they're lazy, they have intimate relationships with their smartphones. And they don't know anything about food production and they just do not want to learn.
#48. To: Tooconservative (#47) And there is a big difference between what I was discussing with robotic weeders and vertical farming (containers up to factory-scale). Those are things that are happening now, that solve real problems involved with ag related Yeah, there's a difference.
#49. To: Vicomte13 (#48) Yeah, there's a difference. You mean the part where people abandon buying produce in supermarkets and other venues so they can finally embrace their dream of working long hours in gardens to perfect a nineteenth-century French farming technique in their backyards? And after they grow the crops, they can learn to can their produce, perhaps using grandma's old pressure cooker, being careful not to blow themselves up with it and learning all that crap about food safety and expert canning technique. I don't know what gives you the idea that they want anything like that. I don't know people like that, even people my own age who are very good at gardening and canning. They just don't do it any more, even here in farm country. Hell, they won't even keep a few chickens around now to get eggs from. Most people would tell you that they think the purpose of having a civilization is so they don't have to toil long hours with the bugs and weeds to find something to eat. It's a feature of civilization, not a flaw.
#50. To: Tooconservative (#49) You mean the part where people abandon buying produce in supermarkets and other venues so they can finally embrace their dream of working long hours in gardens to perfect a nineteenth-century French farming technique in their backyards? No. Because that wasn't part of anything I said, certainly.
#51. To: Vicomte13 (#50) No. Because that wasn't part of anything I said, certainly. I'm pretty sure you mentioned repeatedly the idea of your Hispanic peons cultivating French double-dug gardens (usually called French intensive gardening in the modern era). And that you could somehow convince large numbers of modern Americans to want to grow, water, hoe, harvest, clean, and possibly freeze/can most of the produce.
#52. To: Tooconservative (#51) I'm pretty sure you mentioned repeatedly the idea of your Hispanic peons cultivating French double-dug gardens (usually called French intensive gardening in the modern era). And that you could somehow convince large numbers of modern Americans to want to grow, water, hoe, harvest, clean, and possibly freeze/can most of the produce. Then you have a reading comprehension problem, one that, at your age, is unlikely to ever be corrected.
Replies to Comment # 52. Then you have a reading comprehension problem, one that, at your age, is unlikely to ever be corrected. Well, let's see whether I accurately read your posts. Maybe it was you who didn't bother to read your own posts. Vic, #18:
Vic, #21, (link to article about...French intensive gardening):
Vic, #26:
It seems to me that I very accurately responded to your repeated posts about French intensive gardening technique and your desire to use peons (Hispanic laborors or "marginals") to work your gardens to grow and market fresh produce.
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