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Title: George W. Bush says Russia meddled in 2016 US election
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URL Source: https://www.apnews.com/fb98faa8f69b ... ia-meddled-in-2016-US-election
Published: Feb 8, 2018
Author: Jon Gambrell
Post Date: 2018-02-08 08:18:57 by IbJensen
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Views: 5604
Comments: 98
ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Former President George W. Bush said on Thursday that “there’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled” in the 2016 American presidential election, forcefully rebutting fellow Republican Donald Trump’s denials of Moscow trying to affect the vote.
While never mentioning President Trump by name, Bush appeared to be pushing back on Trump’s attempts to have warmer relations with Russia, as well as his comments on immigration.
The White House did not immediately comment on Bush’s remarks.
“There’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled,” Bush said at a talk in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates. “Whether they affected the outcome is another question.”
Bush also said that “it’s problematic that a foreign nation is involved in our election system. Our democracy is only as good as people trust the results.”
U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded Russia meddled in the 2016 election to help Trump win. Numerous investigations are under way to determine whether Trump’s campaign aided the Kremlin in its efforts.
Trump has repeatedly denied any “collusion” with Russia.
Speaking of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Bush called him “zero-sum.”
“He’s got a chip on his shoulder,” Bush said of Putin. “The reason he does is because of the demise of the Soviet Union troubles him. Therefore, much of his moves (are) to regain Soviet hegemony.”
Bush also stressed the need to back NATO and other alliances the U.S. has with the world.
Putin “is pushing, constantly pushing, probing weaknesses,” the former president said. “That’s why NATO is very important.”
Bush also criticized Trump’s decision to scrap a program implemented by former President Barack Obama’s administration that allows young immigrants living in the U.S. illegally who were brought here as children to remain in America.
“America’s their home,” the 43rd American president said. “They’ve got to get it fixed.”
Bush acknowledged that he tried to overhaul America’s “broken” immigration system, but failed.
“There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.”
Bush in 2008 became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the UAE. He spoke Thursday at a summit in Abu Dhabi put on by the Milken Institute, an economic think tank based in California.
He made his comments while in a conversation with Michael Milken, known as the king of high-risk “junk” bonds in the 1980s. Milken pleaded guilty to securities-law violations in 1990 and served 22 months in prison. He agreed in a settlement with the SEC to a lifetime ban from the securities industry and paid a $200 million fine.
Milken, who is a prostate cancer survivor, and his family have given hundreds of millions of dollars away in recent decades. Forbes magazine estimates Milken, 71, is now worth some $3.6 billion.
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W is a bumbling, fumbling oaf who has no damned business bloviating abroad and doing a 'real' president's business. W is a traitor! However, even W is lying when he said the Russians interfered.(1 image)
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If it's true then give me an address in Moscow where to send a thankyou note for saving us from having the Bush Crime Family inflict Yeb on us.
Having the (D)rumpf Circus train roll through the swamp will, in the end, have been an instructional leg of the journey towards restoring the American Republic.
https://www.facebook.com/trey gowdy2020/
#2. To: IbJensen (#0) (Edited)
P.S. I'm pretty sure Vlad knows who the Bolsheviks are too, Dubya - You Molochian Neo-Con dominionist crypto-dipshyte!
#3. To: IbJensen (#0)
Why won't that stupid son of a bitch die and give this nation some relief?
#4. To: rlk (#3)
Another Democrat/Communist Party member will step up and take her place.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
#5. To: IbJensen, Saudi Night Fever, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#0)
Bush in 2008 became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the UAE
Der Donnell was much quicker about it, and dubya can't dance!
#6. To: IbJensen (#0)
“There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.”
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand?
What a maroon.
#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)
“There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do,” he said. “Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.”Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand?
Automatic cotton pickers became widely available for cotton picking in the 50's. My guess is he was referring to agricultural harvesting in general.
The more important issue is, that I wonder if he realizes how agricultural workers get their jobs. These jobs are not advertised. The subcontractors want to hire illegals because these folks are not likely to cause trouble over many working issues that are law. It's word of mouth strictly to get these jobs.
It's not that Americans don't want to do it; they just don't have much opportunity to do it.
#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7) (Edited)
how agricultural workers get their jobs.
Well, back circa 1985, the football coach said "who wants to detassle this summer". That how it worked when I and other college kids were doing a job few folks would want to do.
Never saw any illegal immigrants being used in the corn fields of Nebraska those summers.
Never had any "working issues" to complain about, either.
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
#9. To: no gnu taxes (#7)
The subcontractors want to hire illegals
Until the subcontrators are held accountable, the ants will keep coming to the sugar bowl.
#10. To: VxH (#8)
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
I helped a guy I worked for on his farm one day. Bailing hay. I didn't like it because in made snot run out of my nose, and I sneezed a lot. I must be allergic to the pollen or something.
#11. To: VxH, Reconquista Republicans (#8)
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
Senator McCain only pays them $50 an hour to pick lettuce?
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10) (Edited)
I must be allergic to the pollen or something.
Pollen or hay dust maybe. I worked at a horse therapy center cleaning up paddocks. Dry and windy/dusty days were always snotty. Just got used to it after a while. Some folk have more severe allergies that would make it dangerous for them to be there at all... and if that's the case, they'd need to choose some environment more compatible with their genome.
Detasling corn was hot, humid, muddy, physically demanding labor.
Still, can't imagine complaining about any of that. It goes with the job. It'd be like working at a ski resort and then complaining that snow is slippery and cold.
#13. To: hondo68 (#11) (Edited)
I'm 57, I could still do it.
McStain, the Admiral's Son, never worked a day in his life.
#14. To: VxH (#12)
I did carpentry and such for these two brothers. They also had a hay farm. They were ultra liberals by the way. I liked them even though we had differences in politics. Sometimes I pushed their buttons. This was in the Clinton Era. One even had a cat named Hillary. Yes after the bitch.
#15. To: rlk (#3)
I'd settle for him keeping his damned mouth shut! Now we understand that there is a warmth and coziness between the Bushes and the Clintons and the Obozos.
Bush I and II were examples of the two corrupted parties offering us 'Poison' or 'Poison Lite'.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)
I liked them even though we had differences in politics.
Once upon a time America was like that.
I worked for an engineering & construction company back circa 1989 that had all kinds of people - libs, conservatives, Rs, Ds, Mormons, Catholics, Lutherans.
Everybody talked about everything and nobody ever got fired unless they weren't performing their job.
Different world today. Snowflakes become predatory when they have sufficient numbers. Conform to the hive-culture, or else.
#17. To: IbJensen (#0)
no child lefT behind
LefTisT sTooge
Born again bolshevik
Maga
boris
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
#18. To: IbJensen (#0)
W is a bumbling, fumbling oaf who has no damned business bloviating abroad and doing a 'real' president's business. W is a traitor! However, even W is lying when he said the Russians interfered.
Ab-so-freakin-lutely spot on! That this bumbling idiotic globalist sock-puppet became President (R) is embarrassing. But hey -- could have also been Jeb ("PLEASE CLAP") Bush as well.
That's a great tagline, btw. Merely 3 years ago it would have gotten you banned at FR. But then you got banned in any case ;-) (Exactly what DID you get banned for??)
#19. To: VxH (#1)
What's this "Drumpf" BS parroting from the DU/Huffpo/Hitlery Cult underworld??? Wanna explain?
#20. To: rlk (#3)
Why won't that stupid son of a bitch die and give this nation some relief?
He's in pretty good shape. The NWO Globalist Cabal plan on rolling Dubya out as needed to help sabotage Trump and his America First agenda any way they can.
Personally I believe it's backfiring. Anyone with a brain knows W is obviously a treasonous, alcoholic clown.
#21. To: Liberator (#19) (Edited)
www.google.com/search? q=friedrich+drumpf+brothel
Common knowledge.
#22. To: Liberator (#20)
The NWO Globalist Cabal plan on rolling Dubya out as needed to help sabotage Trump and his America First agenda any way they can.
You are promulgating a conspiracy theory.
#23. To: Tooconservative (#6)
Does this dim bulb actually think people still pick cotton by hand?What a maroon.
Dunno who ok's Dubya's public statements, but the one above may be one his dopiest. I don't think Dubya ever matured mentally past 18-19 yo.
I presume he hits the sauce VERY hard (you saw a drunken giddy Dubya being disciplined by a sober Mooch at that funeral, right?) The guy possesses all the gravitas of a George Costanza walking out of a bathroom at a party minus his shirt.
#24. To: VxH (#21)
Your sense of propriety is warped.
#25. To: buckeroo (#22)
He does it by emerging out of the shadows and being a dumbazz, doesn't he? W doesn't need MY help...
#26. To: no gnu taxes (#7)
Automatic cotton pickers became widely available for cotton picking in the 50's. My guess is he was referring to agricultural harvesting in general.
I wouldn't bet on that. He's a dumbass, totally out of touch with the real world. Maybe even more so than Trump.
#27. To: VxH (#8)
What sort of "working issues" do they complain about these days?
overtime pay and safety mostly.
Although, they mostly hire people who won't complain and pay them under the table.
Anyway, the subcontractors won't hire anybody is who likely to complain at all.
#28. To: Liberator (#23)
I presume he hits the sauce VERY hard (you saw a drunken giddy Dubya being disciplined by a sober Mooch at that funeral, right?)
I've wondered if he's back on the sauce, maybe quietly drinking himself to death while he paints those really awful paintings of various military vets he was responsible for maiming during his illegal and unfounded war on the people of Iraq.
#29. To: Liberator (#24)
Your sense of propriety is warped.
Nah, naming a whore house "The Poodle Dog" like Grandpa Drumpf - that's warped:
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"A 22-year-old Frederick opened a 24-hour establishment called the Poodle Dog in Seattle’s red light district…"
http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/20/donald-trumps-fortune-is-built-on- money-from-prostitutes-and-brothels-6203104"
Poodles like LGBT Prince Jwad seem to be enjoying the amenities of the kennel, however.
#30. To: Tooconservative (#28)
Aw geez...He's been doing painting of VETS?? Yeah -- oh, the irony. Sends them to a fake war for fake reasons...All of what you say is true. Hard not to know the guy hits the torpedo-juice hard.
But let's be honest -- Dubya was just a sock-puppet. He had NO idea WTH was going on or had an inkling what policies or agenda he was signing off on. Unlike Trump who is hands on on quite a bit...
#31. To: Tooconservative (#26) (Edited)
...out of touch with the real world. Maybe even more so than Trump.
Ok, let's hear this...
#32. To: no gnu taxes (#27) (Edited)
Anyway, the subcontractors won't hire anybody is who likely to complain at all.
Yeah, sounds like the subcontractors need to be held accountable.
My wife grew up on a family farm. Overtime? LOL.
If corporate parasites, their Subcontractors, and their methods of doing bidness are held accountable - the family farming models that won WWII and survived until the 80's might actually become practical again -- Much to the chagrine of the social engineers who milk the city hive like a cash cow.
#33. To: Liberator (#24)
Furthermore, it would be irrational not to consider that family bidness in context of the associated historical bidness model described by Solzhenitsyn:
"in its refusal to allow distillation, the Committee explained: “As long as this profession remains accessible to them… which, in the end, exposes them to the recriminations, contempt, and even hatred of inhabitants, the general outcry towards them will not cease..."
--Alexandre Isayevich Solzhenitsyn
200 Years Togeher: Chapter 2. During the Reign of Alexander 1st
#34. To: VxH (#32) (Edited)
My wife grew up on a family farm. Overtime? LOL.
Well, it appears you you may be still be right about this. There is no standard, as far as I can tell, about wages agricultural laborers have to be paid.
Still, the employees pay no taxes on their earnings.
I had worse jobs when I was a young man. How would these folks like to cut right of ways through snake and insect infested woods? At least in a tobacco field, you don't have a nest of wasps as big as watermelons stinging and chasing you.
#35. To: IbJensen (#0)
“There’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled,” Bush said at a talk in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates.
Abu Dhabi?
I guess his pimp daddies called him home.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#36. To: Liberator (#23)
I don't think Dubya ever matured mentally past 18-19 yo.
I sincerely believe he maxed out at the 12 year old level.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#14)
I did carpentry and such for these two brothers. They also had a hay farm. They were ultra liberals by the way. I liked them even though we had differences in politics. Sometimes I pushed their buttons. This was in the Clinton Era. One even had a cat named Hillary. Yes after the bitch.
Most farmers LOVE Dims because it was and is the Dims who give them all that farm welfare money to not plant crops or cut timber.
A local farmer ran for county commissioner a few years back on a "I am going back on spending because the government gives too much money away!" platform.
He had to drop out before the election when it was revealed he was pulling in more than a million bucks each year in Farm Aid programs to NOT grow crops.
Pretty much every big farmer you see these days is a Millionaire Marxist that rants and raves about welfare,but oddly enough doesn't see the land band and timber bank programs as welfare for the wealthy.
Go figure,huh?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#38. To: IbJensen (#15)
Now we understand that there is a warmth and coziness between the Bushes and the Clintons and the Obozos.
Of course there is. They are all whores being pimped out by the same people,and in the cases of Boy Jorge and Bathhouse Barry,used to bending over and grabbing their ankles for extra spending money. Muslims may love to hump goats,but even most Muslims wouldn't hump Bubbette!
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#39. To: Liberator (#20)
Anyone with a brain knows W is obviously a treasonous, alcoholic clown.
Not to mention a coke head homosexual with severe emotional problems because he is also a fundie Christian homo.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#40. To: Liberator (#30)
But let's be honest -- Dubya was just a sock-puppet. He had NO idea WTH was going on or had an inkling what policies or agenda he was signing off on.
True,he was just doing what his mama told him to do.
Babs is the evil mastermind in that family.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
#41. To: VxH (#32)
If corporate parasites, their Subcontractors, and their methods of doing bidness are held accountable - the family farming models that won WWII and survived until the 80's might actually become practical again -- Much to the chagrine of the social engineers who milk the city hive like a cash cow.
Never going to happen. For one thing,there is no such critter as a family farm anymore. They are all corporate farms. Some/most of the bigger ones are owned by majority stockholders who have never farmed a day in their lives,unless you consider picking stocks to be farming cash.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
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