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Bang / Guns Title: Misleading MSN Article: The AR-15 and America's love of military-style weapons Time and again, America's worst mass shootings have featured a common thread: the killer's use of a military-style assault rifle that is inexpensive, easy to use and deadly efficient. Did you notice the tone of the MSM - MSN Article was from "military-style weapons" to "Assault Weapons"; it is important as the MSM is seducing average Americans into a blind alley: all of these firearms are semi-automatic in nature; and they do not necessarily appear as "assault weapons." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 27. I was considering whether I should finally buy an AR-15, an ammo stash and some accessories. I was thinking that I was being a little too much of a worrywart. Then I saw Ben Shapiro put out a video, saying that he was thinking the same thing and has been shopping for one himself. Shapiro's a smart guy, not extreme at all. So I'm reconsidering. The Trump election has ruined the huge sales enjoyed by Big Gun during the 0bama years. 0dinga was the greatest gun salesman in American history. But I think we'll see an uptick in gun purchases as a direct result of all the gungrabbing talk going on now. It's not exactly prophetic since that is what has happened after so many other massacres and the resulting calls for gungrabbing.
#20. To: Tooconservative (#1) I was considering whether I should finally buy an AR-15, an ammo stash and some accessories. I was thinking that I was being a little too much of a worrywart. Then I saw Ben Shapiro put out a video, saying that he was thinking the same thing and has been shopping for one himself. Shapiro's a smart guy, not extreme at all. So I'm reconsidering. I have the AP-4. Got a good group rate going in with 15 others I served with in Iraq. We made it a commemorative edition for our rotation and invited 1st Cav vets to join in. Knocked the price down $200. Quite a few ranges don't like the AR-15 class damaging their targets but plenty of friends with land to play around.
#27. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, misterwhite (#20) I have the AP-4. Got a good group rate going in with 15 others I served with in Iraq. We made it a commemorative edition for our rotation and invited 1st Cav vets to join in. Knocked the price down $200. I like the reviews. I like that it is more suited for hunting. The price is pretty good. Then I started noticing price/package deals online for DPMS AR-15s. MSRP: $739, or GunsAmerica at $599 + $29.95 shipping to your local FFL shop. I found another new-in-box DPMS AR-15 for $399 + $30 shipping. Which almost sounds too low. But NIB is NIB and they seem to have a good reputation. That's a very compelling price on the AR-15. Ready for any customized options, considered a very good value AR-15 gun. The AP-4 is a little higher and customizing it seems unnecessarily hard/expensive with some common options seeming to be unavailable for the AP-4. Maybe I haven't shopped enough for the AP-4 accessories. I probably want a scope, not too high-end, along with a red-dot sight. And maybe basic flashlight/laser grip, not too bulky. Because half of the day, it's dark. Those accessories are very widely available for the AR-15 but it seems the AP-4 buyers aren't looking for as much customization. The AP-4 looks like a fine gun though. Reliable, stopping power, better range than an AR-15 will give you. I do kinda dislike buying an AR-15 because it just isn't quite a real hunting gun and the AP-4 is definitely as good for hunting as much as home defense against zombie armies and Google's robot killers. Maybe I just need to shop more to find a better price for the AP-4 and try harder to find the few accessories that I do want. Sometimes I just hate to shop. Having too many choices can make me less satisfied with my purchase. And overshopping really can ruin a purchase.
Replies to Comment # 27. #28. To: Tooconservative (#27) The AP-4 is the civilian version of the M-4. The M-16 with collapsible stock. We all had the Tac sites with option of the flashlight too. For my civilian version I just use iron sites. Probably because I want the boys to learn basic sites and zeroing before the fancy stuff. However here is something you might like to look at. BSA Tactical Sight/Laser/Flashlight Combo Item # WX2-231158 Mfg. Number: TW30RDLL UPC: 793676041506IN STOCK
#34. To: Tooconservative (#27) The AP-4 looks like a fine gun though. Reliable, stopping power, better range than an AR-15 will give you. I do kinda dislike buying an AR-15 because it just isn't quite a real hunting gun and the AP-4 is definitely as good for hunting as much as home defense against zombie armies and Google's robot killers. Do yourself a favor and just buy a FN-FAL in 7x57 or 7.62x51 caliber.
#42. To: Tooconservative (#27) I probably want a scope, not too high-end, along with a red-dot sight. Check out the Vortex SPARC II red dot. $200. 2 MOA dot. Waterproof. Dust caps. Auto power off. Multi-Height Mounting System. Unlimited lifetime warranty (Fully transferable).
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