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Title: John Bolton: We May Punish Europe If They Don’t Pull Out Of Iran Deal Too
Source: YouTube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osyxJFa6188
Published: May 20, 2018
Author: Kyle Kulinski
Post Date: 2018-05-20 09:57:00 by A Pole
Keywords: Iran, Europe, sanctions
Views: 4512
Comments: 31

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#2. To: A Pole (#0)

Have to agree Trump is overplaying the US hand, acting like we have a full house but only holding 2-pair. He's making Russia look friendlier to Europe.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-05-20   10:20:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#2)

Have to agree Trump is overplaying the US hand, acting like we have a full house but only holding 2-pair.

Hooey. The EU will whine and complain, dodge and weave and look for some dodge, then they'll finally fall into line.

Like the colonies of the American empire that they truly are.

Trump won't even have to threaten to withdraw all NATO forces from Europe. But he could do that and a lot more if he wanted to. And our Congress and our allies could do nothing about it. Zero.

It's good to be commander-in-chief.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-20   10:51:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#4)

Like the colonies of the American empire that they truly are.

That is indeed the truth. The risk, however, is that they learn this. Certainly there is no desire by any developed country to be perceived as a US vassal.

Trump won't even have to threaten to withdraw all NATO forces from Europe.

Good thing, as Trump would never want to do such a thing, though I certainly wouldn't object, as there is no defensive reason to have them there.

But he could do that and a lot more if he wanted to.

No he couldn't. The US **wants** troops in Europe. Pulling them out would be cutting ties & control of Europe. It won't happen until countries in Europe demand they leave, or the US economy collapses. Trump would face huge R backlash for even threatening to do such a thing. Won't happen.

And our Congress and our allies could do nothing about it. Zero.

With our massive national debt, the US is vulnerable economically. Russia already sold off their holdings of US debt, about $100 billion worth, in the aftermath of the Skripal case, Syria bombing and sanctions, which no doubt contributed to Treasury yields rising above 3%. The USA only holds about 5% of the world population, and pissing off our allies will only give them reason to WANT to stop doing business with the US, and looking for ways to do the same. As it's said: "Seek, and ye shall find".

Alienating US allies is something the US can't much afford to do. We may be happy to see a president act as his own man, not taking orders from other countries, but we still have one giving orders to other countries.

Though on second thought, if such actions put the US on course for severing unnecessary ties around the world, I guess I could view this as a means to a better end.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-05-20   11:49:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#13. To: Pinguinite (#10)

No he couldn't. The US **wants** troops in Europe. Pulling them out would be cutting ties & control of Europe. It won't happen until countries in Europe demand they leave, or the US economy collapses. Trump would face huge R backlash for even threatening to do such a thing. Won't happen.

You forget our trade relations and banking dominance. We don't need the NATO threat to bring them into compliance.

With our massive national debt, the US is vulnerable economically. Russia already sold off their holdings of US debt, about $100 billion worth, in the aftermath of the Skripal case, Syria bombing and sanctions, which no doubt contributed to Treasury yields rising above 3%. The USA only holds about 5% of the world population, and pissing off our allies will only give them reason to WANT to stop doing business with the US, and looking for ways to do the same. As it's said: "Seek, and ye shall find".

Japan and China won't be selling our debt any time soon and the large majority of it is US-held anyway. The Europeans hold a tiny fraction of US debt, mostly because their own financial house is in such bad shape.

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