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Title: Blessing the AR-15
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Reuters by way of MSN
URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/b ... -15/ss-BBJHBRq?ocid=spartandhp
Published: Mar 1, 2018
Author: staff
Post Date: 2018-03-01 16:52:58 by buckeroo
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Views: 7392
Comments: 49
People attend a blessing ceremony with their AR-15-style rifles in their cases at the Sanctuary Church in Newfoundland, Pennsylvania. Hundreds of couples toting AR-15 rifles packed a Unification church in Pennsylvania on Wednesday to have their marriages blessed and their weapons celebrated as "rods of iron" that could have saved lives in a recent Florida school shooting.
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You fellows get so excited when your view is challenged,
Who is excited?
what I am saying is might is not right, but there are other ways. One day the nations will be forced to listen
No one is assuming some Frederich Nietzsche forecast. So explain your perspective with some facts.
#11. To: hondo68, TooConservative, Liberator (#4)
Now for the lady teachers or ladies in general the Lady Smith
Thinking about making this reliable beauty an anniversary gift for Mrs. Redleg. :-) I can't wait to see her face! Maybe I will have some diamonds put on it since it is an anniversary.
#12. To: redleghunter (#11)
Now for the lady teachers or ladies in general the Lady SmithMaybe I will have some diamonds put on it since it is an anniversary.
Very nice, if she can handle the trigger pull. OTH she won't have to struggle with racking the slide.
Diamond checkered grips is as far as I would go. There are lots of different styles.
#13. To: redleghunter (#11) (Edited)
I can't say anything nice about any S&W. You're probably too young too recall it much or were overseas during the kerfuffle but S&W tried to throw everyone else under the bus during the Xlinton gun grabs by trying to enter into an agreement which the Xlintons and Janet Reno intended to use as a model to strangle the entire gun industry. I'll never forgive them for it. I regret buying a Glock 23 just because it shoots S&W .40 ammo. I should have bought 9mm instead. My feelings toward them still haven't changed.
| On March 17, 2000, Smith & Wesson made an agreement with U.S. President Bill Clinton under which it would implement changes in the design and distribution of its firearms in return for "preferred buying program" to offset the loss of revenue as a result of anticipated boycott.[14] The agreement stated that all authorized dealers and distributors of Smith & Wesson's products had to abide by a "code of conduct" to eliminate the sale of firearms to prohibited persons, dealers had to agree to not allow children under 18 access, without an adult, to gun shops or sections of stores that contained firearms.[14] After an organized campaign by the NRA and NSSF over the issue of smart guns,[15] thousands of retailers and tens of thousands of firearms consumers boycotted Smith & Wesson.[16][17] The Smith & Wesson CEO who negotiated the deal, Ed Shultz, was forced out in September of that year.[18] Three months later the company's stock price fell to 19 cents per share (December 2000).[19] Smith & Wesson dropped its smart gun plans after nearly being driven out of business.[20] On May 11, 2001, Saf-T-Hammer Corporation acquired Smith & Wesson Corp. from Tomkins plc for US$15 million, a fraction of the US$112 million originally paid by Tomkins.[21] Saf-T-Hammer assumed US$30 million in debt, bringing the total purchase price to US$45 million.[22][23] Saf-T-Hammer, a manufacturer of firearms locks and other safety products, purchased the company with the intention of incorporating its line of security products into all Smith & Wesson firearms in compliance with the 2000 agreement. |
A reminder of exactly what they did: The S&W Betrayal.
#14. To: redleghunter (#11)
I like the looks (and the brand) of the Taurus 85 Ultra-Lite Snubnose Revolver - 38 Spl. I think the solid pink guns are kinda passé now. I think the hot style for ladies handguns is the Tiffany blue guns (pretty but very few in revolvers) or in the Muddy Girl designs which seems like the latest thing but very little for revolvers.
Armslist: Ruger .38 LCR, Tiffany blue
#15. To: Tooconservative (#14)
I wonder it Trump will ban gun imports next
#16. To: paraclete (#15)
I wonder if he will invade Australia to keep you idiots from killing so many kangaroos. You run over them for sports. Totally disgusting treatment of the wildlife.t
#17. To: buckeroo (#0)
What branch of Christianity are they that all wear crowns? Never heard of that before.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#18. To: paraclete (#1)
you want God in the equation, when are you going to beat your weapons into plowshears?
When God starts striking down people with lightening bolts that are trying to kill them?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#19. To: hondo68 (#4)
This Reverend Moon founded Kahr Arms, I believe.
I didn't know that. IIRC,a well-build very reliable little auto loader
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#20. To: hondo68 (#12)
Very nice, if she can handle the trigger pull.
DA Smiths are VERY easy to make as smooth as butta.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#21. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#19)
This Reverend Moon founded Kahr Arms, I believe.
He bought it for his son who has done a good job with it, largely catering to CCW customers just as the market for CCW weapons started to really grow. The son has some chops as a gun designer as is thoroughly equipped with modern production equipment.
#22. To: Tooconservative, Eric Trump moonie (#21)
This Reverend Moon founded Kahr Arms, I believe.He bought it for his son who has done a good job
THIS reverend moon is the son Justin, who leads this church in PA and founded Kahr Arms. Poppy Moon is dead.
Love the Kahr.
The Trump boys may be pro 2nd, their dad Donald not so much.
Eric and Laura Trump, Justin Moon.
#23. To: hondo68 (#22)
The Trump boys do like their guns. Apparently, they had some long vacations or summered with their Czech grandfather in their teen years and they were both hooked on guns and hunting. And still are.
Eric and Laura Trump, Justin Moon.
Nice photo find. I didn't know of that connection but it doesn't surprise me a bit. The Trump brothers do seem to know everybody in the gun/industrial complex.
I don't actually worry all that much about Trump doing any gungrabbing because his sons are so pro-Second, pro-gun, pro-hunting. They really get it. And this is, actually, the Trump family's strongest direct connection to the GOP grassroots.
#24. To: paraclete (#15)
I wonder it Trump will ban gun imports next
I heard a rumor he was going to gather up all the surplus military and police confiscated handguns,rifles,and shotguns,and send them to the Muslims in Australia.
This is deep-cover stuff though,so don't tell anybody.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#25. To: buckeroo, Eric Trump, Tommy Gun Warehouse, Moon brother (#0)
Here's a 2016 video of Eric Trump speaking at the opening of a gun store affiliated with the Unification Sanctuary, which is featured in the insane photos below. (Sean Moon, the head of the Unification Sanctuary, appears at 0:55.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTVng0ZTywk …
Sean Moon founded the church you posted about, and his brother Justin Moon founded Kahr Arms.
The cultlike church behind a ceremony with AR-15s and bullet crowns, explained
#26. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#17) (Edited)
What branch of Christianity are they that all wear crowns? Never heard of that before.
See post, just above and below.
#27. To: buckeroo, progressive storytelling (#26)
I believe that Mariah Blake (New Republic) tweet posted above is incorrect, it's JUSTIN Moon not Sean in the video.
The New Republic
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#28. To: sneakypete (#24)
I heard a rumor he was going to gather up all the surplus military and police confiscated handguns,rifles,and shotguns,and send them to the Muslims in Australia.
You may not have heard but we have an effective border, you just can't wander across. Our Muslims are peaceful at the moment, they are reeling from the long sentences their IS supporters have been given, 40 years for supplying a gun, so we will happily indite Dump if he tries it
#29. To: buckeroo (#26)
I think they think they are in heaven, they wear crowns there
#30. To: paraclete (#29)
For what little it is worth, I think they are pile of bullshitters, crown or no crown.
#31. To: buckeroo, stage props (#30)
I think they are pile of bullshitters, crown or no crown.
They have goons at the door checking that all weapons are unloaded, and a zip tie installed on the receiver to prevent the bolt closing. NOT my kind of church!
You can see the zip ties sticking out in some of the pictures.
#32. To: hondo68 (#31)
Yes apparently they are realists who recognise the risk of weapons in that environment.
#33. To: paraclete, sheep to the slaughter (#32) (Edited)
apparently they are realists who recognise the risk of weapons in that environment.
They're idiots who learned nothing from the church shootings in South Carolina and Texas.
The significant risks come from being neutered disarmed sheeple, like Australians.
#34. To: hondo68 (#33) (Edited)
They're idiots who learned nothing from the church shootings in South Carolina and Texas.The significant risks come from being neutered disarmed sheeple, like Australians.
Oddly, we are not at risk from the gun, we managed the risk and declared never again. This does not mean we are unarmed, however weapons are not freely available to the criminal class, and this is borne out by the odd assortment of weapons found when they are raided.
Interestingly we haven't had any assassinations either
Look I sympathise with you, you have some very dangerous animals on your continent and even more among your population and in your government. We used the gun once to oppose government and the result was not the glorious revolution and civil war they might have hoped for, but ignominious defeat. Having lost america the British had no intention of losing Australia. We therefore understand that outcomes have to be wrought by different means.
#35. To: sneakypete (#24)
I heard a rumor he was going to gather up all the surplus military and police confiscated handguns,rifles,and shotguns,and send them to the Muslims in Australia.
The surplus M1911A1 pistols program is continuing through CMP.
And now they're going to add the Garand rifles as well, a favorite of yours.
These pistols and battle rifles were loaned to our allies like Turkey and South Korea many decades ago. The agreements finally ran out and they have to return them to us and they're being put into the surplus sales program.
Anyway, I thought you might be somewhat interested. I have no idea what their price points will be once they inspect and repair them.
#36. To: paraclete, hondo68 (#34)
Look I sympathise with you, you have some very dangerous animals on your continent and even more among your population and in your government. We used the gun once to oppose government and the result was not the glorious revolution and civil war they might have hoped for, but ignominious defeat. Having lost america the British had no intention of losing Australia. We therefore understand that outcomes have to be wrought by different means.
Make a thread describes with more factual detail about the considerations you are attempting to allude to. Are you suggesting that the British maintained a larger and more potent army/navy defense posture in Australia as a result of their outright defeat in America?
#37. To: Tooconservative (#35)
The surplus M1911A1 pistols program is continuing through CMP.
Hmmm,I was under the impression the Clinton's ordered all the surplus 1911's destroyed. I know a BUNCH of them were dumped offshore in VERY deep water. There were also a bunch of like new BARS,M3'S,M-1 carbines,and BMG's dumped,too. I know this happened with all the surplus weapons we had given to Haiti because I know people that were there and saw all the like-new US Surplus weapons taken out of the police arms rooms and dumped at sea.
And now they're going to add the Garand rifles as well, a favorite of yours.
I'm not sure "favorite" is a strong enough word. I have one,and if I can can see you,I can shoot pieces off of you with my Garand.
And once again,I am shocked there are any available. I know for years we were being told there were none available. I have a friend that sells surplus items,including gun parts for a living and has a huge warehouse to stock his stuff that told me there were no more Garands in the system years ago and that Clinton had signed an executive order to prevent any more coming back to the country that we gave to other nations.
I do hope you are right,and I hope you go qualify so you can get one,too.
Anyway, I thought you might be somewhat interested. I have no idea what their price points will be once they inspect and repair them.
Garands in arsenal rebuilt "like new" condition will probably be sold for something like $200 through the NRA. To qualify for one at that kind of price you have to be a member of the NRA,take a NRA weapons safety class,and qualify at a rifle match given by the NRA to get the certificate authorizing you as being qualified to own one.
If you just try to buy one from the open market,they are going to be a little pricey because the weapons collectors are going to be out in force to buy "like new" ones with foreign acceptance stamps. Supply and demand. As they sell off,the price will drop because at some point they will start selling guns assembled from parts.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#38. To: sneakypete (#37)
And once again,I am shocked there are any available. I know for years we were being told there were none available. I have a friend that sells surplus items,including gun parts for a living and has a huge warehouse to stock his stuff that told me there were no more Garands in the system years ago and that Clinton had signed an executive order to prevent any more coming back to the country that we gave to other nations.
You might ask your buddy.
Apparently Turkey and South Korea got these under some longterm $0-rent lease agreement with us. And no option in the contract for them to buy them from us.
Ask your dealer buddy about this. I've read a number of different articles mentioning it and numbers in the tens of thousands of guns.
#39. To: Tooconservative (#38)
Ask your dealer buddy about this.
Trust me,he knows about it if it's happening. He buys up surplus gun parts by the ton and sells them on Shotgun News and other sources. He's a multi-millionaire that even owns several gun ranges. Guns and shooting are his only interests in life. He goes to Camp Perry to compete every year.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#40. To: buckeroo (#36)
Are you suggesting that the British maintained a larger and more potent army/navy defense posture in Australia as a result of their outright defeat in America?
what I am suggesting is that the British a maintained an adequate military force in Australia until 1870 and used it mercilessly to put down insurrection such as the Castle Hill rebellion (something like your Concord), the Vinegar Hill rebellion and the Eureka rebellion. In the context of the size of the population the military was a prominent feature in the early days, about 25% of the first fleet and there were wars with the natives, the scale of course was small and the outcome onesided.
The population was well aware of the events in america both the rebellion and the civil war as well as events in other parts of the world. The rebellion predicated the establishment of colonies here. The ability to defend a continent as large as Australia exercised the minds of the British throughtout the nineteenth century
#41. To: buckeroo (#36)
Are you suggesting that the British maintained a larger and more potent army/navy defense posture in Australia as a result of their outright defeat in America?
what I am suggesting is that the British a maintained an adequate military force in Australia until 1870 and used it mercilessly to put down insurrection such as the Castle Hill rebellion (something like your Concord) 1804, and the Eureka rebellion 1854. In the context of the size of the population the military was a prominent feature in the early days, about 25% of the first fleet and there were wars with the natives, the scale of course was small and the outcome onesided.
The population was well aware of the events in america both the rebellion and the civil war as well as events in other parts of the world. The rebellion predicated the establishment of colonies here. The ability to defend a continent as large as Australia exercised the minds of the British throughtout the nineteenth century. The British were concerned about the Germans and the Russian
#42. To: sneakypete (#39)
Well, I don't know about him. I do know the reporting I've read.
BearingArms: 100k M1 Garands To Be Released To CMP, More May Be Coming
These are the Turkish (13K) and Philippine (86K) Garands.
| And while the present 107,000 milsurp rifles and pistols are good news for CMP, collectors and competitors, there is more on the horizon. South Korea has approximately 80,000 M1 Garands and about 600,000 M1 Carbines loaned to that country under MAP. South Korea aborted an attempt to sell those loaned firearms to U.S. importers a few years ago. CMP is hopeful that these will also eventually be repatriated and passed on to the American citizen. |
#43. To: Tooconservative (#42)
Well, I don't know about him. I do know the reporting I've read.
I'm sure he is aware of it.I'm just not sure he cares anymore. He's in his late 70's,a multi-millionaire that doesn't owe a dime to anyone,and his only living relative is his wife of 50+ years that is dying of cancer.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#44. To: sneakypete (#43)
I also read somewhere that some thousands of these Garands were the more collectible sniper-grade rifles. I'll bet those will fetch a good price.
#45. To: Tooconservative (#44)
I also read somewhere that some thousands of these Garands were the more collectible sniper-grade rifles. I'll bet those will fetch a good price.
More than people like you and I could afford to pay. Or even be willing to pay.
Collectors are obsessed people. You offer them a chance to buy a rare military weapon with unusual foreign proof marks,and it's not even money to them any more,it's just numbers.
I personally don't need to own anything too valuable to shoot or carry around in my truck.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#46. To: sneakypete (#45)
I personally don't need to own anything too valuable to shoot or carry around in my truck.
I'd be a little surprised if your own Garand is not sniper-grade or very close to it. You love that thing.
And while the conventional argument would be that a flood of Garands from overseas will lower the domestic price of good Garand rifles, it is quite possible that this release of rifles will revive interest in the Garands, especially among collectors, and drive their price even higher than they are currently. Not that you would ever part with yours but still...
There's a whole generation of new Garand owners on the horizon.
#47. To: Tooconservative (#46) (Edited)
I'd be a little surprised if your own Garand is not sniper-grade or very close to it. You love that thing.
Nope. Just a typical WW-2 arsenal rebuild,and it's a tack driver. Issue M-1 Garands were probably the most accurate rifles mass delivered to any army.
And while the conventional argument would be that a flood of Garands from overseas will lower the domestic price of good Garand rifles...
There must be something wrong with me because I see that as a GOOD thing. I can't even begin to guess why anyone but dealers would be upset over that.
BTW,just because my Garand is a regular "Rack grade" rifle doesn't mean I would be amused to see someone trying to steal it. There would be a steep price paid for that mistake.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#48. To: sneakypete (#47)
It'll be interesting to which direction the prices of Garands will go when these are released. Since they will release different grades of weapon, it will affect the whole market.
CMP is not shy about its asking prices either. It's not like it used to be where you'd get huge discounts for most any military surplus weapon.
#49. To: Tooconservative (#48) (Edited)
CMP is not shy about its asking prices either. It's not like it used to be where you'd get huge discounts for most any military surplus weapon.
I didn't know that. Used to be you could go to a NRA rifle range,shoot a prescribed series of targets,and qualify to buy one direct from the DCM.IIRC,I paid a couple of hundred bucks for mine,and it was arsenal rebuilt and refinished.
Then again,1,000 bucks bucks today is like 200 bucks 10 years ago,so I guess it evens out.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
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