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Title: Palin finally speaks on immigration, supports path to citizenship
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URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/webl ... immigration-supports-path-cit/
Published: Oct 26, 2008
Author: Stephen Dinan
Post Date: 2009-12-19 20:55:31 by Moderate Mammal
Keywords: None
Views: 36534
Comments: 82

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she supports John McCain's position on immigration, including a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

It's the first time she's addressed the issue in depth, and her views are likely to shape her chances of leading the Republican Party should McCain fail to win the White House nect month.

She said she agrees with McCain, who fought most of his party in trying to legalize most illegal immigrants.

"John McCain has been so clear with his policy and it makes a lot of sense too. We secure our borders first. But then with a comprehensive approach we must deal humanely with those who are here, and we must allow the steps to be taken to protect the families of those who are here, maybe as illegal immigrants today," she told Univision's "Al Punto" Sunday political talk show in an interview aired this weekend.

She said she doesn't support "amnesty" because those here illegally should be shuttled to the back of the line for services.

"Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the law, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides."

She also said she opposes driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and said she would not halt immigration raids. She said decisions on raids should be made "on a case-by-case basis to consider all the ramifications of each individual action."

— Stephen Dinan, national political correspondent, The Washington Times


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"Not total amnesty" LOL!

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#1. To: Moderate Mammal (#0) (Edited)

Ron Paul has voted to remove any path and grant immediate Amnesty.

Can ANYONE name Sarah's stated patch?

Care to see Ron Pauls Votes?

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)

Published: Oct 26, 2008

Muslim Moron, you are such a fookin Obama asskisser!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   20:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ibluafartsky, Moderate Mammal (#2)

He is open borders.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   21:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)

"Not total amnesty."

She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   21:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Wood_Chopper (#4)

She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".

She, similar to the rest of the GOP neocons pontificate out of their asses when discussing immigration or any other issue that is pro-American.

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-19   21:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Moderate Mammal (#5) (Edited)

She, similar to the rest of the GOP

Ron Paul (GOP) voted for no path, just immediate amnesty.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   21:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: WhiteSands (#6)

Ron Paul (GOP) voted for no path, just immediate amnesty.

The thread's about Palin.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   21:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)

LIE..she supports that they GET IN LINE for citizenship, like everyone else.

Ahem...Ron Paul's record on Immigration:

http://w ww.newswithviews.com/public_comm/public_commentary48.htm

SNIP~

I'd collected Ron Paul's voting record on the very strategies urged that night to reverse the influence of "one-world government:" hiring Americans, no amnesty for illegal aliens and border security based on Paul's Immigration Voting Record & Report Card on the NumbersUSA website:

(1) Paul consistently voted every year since 1999 against putting the military on the border: 2006: H. Amdt. 206 to H.R. 1815 2004: Goode Amendment to H.R. 4200 2003: Goode Amendment to H.R. 1588 2002: H. Amdt. 479 to H.R. 4546 2001: Traficant amendment to HR 2586 2000: Traficant amendment to H.R.4205 1999: Trafficant Amendment to H.R. 1401.

(2) Paul voted in 1997, 2001( H.R. 1885) and 2002 (H RES 365) to grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens.

(3) Paul voted NO on extending the voluntary Basic Pilot Workplace Verification Program (H.R. 2359),

(4) Paul voted NO on the border fence in 2005 (Hunter Amendment to HR 4437 - "Enforcement Only" Bill). (5) Paul voted YES to increase H2-B (HR 763 in 2005) and H-1B visas (HR 3736 in 1998).

In 1998, he voted to allow US firms to lay off Americans to replace them with foreigners. What a surprise to hear Mrs. Freeman focus her reply not on the five items I'd presented, but instead on Congressman Paul's introduction of a bill banning "birthright citizenship" (actually one of several in the Congressional hopper). Was this another example of the politicians' shell game?

I reminded her that my questions weren't about birthright citizenship, but instead about using the military on the border, opposing the border fence amendment to HR 4437, his support for several Section 245i amnesties for illegal aliens and increased guest-worker visas for jobs Americans want. She apparently realized that I wouldn't be blown off so easily and spoke to the questions presented.

She said a border fence wasn't needed; sensors at the border would be enough. On the matter of the military on the border, she said it wasn't necessary--the Border Patrol should be fully empowered to do the job. She claimed that the job was done more effectively without the military when states patrolled their own borders, adding an anecdote about Texas Rangers' success in stopping diseased cattle from crossing the border.

READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2009-12-19   21:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: borntoweardiamonds (#8)

The thread's about Palin, not Ron Paul.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   21:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: borntoweardiamonds (#8)

The same neocon anti Ron Paul against the fence bullshit. I'm against a fence too and *I* have done numerous protests against the illegals.

You need a new act.

Ron Paul: "No Amnesty, No Welfare for Illegal Aliens" www.allamericanpatriots.c...no_welfare_illegal_aliens

June 18, 2007 -- ARLINGTON, VA – The Ron Paul campaign issued the following statement:

"As a congressman, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to end illegal immigration. He voted for a border fence, opposes the current Senate "compromise" bill, and introduced legislation to end birth right citizenship. Dr. Paul has consistently warned Americans about the looming menace of the North American Union and is the only presidential candidate calling for an end to welfare benefits, mandatory medical care and free education for illegal aliens. Article continues below... view counter

"No leader in Washington has fought to end illegal immigration harder than Congressman Ron Paul," said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Dr. Paul knows that America must never grant amnesty to those who are in our country illegally."

The following are statements Dr. Paul has made in the U.S. House of Representatives:

-- "The much-vaunted Senate "compromise" on immigration is a compromise alright: a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment. That anyone in Washington believes this is a credible approach to solving our immigration crisis suggests just how out of touch our political elites really are."

-- "If we reward millions who came here illegally, surely millions more will follow suit. Ten years from now we will be in the same position, with a whole new generation of lawbreakers seeking amnesty."

-- "...real national security cannot be achieved unless and until our borders are physically secured. It's as simple as that. All the talk about fighting terror and making America safer is meaningless without border security. It makes no sense to seek terrorists abroad if our own front door is left unlocked."

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-19   21:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Wood_Chopper (#4)

She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".

Obviously the DNA for your brainpower was left on the toilet seat, fookin dunce.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   21:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Wood_Chopper (#9)

The thread's about Palin, not Ron Paul.

Who made you thread nanny, wimp?

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   21:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Moderate Mammal (#10)

You need a new act.

Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it.

As for you, I've been completely mystified. Why MM? Is it just PDS or are you blind to Paul's obvious 2007-I'm running for President in 2008 BS change of heart? You obviously believe him, I don't.

I've supported you in all of your one man protests over the years and it's "I" who needs a new act? Your new act of PDS is simply stunning.

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2009-12-19   21:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ibluafartsky (#11)

Obviously the DNA for your brainpower was left on the toilet seat, fookin dunce.

Was that supposed to make me angry?

Perhaps you could tell everyone here what part of amnesty Palin is going to include when she says "Not Total Amnesty"

If it's not "total" there must be some part of amnesty involved she would grant.

Enlighten us. What part?

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   21:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ibluafartsky, Wood_Chopper (#12)

Who made you thread nanny, wimp?

HEAR HEAR!!! LOL

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2009-12-19   21:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ibluafartsky (#12)

Who made you thread nanny, wimp?

The ones who have no cogent argument here and deflect to Ron Paul and resort to personal attacks.

Why do you ask?

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   22:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: borntoweardiamonds (#13)

Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it.

LOL! Minutemen friends?

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-19   22:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Wood_Chopper (#16)

The ones who have no cogent argument

So you're self-appointed. You sure are a fookin dope!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   22:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ibluafartsky (#18)

So you're self-appointed. You sure are a fookin dope!

Was that supposed to make me angry?

Perhaps you could tell everyone here what part of amnesty Palin is going to include when she says "Not Total Amnesty"

If it's not "total" there must be some part of amnesty involved she would grant.

Enlighten us. What part?

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   22:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Wood_Chopper (#7)

Al Franken, This threads about amnesty and illegals and who we support.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   22:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Moderate Mammal (#10)

I'm against a fence too

That is probably because you don't live in a border state! You would be the first to want it if you did.

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2009-12-19   22:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Moderate Mammal (#17)

Yes. You want to laugh at us too? You now hate the Minutemen?

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2009-12-19   22:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: borntoweardiamonds (#21)

I am pro fence , National Guard and predator strikes on the Vatican each time a drunk illegal kills one of us.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   22:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: WhiteSands (#20)

Al Franken, This threads about amnesty and illegals and who we support.

While I have no doubt you think it's about who you (plural) support, and have proven it with deflections and personal attacks, the thread is about Palin's views on immigration.

See, that's why it's entitled "Palin finally speaks on immigration, supports path to citizenship".

The rest of us are looking for someone to support, and are interested in Palin's views on immigration without the broken-glass Palin supporters' deflections to Ron Paul and the personal attacks.

Anyone with a brain will see those who have done those deflections and attacks for what they are, remember who they are, and disregard their comments from now on.

I'm just happy I could have one small part in exposing them.

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   22:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: borntoweardiamonds (#22)

Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it.

I have spoken to many a Minutemen. They would not give a pro-amnesty "path to citizenship" fraud like you the time of day.

You're just another greedy "borntoweardiamonds" neocon artist. You may fool some but certainly not me. And many others are waking up.

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-19   22:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Wood_Chopper (#24)

You expose only that you are a DNC.

You support no GOPers and could care less about Immigration Amnesty.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   22:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Wood_Chopper, aka Al franken (#4)

She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".

DNC poster, where a link to back this up.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   22:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: WhiteSands (#26)

You expose only that you are a DNC.

You support no GOPers and could care less about Immigration Amnesty.

Did I mention personal attacks?

Since Palin doesn't want "Total Amnesty", which parts of amnesty does she support? Enlighten us.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   22:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Wood_Chopper (#28)

Exactly its un stated!

Do you care about amnesty?

If so , why are you always absent from the threads discussing what those in power are doing to promote it?

You focus on a private citizens statement and pass on legislation pending.

You are a fraud on this issue.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   22:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: WhiteSands (#29)

Exactly its un stated!

So you don't know how much of amnesty she wants? If there were ten points to amnesty, and she wanted only 9, that would qualify as "Not Total Amnesty".

What I'm trying to find out is what parts of amnesty, while not total amnesty, does she support?

Do you know?

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   23:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: WhiteSands (#29)

Do you care about amnesty?

Yes. That's why I'm here trying to find out what parts of amnesty Palin supports, but all I get is personal attacks.

Enlighten me. While not "Total Amnesty", what parts of amnesty does she support?

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   23:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Wood_Chopper (#30)

What I'm trying to find out is what parts of amnesty, while not total amnesty, does she support?

She is a private citizen.

She hasn't even announced that she will run.

She has yet to make a single campaign speech.

She has yet to take part in a single debate.

Yet you know what she means, maybe.

All the while you've expressed no issues what so ever with pending amnesty legislation.

You are a fraud on this issue of amnesty for illegals.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   23:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Moderate Mammal, borntoweardiamonds (#17)

Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it.

LOL! Minutemen friends?

All my minutemen friends are FOR the fence. They know how effective the double fence in San Diego has been. Legislation alone will not stop the flow of illegals coming across the border. The drug cartels are against the fence. Illegals and their smugglers are against the fence. I know why they are against the fence, but I don't understand why Moderate Mammal is against the fence.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-19   23:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: WhiteSands (#1)

Ron Paul has voted to remove any path and grant immediate Amnesty.

Is Ron Paul and Sarah Palin the same person?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   23:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: WhiteSands (#32)

You seem to be in retreat mode.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   23:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: borntoweardiamonds (#8)

LIE..she supports that they GET IN LINE for citizenship, like everyone else.

Which is amnesty because criminals can't become US citizens or be approved for a Green Card,and illegal aliens are criminals by definition.

Which is why they all want the laws changed.

Ahem...Ron Paul's record on Immigration:

What does that have to do with what Palin thinks? Are they the same person?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   23:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: WhiteSands (#32)

If you don't know what parts of amnesty she does or doesn't support, just say so.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-19   23:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Wood_Chopper (#16)

The ones who have no cogent argument here and deflect to Ron Paul and resort to personal attacks.

Don't you know that "Ron Paul is...." is their argument to everything?

You could say "Muslims are killing American soldiers in the Middle East,and they will say "It's Ron Pauls fault!"

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   23:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: WhiteSands (#23)

I am pro fence , National Guard and predator strikes on the Vatican each time a drunk illegal kills one of us.

Ok,so what does the Vatican have to do with illegal aliens?

Do you think they are all following Vatican orders to come here?

Maybe you think the cart is pushing the horse,too?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   23:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mel (#33)

All my minutemen friends are FOR the fence. They know how effective the double fence in San Diego has been. Legislation alone will not stop the flow of illegals coming across the border. The drug cartels are against the fence. Illegals and their smugglers are against the fence. I know why they are against the fence, but I don't understand why Moderate Mammal is against the fence.

A fence is a farce without enforcing the law. If you give a "path to citizenship", welfare, amnesty, free health care, no enforcement of employers who hire illegal aliens and birthright citizenship....

The US did not need a fence in the past. That's because the law was enforced before the neocons took control. Bush destroyed the Border Patrols enforcement and called the Minutemen "vigilantes". The illegals knew they could come here unabated. Every time anyone on the border reported them, nothing was done.

A physical fence is a red herring.

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-19   23:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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