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Title: Trump backs 'limited amnesty' for illegal immigrants
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/3 ... amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants
Published: Jan 22, 2018
Author: Scott Wong
Post Date: 2018-01-22 15:45:58 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 1765
Comments: 43

A top immigration hard-liner said Monday he thinks Donald Trump’s positions on immigration are like Jell-O and accused the president of backing “limited amnesty” for immigrants in the country illegally.

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who advised Trump on immigration issues during the 2016 campaign, said he has grown frustrated by Trump’s failed promises to build a wall on the southern border with Mexico and end protections for young immigrants enrolled in the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

“We finally elected a president who called for the end of amnesty and he was going to end DACA at noon on Jan. 20, 2017, and we all expected that would happen without fanfare. Instead, we learned that permits were being issued. Then, he served [DACA] up as a bargaining chip” to build the wall, King told The Hill in an interview in the Capitol.

“When he sent out his tweet Sept. 5 that he was going to end DACA, that tweet was pretty clear: Get your act together, make your arrangements. It’s over,” King went on. “Then the next day, it seemed that things changed a little bit and he opened the door to negotiation” with Democratic leaders Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.) and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.).

“Now he’s for some sort of a DACA fix. And he has transformed himself as someone who’s going to restore the rule of law to the guy who’s essentially leading with a limited amnesty and trying to get enforcement on the other side of that. I said, why would you negotiate against yourself?" King said.

“He had a mandate to end DACA; he had a mandate to build the wall, a mandate to end sanctuary cities, a mandate to pass Kate’s Law,” King continued. “In fact, I actually wrote much of his first statement on immigration when he announced his candidacy.”

“So you’re saying the president has been waffling on the issue of immigration?” a reporter asked King.

“He knows that,” replied King, who spoke to Trump two weeks ago. “I’ve been talking to him about that. ... He says, ‘I’ve got to get this passed 500 people,’ meaning 535 lawmakers, so he’s saying he’s adjusting to the political reality. I say stand on principle.”

“It’s stunning to me that you can stand on principle, and when pragmatism kicks in, it trumps principle,” King said. “Where I live, in my ideological world, it’s the exact opposite.”

King and other immigration hawks are wary of a deal struck between Schumer and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to reopen the federal government after a three-day shutdown.

McConnell has pledged to bring a bipartisan immigration bill to the floor by Feb. 8 that would shield from deportation hundreds of thousands of DACA recipients.

A bipartisan plan pitched by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) would provide a path to citizenship for the young immigrants. But King is vehemently opposed to offering legal status to DACA recipients.

King’s criticism of Trump’s handling of the immigration issue echoed that of Schumer, who lambasted the president over the weekend as an unreliable negotiating partner who keeps changing his position.

“Negotiating with this White House is like negotiating with Jell-O,” Schumer said amid talks to fund the government.


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

Trump backs 'limited amnesty' for illegal immigrants

Let me know when he supports no amnesty for illegal immigrants invaders and I will celebrate.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-22   15:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green, 1993 Clinton Democrat, vs Trump and Congress (#0) (Edited)

10 Point Comprehensive Immigration Reform Plan, including NO Anchor Babies!

Senator Harry Reid lays it all out for the Reagan Reconquista Republicans.

Republicans and Democrats agree, Trump is a puzzay, and a globalist Reconquista!

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Hondo68  posted on  2018-01-22   16:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rlk (#1) (Edited)

Let me know when he supports no amnesty for illegal immigrants invaders and I will celebrate.

Amen, I hereby second that emotion. Let's block Muslims the real killers, and not little kids from Mexico.

interpreter  posted on  2018-01-23   18:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: interpreter, Willie Green, rlk, *Border Invasion* (#3)

2,139 DACA Recipients Convicted or Accused of Crimes Against Americans

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little kids from Mexico

Look what those wild and crazy "little kids from Mexico" are up to!

Those are just some of the highlights. Read the entire article for more details on criminal illegal aliens committing crimes, while in search of "a better life".

DACA Shithole Dreamers - Make America Great Again?

Hondo68  posted on  2018-01-23   19:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: interpreter (#3) (Edited)

Let's block Muslims the real killers, and not little kids from Mexico.

Let's block them all. I don't like Muslims and I have no use for reconquista talk from Mexicans. The white man built triving cities where there was nothing but plains, forests, deserts and swamps. The mexicans didn't have a damned thing to do with it. They didn't do anything with their own country. They didn't contribute to ours. Now they want to reconquer and take back what they never had. They're mad at us if we don't give it to them. It's economic disparity.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-23   19:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#4)

You have to be kidding. Muslims have killed, I'm pretty sure, at least 10 times (probably a 100) times as many Americans as little kids from Mexico, most of which are Christians and wouldn't harm a flea for God's sake.

interpreter  posted on  2018-01-23   19:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rlk (#5)

You also have to be kidding. We need Mexicans to do jobs that Americans dont want to do, like pick the fruits and vegatables you put on your dinner table. Otherwise you would be starving right now.

interpreter  posted on  2018-01-23   19:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: interpreter, shthole dreamers, DACA muslims, rlk, Tooconservative (#6)

You have to be kidding

FEDS: Surge In DACA Recipients Losing Protections For Crimes, Thousands Convicted Or Charged

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DACA Shithole Dreamers - Make America Great Again?

Hondo68  posted on  2018-01-23   20:07:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: interpreter (#7)

We need Mexicans to do jobs that Americans dont want to do, like pick the fruits and vegatables you put on your dinner table. Otherwise you would be starving right now.

Do you know much about the produce business? I doubt I would be starving.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-23   23:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rlk (#5) (Edited)

Let's block them all. I don't like Muslims and I have no use for reconquista talk from Mexicans. The white man built triving cities where there was nothing but plains, forests, deserts and swamps. The mexicans didn't have a damned thing to do with it. They didn't do anything with their own country. They didn't contribute to ours.

Well,not entirely true. California and Texas both belonged to Mexico at one time. I guess you could say so did Arizona,but I THINK the reality is that it and western Texas mostly belonged to the Comanche,who were not all that fond of tourists except when they wanted to build a fire.

Also,there were a hell of a lot of Mexicans fighting in Texas for independence from Mexico,and like it or not,a HELL of a lot of Mexicans who came to this country after it became America who worked hard and became valuable assets who helped build the country into the powerhouse it became. Many,many of them putting on uniforms and serving in our military during war time. I knew more than a few Americans most people that didn't know them wouldn't refer to as Americans,and they are every bit as much American as you,I,or anyone else.

Do a web search for the name Roy Benevidez and then tell me he was a Mexican and not an American,and that he should have been deported because his parents were Yanqui and Mexican. Roy is just one outstanding example of the kind of American we all want to be.

Now,if you want to talk about trash that sneaks across the border to squat and drop a child/welfare retirement check each month due to instant citizenship,I'm with you,but do NOT put all Mexicans in the same barrel.

BTW,I have two nephews that have a Mexican father who worked hard to build up his own body shop business,and send his youngest son to college. The older son is a oxygen thief on the best day he ever had. Nothing but a whining "Cholo" that has never had a steady job,fathered 5 different children by 5 different women,none of whom he supported,and who ran around wearing the Cholo "uniform" of white t-shirt,flannel shirt with only the top button buttoned,a "watch cap",and a beer in one hand. A professional "victim of white oppression because the while man just won't give a Mexican a break."

His younger brother,on the other hand,is a freaking heart surgeon and one of the nicest people you would ever hope to meet. Guess the white man didn't hear about him,and he sneaked under the bar,huh?

I have met many,many Mexican-Americans who are good people.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-23   23:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: interpreter (#6)

You have to be kidding. Muslims have killed, I'm pretty sure, at least 10 times (probably a 100) times as many Americans as little kids from Mexico, most of which are Christians and wouldn't harm a flea for God's sake.

Well,little kids are little kids,and left to their own devices,aren't going to harm anyone. Not even little kids that are Muslims.

Regardless of how nice any of them are,if they aren't American citizens or here legally,they have no business being here and need to be deported.

We also need to limit the number of Muslims we let into the country to absolute ZERO because according to their culture and their religion we are their enemies.

Mexicans,on the other hand should be allowed to come here after being screened and meeting established standards having nothing to do with their skin color or country of origin. NO AA Mexicans. NO professional welfare Mexicans.NO Mexicans that can't read and speak enough English to get and hold a job,and even then none allowed who do not already have job skills we need.

Same as with potential immigrants from England,Germany,and anywhere else on the planet.

The days of importing large numbers of uneducated and unskilled laborers ended several decades ago. If you can't cross the border as an asset to America,you shouldn't be allowed to cross the border as anything but a tourist.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-23   23:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: interpreter (#7)

You also have to be kidding. We need Mexicans to do jobs that Americans dont want to do, like pick the fruits and vegatables you put on your dinner table. Otherwise you would be starving right now.

Not really. Pull Food Stamps and Welfare from the healthy,and just watch how quickly people start jumping at the chance to work in the fields.

Having said that,I know it's not likely to happen,and I have no problem with allowing pickers into the country to do seasonal work,and then return home.

AND......while they are here working,they should have all the health and welfare workplace standards as any American worker. No huts with no running water,toilets,or electricity. Access to medical care paid for by their employers while here,etc,etc,etc. Stuff like this will get us a better quality worker coming in,and might even increase the number of Americans willing to work in the fields.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-23   23:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#10)

Well,not entirely true. California and Texas both belonged to Mexico at one time. I guess you could say so did Arizona,but I THINK the reality is that it and western Texas mostly belonged to the Comanche,who were not all that fond of tourists except when they wanted to build a fire.

It was the conquest of the West by the Gringos with their dominent numbers of population, industry, and superior weapons that made Mexican movement into America possible. The Co-manch as they are still refered to by old time Texans, typically found amusement in staking Mexicans out over red ant hills.

California and Texas never belonged to Mexico. When Cortez moved his army into Mexico, he got as far North as the mountain range in central Mexico rising up about 12,000 feet. He had to stop at the base of the mountains because there weren't enough people living there to steal from to feed his army. Being immaginative, He claimed all the land Northward nearly to the Canadian border in the name of Spain, on the basis of his voracious immagination, sight unseen. Had he known they were there, he would have claimed the Eskimos and their igloos. The Eastern half of Mexico is still uninhabited desert with the exception of a few gas stations servicing cars driving North.

When Mexico declared itself free on Spanish rule it laid claim to the Cortez land although by then it was inhabited by massive waves of Anglos heading West.

That is as much as I have time for. But when it comes to Western U. S. and Mexican history, you are as full of shit as a Christmas goose.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-24   1:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rlk (#13)

That is as much as I have time for. But when it comes to Western U. S. and Mexican history, you are as full of shit as a Christmas goose.

Uh,huh. Ever heard of the Presidio of San Francisco or Monterey or San Francisco?

And don't try that splitting historical hairs bullshit,Robert. Spain and Mexico are interchangeable when speaking of that historic era,and maybe even today in the minds of most Mexicans,who still call themselves "Spanish".

Forgetting to take some of your geezer pills?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-24   7:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#14)

Forgetting to take some of your geezer pills?

LOL. That's pretty funny here at LF.

Spring chickens, we ain't.

And proving the point, we actually know what the phrase 'spring chickens' signifies.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-24   11:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#15)

And proving the point, we actually know what the phrase 'spring chickens' signifies. : )

Not to mention the word "geezer".

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-24   13:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#14)

And don't try that splitting historical hairs bullshit,Robert.

Laying claim to nearly half the United States on the basis on the basis of Cortez's narcissistic unbridled fantasy although he had never seen, or even heard of any of it, is not splitting historical hairs. It's nothing more than a crude verbal attempt to steal the land from the people who eventually settled there and developed it.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-24   14:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: interpreter (#3) (Edited)

Let's block Muslims the real killers, and not little kids from Mexico.

Yeah, why worry about tens of millions of Mexicans invading the US and siphoning taxpayer resources and bleeding us dry, drug warlord hits, stolen jobs, ilegally VOTING for Democrats, our national, state and local LE ignoring enforcing THE laws -- whether vehicular, fraud, B&E...

"Little Kids" -- whether Muzzie OR Mexican -- grow up, don't they?

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-24   14:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#18) (Edited)

"Little Kids" -- whether Muzzie OR Mexican -- grow up, don't they?

And they grow up to become arrogant demanding big kids because of the way they are raised. Then they go on to take courses in political activism at Berkely.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-24   14:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: rlk (#17)

Laying claim to nearly half the United States on the basis on the basis of Cortez's narcissistic unbridled fantasy although he had never seen, or even heard of any of it, is not splitting historical hairs. It's nothing more than a crude verbal attempt to steal the land from the people who eventually settled there and developed it.

Spare me the outrage. You understand the historical context,so quit playing games.

I especially appreciate the hypocrisy of wailing about how unfair it was to the English settlers who eventually settled here and developed it after killing off or running away the people who were already here.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-24   14:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: rlk (#19)

That they do, don't they?

Having studied human behavior for well over a half century, given the social media impact as well as the normalization of rude, vulgar, and narcissistic, what kind of society do you see? As well as what will be "typical" accepted behavior if you had to project it? (I know this is a loaded, complicated series of questions....Take you time. I'd be very interested in what you have to say.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-24   14:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#11)

Well,little kids are little kids,and left to their own devices,aren't going to harm anyone.

They aren't left to their own devices. The receive strong guidance from Obama, Hillary, the corrupt educational system, and the media.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-24   15:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: rlk (#19)

Then they go on to take courses in political activism at Berkely.

Aided and abetted by the dean, faculty, Mayor, AND its police force, which enforces a leftist Sharia.

Berkeley is a wealthy, elitist Soviet microcosm of Soviet-Liberal-Lefist hypocrisy in action.

How would you define what Berkeley as a school, as a town is these days? Is is a Stepford Wives/People Cult? Seems to me that its credo and mission statement (if they have one) is, "BURN IT DOWN!...(but not our stashes of weed, stock certificates and oceanfront homes)."

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-24   15:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rlk, sneakypete (#22) (Edited)

They aren't left to their own devices. The receive strong guidance from Obama, Hillary, the corrupt educational system, and the media.

THIS is true.

Indoctrinated to hate and resent, these little devils will cause a bunch of trouble by age 10. As teens, and via reinforcement on social media, they will be at war with The Establishment (Whitey)...WITH impunity.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-24   15:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

Awfully quiet, Willie...

Just dropping your usual deuce, aka Leftist propagandist tripe...then running? What is YOUR opinion on Amnesty for 40 million Illegal Invaders?

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-24   15:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#25)

What is YOUR opinion on Amnesty for 40 million Illegal Invaders?

My opinion is one of relief that someone has given an accurate estimate of the number of invaders instead of the customary 11 million. Now let's get them all signed up to vote for Hillary or Pocahauntis...

rlk  posted on  2018-01-24   17:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#25)

What is YOUR opinion on Amnesty for 40 million Illegal Invaders?

That I told you idiots all along that Trump was going to backstab you...

Willie Green  posted on  2018-01-25   19:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#20)

I especially appreciate the hypocrisy of wailing about how unfair it was to the English settlers who eventually settled here and developed it after killing off or running away the people who were already here.

There were people here, but barely. There was no sense of unity within the population. American indians were sparse and the tribes were hostile and at war with each other. As far as physical development of the country, it was non existent. If you doubt this, try living in a teepee in South Dakota at sub zero temperatures and becoming old, sick, and worn out by age 35. Indian life in glorified in movies, but did not represent reality.

The reality was more like starved rock in Illinois.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-25   22:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: rlk (#28)

There were people here, but barely. There was no sense of unity within the population. American indians were sparse and the tribes were hostile and at war with each other. As far as physical development of the country, it was non existent. If you doubt this, try living in a teepee in South Dakota at sub zero temperatures and becoming old, sick, and worn out by age 35. Indian life in glorified in movies, but did not represent reality.

My grandmother was a full-blooded Tuscarora,and the first time the British did a Tuscorara massacre was in 1700.. Which kinda pissed the Tuscarora off and they wiped out a British settlement,resulting in the British paying the Tuscarora traditional enemies to help them deal with their problem. The British eventually paid the tribe to go back to NY,and enslaved the ones they could catch that didn't leave or that came back.

You evidently don't know shit about the Eastern tribes. Ever heard of Roanoke Island and the Lost Colony?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-25   23:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#29)

British paying the Tuscarora traditional enemies to help them deal with their problem.

Sounds like something I just posted. Intertribal war...

rlk  posted on  2018-01-26   0:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#18)

Yeah, why worry about tens of millions of Mexicans invading the US and siphoning taxpayer resources and bleeding us dry, drug warlord hits, stolen jobs, ilegally VOTING for Democrats, our national, state and local LE ignoring enforcing THE laws -- whether vehicular, fraud, B&E...

"Little Kids" -- whether Muzzie OR Mexican -- grow up, don't they?

You guys have inspired me. The other day I came up with a very fitting name for the far left --Dem-wits. After all the posts from you and the others on the far right, I've come up with an equally fitting name for you. The Extreme Right Republicans, or ERR's. The rest of us, including Trump & Co., are in the middle somewhere.

Anyhow the poor Mexicans kids are safe now and Trump got his wall and the government will not be shut down. Definitely a win-win-win deal put together by the master of deal-making. And BTW, if one of those little kids does grows up to be a hit-man for a drug gang as you fear, Trump has made it clear that they and any other Mexican-born murderers will immediately be deported back to Mexico.

Sometimes I think that it's only Trump (and his great team-members, especially Sarah) who are the sane ones, and it's the rest of Washington (and/or the rest of the world) who are the crazy ones.

interpreter  posted on  2018-01-26   7:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: rlk (#13)

Both of you are full of BS. First of all, there have been six flags over Texas, including the Mexican flag. And definitely not a Comanche flag.

Let me enlighten you non-Texans on exactly how Texas got here. First, before Stephen Austin got here, Texas was full of Mexicans and also a few indians but no not Comanches as far as I know. They were Caranchuas mostly, the worst kind. And after they killed you, they ate you. And they considered the white men that Stephen F Austin brought to be especially tasty. But there are no Caranchuas in Texas now because Austin's settlers killed them all. And the big historical marker that marks the spot where the last Caranchua was killed is only about 20 or 25 miles from my house where I was born. And the two cemetaries where all of the early Texas war heroes (who fought both the Indians and Santa Anna) are buried are also a few miles from my house.

Anyhow, when Stephen got permission from Santa Anna to bring English- speaking settlers into Texas, the only stipulation was, they had to Roman Catholics, otherwise they would be shot (because at that time, in Mexico and all Spanish colonies it was highly illegal to not be a Roman Catholic and all suspected heretics were either burnt at the stake or shot.

But in reality, Santa Anna got duped. Stephen, being an Episcopalian, brought in only Episcopalians and a whole bunch of them. And the first non- Catholic Church in Texas was founded, called Christ Church (also a few miles from my doorstep). And because the Episcopal Church Mass (or Eucharist) is so close to the Roman Catholic Mass, whenever Santa Anna would come around, he thought they were Roman Catholics and didn't shoot them. But to let the truth be known, I strongly suspect that 1 or 2 Presbyterians and/or Methodists snuck in illegally, making them the first illegal immigrants, not Mexicans (who were already here).

And there you have it. The history of Texas in a nutshell. We are here today because of us Episcopalians (and we had better weapons than Santa Anna when things turned ugly BTW).

interpreter  posted on  2018-01-26   9:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rlk (#30)

Sounds like something I just posted. Intertribal war...

I'm not so sure they considered it inter tribal war so much as the Summer Olympics,where the young bucks got a chance to prove their courage will capturing new wives to freshen up the tribal blood line.

From what I know,none of the tribes really practiced warfare as the white man understands and practices warfare. Which is why the white man kept kicking their asses. For the Indians it was sport. For the white man it was something to be taken as seriously as a heart attack and you didn't stop until the enemy was totally defeated.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-26   16:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: interpreter (#32)

Both of you are full of BS. First of all, there have been six flags over Texas, including the Mexican flag. And definitely not a Comanche flag.

I hate to break it to you Bubba,but Comanches didn't have flags and didn't need them. You knew who they were the instant you saw them.

Nor did they have any concept of a state. They went where they wanted to go when they wanted to go there.

Generally speaking,you are right,though. For all practical purposes,it was all Mexicans living in Texas,and a hell of a lot of them were in the Texas Army that fought Santa Anna because they wanted no more to do with the Mexican government than anyone else.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-26   16:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#33)

Sounds like something I just posted. Intertribal war...

I'm not so sure they considered it inter tribal war so much as the Summer Olympics,where the young bucks got a chance to prove their courage will capturing new wives to freshen up the tribal blood line.

What bunch of bull crap.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-26   22:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: rlk (#35)

What bunch of bull crap.

One of us is full of crap,and it isn't me.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-27   7:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#34)

I hate to break it to you Bubba,but Comanches didn't have flags and didn't need them.

Exactly. That's because most of them were uncivilized heathens-- and cannibals. (except for the few that the Roman Catholic Church managed to convert)

"Generally speaking,you are right,though. For all practical purposes,it was all Mexicans living in Texas,and a hell of a lot of them were in the Texas Army that fought Santa Anna because they wanted no more to do with the Mexican government than anyone else."

What rewritten-history book is that found in? As far as I know, not one Mexican fought against his own country. That's called treason.

Barry Midgett

interpreter  posted on  2018-01-27   15:28:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete (#36) (Edited)

What bunch of bull crap.

One of us is full of crap,and it isn't me.

Right. You're saying it's all right with other tribes when horney young bucks attack other tribes to take their women for genetic upgrade as a form romantic olympics and nobody gets killed, self protective, or angry about it. It's a a deminstration of adolesent bravery and reconized as good natured fun. If you expect me to believe that, one of us has a problem.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-27   16:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: interpreter (#37)

What rewritten-history book is that found in?

None. It was in the actual history books of Texas that were first written. There were even Mexicans fighting with the whites at the Alamo.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-27   19:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: rlk (#38)

Right. You're saying it's all right with other tribes when horney young bucks attack other tribes to take their women

No. I never once said that anywhere. You misunderstood what you read.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-27   19:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#40) (Edited)

Right. You're saying it's all right with other tribes when horney young bucks attack other tribes to take their women

No. I never once said that anywhere. You misunderstood what you read.

I'm not so sure they considered it inter tribal war so much as the Summer Olympics,where the young bucks got a chance to prove their courage will capturing new wives to freshen up the tribal blood line.

Quoted directy from your own post. Don't get so lost in your own fantasy about American Indian life that you lose track of what you said. I misunderstand very little. I just have a reluctance to repeat it with flowery obfuscation. Good night.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-27   20:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: rlk (#41)

I'm not so sure they considered it inter tribal war so much as the Summer Olympics,where the young bucks got a chance to prove their courage will capturing new wives to freshen up the tribal blood line.

Quoted directy from your own post.

Yes,it was. What part of the word definition of the word "capture" is it you are having trouble understanding?

What do YOU think it means,capture her heart with flowers? Kinda hard to do that right after you smacked her father in the head with a axe or stuck him with a knife,ain't it?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-27   23:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#42)

No need to thank me for listening to your bull crap. Virtue is its own reward.

rlk  posted on  2018-01-28   21:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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