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Health/Medical Title: Tom Petty died of accidental drug overdose, coroner and family say [opioids, fetanyl] The beloved musician's system showed traces of fentanyl, oxycodone, temazepam, alprazolam, citalopram, acetylfentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl, according to a statement from Jonathan Lucas, the chief medical examiner for the coroner's office. In a message posted on Facebook, Petty's wife and daughter confirmed he was taking a mix of drugs to treat health issues. "Unfortunately Tom's body suffered from many serious ailments including emphysema, knee problems and most significantly a fractured hip," his wife, Dana, and daughter, Adria Petty, said. . . . Poster Comment: I can't resist the followup story. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest "Unfortunately Tom's body suffered from many serious ailments including emphysema, knee problems and most significantly a fractured hip," I'd say most significantly drug addiction.
#2. To: misterwhite (#1) I'd say most significantly drug addiction. Whether addiction or not, it was *prescription* drugs that were involved. Maybe they should be outlawed. Regardless, I like Tom Petty. Made a number of good songs.
#3. To: Pinguinite (#2) Whether addiction or not, it was *prescription* drugs that were involved. For Tom Petty's family to declare "accidental," is a complete turn-about of personal responsibility. He knew and his family knew the risks of the narcotics he took; and perhaps it was on a daily basis. Totally disagree with you about your attempt of product differentiation concerning "prescription" vs. non-prescription narcotics. The signature of responsibility is the individual, his or herself.
#4. To: Pinguinite, Gatlin, GrandIsland, misterwhite, Big Pharma Druglords (#2) it was *prescription* drugs that were involved. Wouldn't that be bad for the Drug Lords stock portfolios? ![]() #5. To: Pinguinite (#2) Whether addiction or not, it was *prescription* drugs that were involved. Yeah. They got up and crawled down his throat. Accidentally.
#6. To: buckeroo (#3) For Tom Petty's family to declare "accidental," is a complete turn-about of personal responsibility. He knew and his family knew the risks of the narcotics he took; and perhaps it was on a daily basis. If you read the article, his hip problem had progressed to a very painful full break. Apparently, he was trying to kill the intense pain. This isn't a terribly unusual story of overdosing with legal meds due to intense pain. I feel kinda sorry for him. Clearly, his body was just falling apart in a number of ways.
#7. To: misterwhite (#5) Yeah. They got up and crawled down his throat. Accidentally. Hey, if cannabis can do that, who's to say prescription drugs are any less capable?
#8. To: hondo68 (#4) Prescription drugs allow the patient to leave the hospital and medicate at home. This is good for everyone. If some abuse this convenience, I'm certainly not going to blame the drug or the drug companies. Hell, they make the same amount of money no matter where the drug is consumed.
#9. To: Pinguinite (#7) Hey, if cannabis can do that, who's to say prescription drugs are any less capable? Well, we make an exception for cannabis since it cures cancer and blindness and warts and stuff.
#10. To: buckeroo (#3) For Tom Petty's family to declare "accidental," is a complete turn-about of personal responsibility. He knew and his family knew the risks of the narcotics he took; and perhaps it was on a daily basis. There is nothing in the claim it was "accidental" that denies responsibility. They likely did know the risks, and just as likely accept that responsibility and blame no one. I suspect they said it was "accidental" as opposed to "intentional", as in suicide. They are simply saying it was not a suicide. It was instead, "accidental".
Totally disagree with you about your attempt of product differentiation concerning "prescription" vs. non-prescription narcotics. The signature of responsibility is the individual, his or herself. We do indeed agree. You catch my point perfectly. I casted it at white to make that exact point.
#11. To: misterwhite (#9) Well, we make an exception for cannabis since it cures cancer and blindness and warts and stuff. We've (well not me) have already made an exception for cannabis. It's illegal and demonized with all the fury of a Catholic Bishop firing up warriors during the crusades. Cannabis is "evil", right? Satan planted it on the 8th day of creation?
#12. To: Tooconservative (#6) This isn't a terribly unusual story of overdosing with legal meds due to intense pain. I feel kinda sorry for him. I don't give a shit if the narcotics were prescribed by a medically authorized physician or the local street corner dealer. The personal responsibility for taking the shit falls on Tom Petty. And LQQKY here: he dead man acting irresponsibly to himself.
#13. To: Pinguinite (#11) Our society will get along just fine without "medical" marijuana, and we certainly don't need yet another legal recreational drug. If you think the pushback on marijuana is intense, what about the promotion of the drug?
#14. To: buckeroo (#12) The personal responsibility for taking the shit falls on Tom Petty. And LQQKY here: he dead man acting irresponsibly to himself. Well, if that floats yer boat, have at it. I have a little more sympathy for people suffering general failure and intense pain day-to-day. Sometimes their judgment is impaired by taking these painkillers and other drugs. And lots of people die everyday from overdoses very similar to this one.
#15. To: misterwhite (#13) Our society will get along just fine without "medical" marijuana ... blah, blah blah Then it isn't OUR society. It is a goddamned HELL-HOLE depriving people of their rights, liberties, freedoms and genuine dignity to perform responsible actions for themselves, family, friends and the community at large.
#16. To: Tooconservative (#14) I have a little more sympathy for people suffering general failure and intense pain day-to-day. Sometimes their judgment is impaired by taking these painkillers and other drugs. And lots of people die everyday from overdoses very similar to this one. A little more sympathy? Next you will advocating the US Government to extract my hard earned dollars in the form of "voluntary contributions" towards the same aim. It is called socialism that you advocate. You have no sympathy for those that work hard, earnestly and diligently towards ideal efforts in life that pursue objectives that benefit just about everyone. And, yeah ... I don't give a shit about irresponsible behaviour.
#17. To: buckeroo (#16) A little more sympathy? Next you will advocating the US Government to extract my hard earned dollars in the form of "voluntary contributions" towards the same aim. You should calm down. I was talking about Tom Petty and his regrettable but not uncommon overdose on opiates.
#18. To: Tooconservative (#17) I was talking about Tom Petty and his regrettable but not uncommon overdose on opiates. Then you admit, Petty committed suicide. Isn't that a irresponsible act toward oneself whether planned or otherwise?
#19. To: buckeroo (#15) Then it isn't OUR society. It is a goddamned HELL-HOLE depriving people of their rights, liberties, freedoms and genuine dignity to perform responsible actions for themselves, family, friends and the community at large. You shouldn't be insulting Belize like that. You are their guest after all. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria #20. To: Pinguinite (#2) Regardless, I like Tom Petty. Made a number of good songs. Me too. Great artist. I regret never seeing him perform.
#21. To: buckeroo (#18) Idiot suicide is on purpose not accidental.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#21) Of course. Petty had taken these narcotics for years. He is totally responsible for his own self-inflicted demise.
#23. To: buckeroo (#22) Accidents happen after all you were born.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#23) Aren't we sentient creatures capable of determining risk analysis as a matter of prevention as well as opportunities as a matter of innovation for all those around us besides ourselves?
#25. To: Tooconservative (#0) I liked his music, and feel sorry for those he left behind, but he killed himself. Fentanyl, and Oxy? come on man, may as well just got out a needle and spoon. THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it. #26. To: jeremiad (#25) I liked his music, and feel sorry for those he left behind, but he killed himself. That is too broad because it implies suicide. Many people "kill themselves" unintentionally due to bad decisions. That doesn't mean the committed suicide. How many of us "kill ourselves" by not going to see a doctor when we suspect something is wrong,and decide to just "put it off for a couple of days to see if it gets better"? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #27. To: jeremiad (#25) I liked his music, and feel sorry for those he left behind, but he killed himself. Fentanyl, and Oxy? come on man, may as well just got out a needle and spoon. Easy enough to say. We didn't have to walk a mile in Petty's shoes. With a fully broken hip. His body was simply falling apart. He undoubtedly had very intense pain. He made a mistake with meds, trying to get some relief.
#28. To: sneakypete (#26) Many people "kill themselves" unintentionally due to bad decisions. That's called NATURAL SELECTION, ClosetPete. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #29. To: buckeroo (#15) It is a goddamned HELL-HOLE depriving people of their rights, liberties, freedoms and genuine dignity to perform responsible actions for themselves, family, friends and the community at large. No, the HELL-HOLE are the laws forcing me, the taxpayer, to pay for the damage caused people exercising their rights, liberties and freedoms. Where are MY rights, MY liberties, and MY freedoms?
#30. To: hondo68 (#4) Tom Petty... taken by natural selection. Mother Nature WILL NEVER BE DISOBEYED. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #31. To: misterwhite (#29) Where are MY rights, MY liberties, and MY freedoms? Ba Ba Ba BuckHole is a Paultard. The definition of liberty to a Paultard is... having more rights than any other. They are the most right protected suckholes, they know. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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