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Title: Why is Twitter getting away with shadowbanning Ted Cruz?
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Published: Apr 7, 2018
Author: Monica Showalter
Post Date: 2018-04-08 07:16:52 by 3-Dee
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Views: 1923
Comments: 38

Why is Twitter getting away with shadowbanning Ted Cruz?

By Monica Showalter

Has Ted Cruz been shadowbanned by Twitter?

As Ace at Ace of Spades via Instapundit puts it, it "sure looks that way" (read the whole thing). He writes:

"Shadowbanning" is a banning that's hidden from the user. They don't ban you outright, but they do block everyone except the people you most frequently interact with from seeing your tweets.

A while ago, when I was still on twitter, one of my snarky comments would get 20, 40 retweets, at minimum. Then one day many of my tweets would get zero retweets, or 3.

When Twitter suspended me, I didn't bother getting unsuspended, because I knew they'd already blocked my tweets from 99% of all potential readers. So why bother even using their piece of [s---] data-exploitation antisocial media?

I would like Twitter to be quizzed heavily about this when they come before Congress to testify. Many conservatives are shadowbanned – Mollie Hemingway seems to be. Michelle Malkin seems to be.

And even Senator Ted Cruz seems to be.

If this is not actually an open forum, they ought to say so. It's a simple matter of honest disclosure.

Ace draws his conclusion from a piece by Jim Geraghty, here, which describes how Ted Cruz, with 3 million Twitter followers, gets only a couple hundred retweets any time he says something there, while left-wing senator Kamala Harris, who has half his followers, gets thousands and thousands of retweets.

I did some further research to find out if there was any mitigating factor, checking how many of Cruz's followers are fake. Fake followers probably wouldn't retweet anything because they are bots and trolls and often used to pad follower figures to make a politician appear more influential than he or she is. The figure that this Twitter auditor came up with for Cruz was only 17% fake followers, meaning that 83% of Cruz's 3 million followers are genuine, people who are following Cruz because they really want to hear what he has to say. I have followed and been followed back by Cruz for years, and yes, lately, I have not seen any Ted Cruz tweets. So my antennae are up. I too am one of the stiffed among his many followers.

Now let's look at Harris. An audit of her Twitter followers shows that more than half (55%) of Harris's followers are certified fake, according to Twitter audit. Check out the fakery yourself. Yet Harris still gets way more retweets and "likes" than Ted Cruz ever does, at least three times more, yet with only half the followers, and the landslide majority of them fake.

Shadowban? I think there's no other conclusion.

What this shows is two things: it's not just the marginal little weasels and annoying fanatics who get shadowbanned by Twitter. It's major political figures now, meaning no one is immune.

At this point, it makes Twitter a partisan organ (which is obvious enough from its CEO's recent tweet) and not a neutral platform. In its refusal to maintain its stance as a neutral platform, two things are obviously changed.

One, Twitter's double standard about who gets to tweet and be heard amounts to undeclared campaign contributions and must therefore be counted as such.

Two, Ace brings up the important point that Twitter is thus far immune from libel and liability lawsuits that a published organ would not be immune from, because it bills itself as a neutral platform. Well, it's not a neutral platform; it's a highly partisan and edited platform. That means that it will need to edit every single thing that appears on its site for libel if it doesn't want to be subject to suits. Already it's under the gun from victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting as an enabler of terrorists – its devotion to partisan politics over being a neutral platform now opens the door wider to the lawsuits now, and regulation for all it's getting away with in its juvenile little partisan gamesmanship.

They can quit it and unban Ted Cruz and let him be heard, or else it's time for the legislators and the lawsuits. They can have it one way or the other, just not both. Ready, Ted?

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#4. To: 3-Dee (#0)

Why are you asking this? Isn't Twitter a privately-owned business that has the RIGHT to ban anyone they want to ban?

Or are you opposed to private businesses not in the emergency or health care industries being free to pick and choose their customers?

sneakypete  posted on  2018-04-08   12:49:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

Why are you asking this? Isn't Twitter a privately-owned business that has the RIGHT to ban anyone they want to ban?

I think it's more of a public utility, and while it may remain privately-owned, for profit distribution purposes, the First Amendment should inhere.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-04-08   17:16:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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I think it's more of a public utility, and while it may remain privately-owned, for profit distribution purposes, the First Amendment should inhere.

Now you think the 1st Amendment gives you a partnership right in a private business?

If twitter has your panties all in a wad,you have a right to start up a competitor,but you do NOT have a right to be a Twit leader.

BTW,I can't believe we are arguing over twitter and twits when we are both over 12 years old.

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Title: Why is Twitter getting away with shadowbanning Ted Cruz? Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Apr 7, 2018 Author: Monica Showalter Post Date: 2018-04-08 07:16:52 by 3-Dee Keywords: None Views: 126 Comments: 23

Why is Twitter getting away with shadowbanning Ted Cruz?

By Monica Showalter

Has Ted Cruz been shadowbanned by Twitter?

As Ace at Ace of Spades via Instapundit puts it, it "sure looks that way" (read the whole thing). He writes:

"Shadowbanning" is a banning that's hidden from the user. They don't ban you outright, but they do block everyone except the people you most frequently interact with from seeing your tweets.

A while ago, when I was still on twitter, one of my snarky comments would get 20, 40 retweets, at minimum. Then one day many of my tweets would get zero retweets, or 3.

When Twitter suspended me, I didn't bother getting unsuspended, because I knew they'd already blocked my tweets from 99% of all potential readers. So why bother even using their piece of [s---] data-exploitation antisocial media?

I would like Twitter to be quizzed heavily about this when they come before Congress to testify. Many conservatives are shadowbanned – Mollie Hemingway seems to be. Michelle Malkin seems to be.

And even Senator Ted Cruz seems to be.

If this is not actually an open forum, they ought to say so. It's a simple matter of honest disclosure.

Ace draws his conclusion from a piece by Jim Geraghty, here, which describes how Ted Cruz, with 3 million Twitter followers, gets only a couple hundred retweets any time he says something there, while left-wing senator Kamala Harris, who has half his followers, gets thousands and thousands of retweets.

I did some further research to find out if there was any mitigating factor, checking how many of Cruz's followers are fake. Fake followers probably wouldn't retweet anything because they are bots and trolls and often used to pad follower figures to make a politician appear more influential than he or she is. The figure that this Twitter auditor came up with for Cruz was only 17% fake followers, meaning that 83% of Cruz's 3 million followers are genuine, people who are following Cruz because they really want to hear what he has to say. I have followed and been followed back by Cruz for years, and yes, lately, I have not seen any Ted Cruz tweets. So my antennae are up. I too am one of the stiffed among his many followers.

Now let's look at Harris. An audit of her Twitter followers shows that more than half (55%) of Harris's followers are certified fake, according to Twitter audit. Check out the fakery yourself. Yet Harris still gets way more retweets and "likes" than Ted Cruz ever does, at least three times more, yet with only half the followers, and the landslide majority of them fake.

Shadowban? I think there's no other conclusion.

What this shows is two things: it's not just the marginal little weasels and annoying fanatics who get shadowbanned by Twitter. It's major political figures now, meaning no one is immune.

At this point, it makes Twitter a partisan organ (which is obvious enough from its CEO's recent tweet) and not a neutral platform. In its refusal to maintain its stance as a neutral platform, two things are obviously changed.

One, Twitter's double standard about who gets to tweet and be heard amounts to undeclared campaign contributions and must therefore be counted as such.

Two, Ace brings up the important point that Twitter is thus far immune from libel and liability lawsuits that a published organ would not be immune from, because it bills itself as a neutral platform. Well, it's not a neutral platform; it's a highly partisan and edited platform. That means that it will need to edit every single thing that appears on its site for libel if it doesn't want to be subject to suits. Already it's under the gun from victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting as an enabler of terrorists – its devotion to partisan politics over being a neutral platform now opens the door wider to the lawsuits now, and regulation for all it's getting away with in its juvenile little partisan gamesmanship.

They can quit it and unban Ted Cruz and let him be heard, or else it's time for the legislators and the lawsuits. They can have it one way or the other, just not both. Ready, Ted?

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But But - Twitter is a "private enterprise", just like Flea Republic... isn't it?

These "service" business evidently don't like it when We The People contradict their errors on OUR DARPAnet.

Fallible and uninspired men technocrats have assumed dominion.

Maybe it's time to consider REVOKING Corporate Charters that don't operate in the American spirit of things.

VxH posted on 2018-04-08 8:57:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#2. To: 3-Dee (#0)

Didn't Trump just bring all those internet sites up to admonish them and basically threaten them with prosecution for doing this to others?

Justified posted on 2018-04-08 10:16:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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Justified posted on 2018-04-08 10:18:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#4. To: 3-Dee (#0)

Why are you asking this? Isn't Twitter a privately-owned business that has the RIGHT to ban anyone they want to ban?

Or are you opposed to private businesses not in the emergency or health care industries being free to pick and choose their customers?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete posted on 2018-04-08 12:49:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

Why are you asking this? Isn't Twitter a privately-owned business that has the RIGHT to ban anyone they want to ban? I think it's more of a public utility, and while it may remain privately-owned, for profit distribution purposes, the First Amendment should inhere.

Vicomte13 posted on 2018-04-08 17:16:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#6. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete (#5)

I think it's more of a public utility, and while it may remain privately-owned, for profit distribution purposes, the First Amendment should inhere. ABSOLUTELY THE CASE.

The Left is using their corporate monopolies to shut down conservatives' free speech and equal access WHILE engaging in blackmail.

Twitter. Facebook. Google. ALL monopolies of what are ostensibly Public Utilities. They all provide Communications Access in the same vein as the phone companies monopoly that was broken up.

And anyway, what ever happen the those "BAKE THE CAKE!!" Nazis and fascist judges who insisted that access should be "equal" in those cases...but only SELECTIVELY? Oh wait. POOF!!

The Stalinist-Left-Dem Complex insists that "Heads, we win; Tails, you lose." It simply can't be allowed to play this game.

Liberator posted on 2018-04-08 18:12:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#7. To: 3-Dee (#0)

This piece of shit made his bed when he shit on Trump AFTER he found out he was slightly more popular than Ron Paultard to the voting public.

Lyin’ Ted deserves what he gets.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland posted on 2018-04-08 18:34:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#8. To: sneakypete (#4)

Why are you asking this? Isn't Twitter a privately-owned business that has the RIGHT to ban anyone they want to ban? Correct... but the paultards never could grasp that concept dating back to the Free Republic enigma that caused Liberty Post and 15 years of thread crying about Rim Job... the wheelchair RINO

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland posted on 2018-04-08 18:37:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#9. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

I think it's more of a public utility, and while it may remain privately-owned, for profit distribution purposes, the First Amendment should inhere. Now you think the 1st Amendment gives you a partnership right in a private business?

Private enterprises that have quasi monopolies are subject to government regulation. This is true with all utilities. It is not yet true with information service utilities. Soon it will be, precisely because of what Twitter is doing.

It's sort of like "employment at will". People can claim they have the absolute right to hire and fire whom they please. Fact is, that absolute right became a whole lot absolute with the various civil rights acts BECAUSE OF the way that racists abused it. So they lost the right.

Twitter and the major information channels on the Internet are using a resource they did not create. But even if they did create it, they have control over a necessary public utility. They can be regulated. We're not talking about FR here, a rinky-dink little site. We're talking Twitter, Facebook, Google - the huge aggregators of information, the pipe through which huge volumes of commerce flow. The owners of the companies can profit from managing the pipe, but if they get political, like they are, they anger more powerful forces, who can - and if provoked enough will - strip them of their absolute ownership rights and subject them to the regulation of the biggest gorilla on the hill, the federal government of the United States, against which NO private right has ever successfully stood, or will ever successfully stand.

Rights are in theoretically from God, and it is well that we believe that. But history tells us that God is always on the side of the bigger battalions, and the government has the bigger battalions.

Obnoxious assertions of "Rights' to be obnoxious have a long history in America of being utterly crushed by irresistible government power. Individuals have never stood successfully against the power of the Federal Government, and they never will. The owners of Twitter will be no different.

Essentially, they make a lot of money providing an information utility, a major artery of information commerce. They have a choice: let the commerce flow and get rich, OR try to impose their political beliefs on the stream of commerce. Problem: the views they oppose command the government. SO, they will either yield and stop the practice, or they will lose their power permanently to regulation by superior power.

It's simply the way the world works. Occasionally we need companies and individuals to stand up in some sort of obnoxious way to see the power of the government to crush it. Think of Skreli. He bought the rights to a necessary drug. He OWNED the drug, and he hiked the price massively, to make a profit from people who would die without it. He was warned by public reaction and Congress to stop it, to be reasonable. He stood on his private property rights. So it became a test of power: private property rights (and the right to be obnoxious with a public need) and the public need, voiced by the Congress. Net result: Skreli was arrested, his property rights stripped, and he will be spending years of his life in prison.

Property rights just don't stand up if you try to assert them in a way that declares war on the most powerful institutions of the country. Twitter will not successfully become a "No Republican" site. It's owners are fools to try it. They will either decide to be happy with the money and knock that shit off, or they will feel the cold steel of the gun barrel to the back of their necks (figuratively, of course) like the owner of every restaurant or public accomodation did when he tried to defy the elimination of segregation laws.

Private business ownership simply ain't all that. If you use it to abuse people, you will find your ownership rights limited, by courts. If you are foolish enough to use it to abuse the reigning authorities of the United States, you will find your rights limited by the Federal Government. No recourse to any of that.

The best policy, then, is to decide whether you're foremost a businessman interested in making money in the stream of commerce - and then you don't try that shit - OR if you're primarily a politician interested in fighting over ideas, in which case don't put your money into a public utility.

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