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Title: No One Cares If You (Cops) Go Home Safe At The End Of Your Shift
Source: The Sacred Cow Slaughterhouse
URL Source: http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/index.php?itemid=441
Published: Jan 2, 2018
Author: Michael Z. Williamson
Post Date: 2018-01-03 17:41:53 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4282
Comments: 52

Here at the house, I have a couple of decades plus of military experience.  I have tools to dig in or out of natural disasters.  I have extinguishers and hoses. I have a field trauma kit and bandages. I have weapons both melee and firearm. I know how to use them. I know how to trench, support and revet. 

I understand the fire triangle and appropriate approaches.  I understand breathing, bleeding and shock.  I know how to detain, restrain and control. I have done all of these at least occasionally, professionally. I've stood on top of a collapsing levee in a flood. I've fought a structure fire from inside so we could get everyone out before the fire department showed up, which only took two minutes, but people can die that fast. 

I've had structures collapse while I was working on them. I've been in an aircraft that had a "mechanical" on approach and had to be repaired in-flight before landing. I've helped control a brush fire.  I've hauled disabled vehicles out of ditches in sub-zero weather.

My ex wife has over a decade or service and some of the same training.

We have trained our young adult children.

My wife is a rancher who knows her way around a shotgun, livestock, sutures and tools, hurricanes and floods, and works in investigations professionally.

Our current houseguest is another veteran.

This means if anything happens at the house--and last year we had a lightning strike, a tornado and a flood within 10 days--we're pretty well prepared.

Now, we're probably better off than 95% of the households out there. The level of disaster that necessitates backup varies.

If we find it necessary to call 911, it means the party is in progress and it's bad.

You will probably not be going home safe at the end of your shift.

And you know what? If it gets to that point, I really don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if you get smoked.  I don't give a shit if you fall under a tree. I don't give a shit if you get shot at.

Because at that point, I've done everything I can with that same circumstance, and run out of resources.

If my concern was "you going home safe," then I'd just fucking hunker down and die. Because I wouldn't want that poor responder to endanger himself.

Except...that's what I pay taxes for, and that's what you signed up for. Just like I signed up to walk into a potential nuke war in Germany and hold off the Soviets, and did walk into the Middle East and prepare to take fire while keeping expensive equipment functioning so our shooters could keep shooting.

There's not a single set of orders I got that said my primary job was to "Come home safe." They said it was to "support the mission" or "complete the objective." Coming home safe was the ideal outcome, but entirely secondary to "supporting" or "completing." Nor, once that started, did I get a choice to quit. Once in, all in.

When that 80 year old lady smells smoke or hears a noise outside her first floor bedroom in the ghetto, she doesn't care if you go home safe, either. She's afraid she or the kids next door won't wake up in the morning.

If I call, I expect your ass to show up, sober, trained, professional. I expect you to wade in with me or in place of me, and drag a child out of a hole, or out from a burning room, or actually stand up and block bullets from hitting said child, because by the time you get there, I'll have already done all that. And there will be field dressings, chainsawed trees, buckets and empty brass scattered about.

I don't want to hear some drunk and confused guy squirming on the ground playing "Simon Says" terrified you so much you had to blow him away.  I don't want to hear that some random guy 35 yards away who you had no actual information on "may have reached toward his waist band. Or that "the tree might fall any moment" or that "the smoke makes it hard to see."

Near as I can tell, I don't hear the smokejumpers, or the firefighters, or the disaster rescue people say such things.

But it's all I ever hear from the cops. If you and your five girlfriends in body armor, with rifles, are that terrified of actually risking your life for the theoretically dangerous job you volunteered for and can quit any time, then please do quit. 

You can get a job doing pest control and go home safe every night.

Until a bunch of fucking pussies with big tattoos, small dicks, body armor and guns blow you away for minding your own business.

Because what you're telling me with that statement is, your only concern is cashing a check. That's fine.  But if that's your concern, don't pretend you're serving the public.  If you wanted to help people at risk of life, you would be a firefighter, running into buildings, dragging people out, getting scorched regularly.

If you're cool with writing tickets, then there's jobs where you can do just that.

If you want to tangle with bad guys and blow them away, fair enough.  But understand: That means they get to shoot first to prove their intent, just as happens with the military these days. Our ROE these days are usually "only if fired upon and no civilians are at risk."

If your plan is "shoot first, shoot later, shoot some more, then if anyone is still alive try to ask questions," and bleat, "But I was afeard fer mah lahf!" you're absolutely no better than the thugs you claim to oppose. All you are is another combatant in a turf war I don't care about.

Since I know your primary concern is "being safe," then I'll do you the favor of not calling. Cash your welfare check, and try not to shoot me at a "courtesy" sobriety checkpoint for twitching my eye "in a way that suggested range estimation."

If you're one of the vanishingly few cops who isn't like that, then what the hell are you doing about it?  If there's going to be a lawsuit costing the city millions, isn't it better that it be a labor suit from the union over the clown you fired, than a wrongful death suit over the poor bastard the clown shot? Both are expensive, but one has a dead victim you enabled. So how much do you actually care about that life?

How is the training so bad that it's not clear who is the scene commander who gives the orders?

How is it that trigger happy bozos who, out of costume, look no different from the gangbangers you claim to oppose, get sent up front to fulfill their wish of hosing someone down because "I was afraid for my life!"?

Why does the rot exist in your department?

If you can't do anything about it, why are you still in that department?

At some point, collective guilt is a thing.

You've probably not been a good cop for a long time.

And I still don't care if you go home safe. I care that everyone you purport to "serve and protect" goes home safe.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

He sets the matter straight!

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-03   18:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard, Officer Safety Canaries (#0)

I expect your ass to show up, sober, trained, professional. I expect you to wade in with me or in place of me, and drag a child out of a hole, or out from a burning room, or actually stand up and block bullets from hitting said child

a bunch of fucking pussies with big tattoos, small dicks, body armor and guns

BUt, but.... Officer Safety!

The Canary PD "heroes".

Hondo68  posted on  2018-01-03   18:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

No One Cares If You (Cops) Go Home Safe At The End Of Your Shift
Ah, but there are those who deeply cared that many cops did not go home safe at the end of their shift.

Nearly a quarter million people visit The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial annually where a number of commemorative ceremonies are held. The Memorial’s beauty and tranquility make it a special place for contemplation and reflection on the memories of valiant officers who gave up their life in the line of duty.

The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial is centered in the 400 block of E Street, NW, Washington, DC and is the nation’s monument to law enforcement officers who have died in the line of duty. Dedicated on October 15, 1991, the Memorial honors federal, state and local law enforcement officers who have made the ultimate sacrifice for the safety and protection of our nation and its people.

The Memorial features two curving, 304-foot-long blue-gray marble walls. Carved on these walls are the names of more than 21,000 officers who have been killed in the line of duty throughout U.S. history, dating back to the first known death in 1791. Unlike many other memorials in Washington, DC, the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial is ever-changing: new names of fallen officers are added to the monument each spring, in conjunction with National Police Week.

Designed by architect Davis Buckley, the Memorial sits on three acres of federal park land in an area of Washington, DC called Judiciary Square, the historic seat of our nation’s judicial branch of government. The Memorial grounds boast plush carpets of grass, nearly 60,000 plants and 128 trees. Each April, more than 10,000 daffodils bloom at the site, providing a burst of color for visitors. The Memorial’s central plaza features an intricate paving pattern and a bronze medallion with the Memorial Fund logo: a blue shield with a red rose draped across it.

Bordering the Memorial’s beautifully landscaped park are the two tree-lined "pathways of remembrance" where the names of the fallen officers are engraved. Each of the pathway entrances is adorned with a powerful statuary grouping of an adult lion protecting its cubs. Sculpted by Raymond Kaskey, the bronze statues symbolize the protective role of law enforcement officers and convey the strength, courage and valor that are hallmarks of those who serve and protect.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-03   20:23:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#0)

The title is pretty stupid. Why wouldn't you want police officers to go home safely after their shift?

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-03   20:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#1)

He [Michael Z. Williamson] sets the matter straight [when he said “no one cares if you (Cops) go home safe at the end of your shift”].
Nah, Pinguinite, you are grossly wrong....Williamson did NOT set the matter straight.

It was Ruben Vives, Brittny Mejia, Richard Winton and Soumya Karlamangla who set the matter straight when they reported from Palm Springs on the tragic death of two police officers, one was a new mom and the other a 35-year-veteran two months from retirement as Palm Springs deeply mourned the loss of the first officers killed on duty since 1962. There were people who deeply cared that these cops did not go home safe at the end of their shift.

Lesley Zerebny returned to work early to help out after giving birth to her daughter, now 4 months old. She’d been an officer with the city’s Police Department for just 1½ years.

Officer Jose “Gil" Vega had submitted his paperwork to retire in December after a 35-year career with the department. Vega, the father of eight children, wasn’t scheduled to work Saturday but had picked up an overtime shift.

Zerebny, 27, and Vega, 63, were killed Saturday in a shooting that has drawn an outpouring of support from this desert community and shaken a small Police Department that hadn’t lost an officer in the line of duty in more than five decades. The gunman was arrested early Sunday.

Palm Springs Police Chief Bryan Reyes’ voice quavered at a news conference hours later as he described watching Zerebny’s husband, a Riverside County sheriff's deputy, say goodbye to his wife.

“To see her lying there with her eyes open, and to witness her husband, in full Riverside sheriff's uniform, kiss her on the forehead for the last time, it's tough," Reyes said.

Many questions about the incident that led to the officers’ deaths remain unanswered.

Police responded to a domestic disturbance call shortly after noon at the suspect’s home in the 2700 block of Cypress Road, and called for backup just 10 minutes later, Reyes said. Zerebny and Vega were killed and another officer was wounded, but he is expected to recover, authorities said.

The shooting suspect, John Felix, remained in the home until early Sunday morning, when officers used chemical agents to coax him out, said Riverside County Sheriff’s Chief Deputy Ray Wood.

"When he emerged, he was wearing soft body armor and he had a number of high- capacity magazines on his person,” Wood said. Felix was not armed.

Felix, 26, was arrested and is expected to be charged with two counts of first degree murder with the special circumstances of multiple murder and murder of a police officer in the line of duty, authorities said. Riverside County Dist. Atty. Michael Hestrin said his office would decide whether to pursue the death penalty against Felix.

“I consider the brutal murder of a police officer to be a very heinous crime, so I will leave it at that,” he said.

Reyes, who became police chief in February and oversees a department of 98 sworn officers, seemed to speak for the entire community when he talked about the loss of his officers.

“I’m awake in a nightmare right now,” said a shaken Reyes just hours after the shooting. “If there’s ever a time to pray for Palm Springs PD, it’s now.”

Asked how the families of the victims were holding up, the chief said, “that’s a tough question. Everybody has their moment. Some are strong one second, some are broken the next.”

Reyes described Zerebny as “a wonderful, young, dedicated female officer that pressed forward every day to make it better for everybody else.”

“She gave her all,” he said.

Reyes said that Vega chose to continue working even when he’d done so for 30 years, the time when many cops retire. This year, the department needed a training officer and he stepped up, Reyes said.

“Here he is 35 years in, still pushing a patrol car for our community to make it better,” Reyes said.

When officers responded to the incident that would turn fatal on Saturday, Vega was the first one at the door, Reyes said.

Felix, the man suspected of shooting the three officers, has a history of violence, records show.

Felix was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon after an initial charge of attempted murder in 2009. Prosecutors at the time accused him of being a member of a criminal gang. He was sentenced to two years in prison. In 2013, he was accused of resisting arrest with Palm Springs police on the same street where Saturday’s shooting occurred. He pleaded guilty to a count of malicious noise.

Officials said the Palm Springs Police Department has turned the shooting investigation over to the Riverside County Sheriff's Department.

Outside the Police Department, people stopped by to add to the growing tribute of flowers, American flags and candles left for the fallen officers. Among them was Mike Donovan, a retired officer who’d worked with Vega.

“I can’t think of a better cop,” Donovan said. He described Vega as the kind of officer who "always thought of others before himself," especially in emergency situations.

He said that officers try not to think about the risk that’s a part of their jobs.

“You don't let it occupy your mind as you're working, but you try to prepare yourself for it and your loved ones and when it does happen, we all come together."

Palm Springs residents heard gunfire that resulted in three officers being shot, two of them fatally. He remarked on how long it had been since the department had lost an officer. Officer Gale Gene Eldridge was killed in the line of duty in January 1961, and Officer Lyle Wayne Larrabee was killed in January 1962.

Near the makeshift memorial, two men held up signs to passing motorists that read, "Law Enforcement Lives Matter."

Police chaplains waited outside the department, preparing to speak with officers about their fallen colleagues. Steve Ballinger, lead chaplain for Riverside police, said he was among those who were asked to help.

"Our hearts are broken," he said. "This is happening way too much. I've been doing this for years. And it never gets easier.”

"There's no words that I'm going to be able to share with them that's going to take away their pain and their hurt,” Ballinger said. “But it's that presence just to let them know they're not in it alone."

Gov. Jerry Brown issued a statement, saying that the officers were killed “doing what they do every day — protecting their community."

"We grieve with the family members, friends and fellow officers coping with this senseless tragedy," Brown said. "Anne and I join all Californians in offering our heartfelt condolences.”

On Sunday evening, hundreds of community members gathered for a candlelight vigil outside the Palm Springs Police Department.

Some wore T-shirts that read "In Honor of Gil Vega End of Watch October 8, 2016" and included a photo of the officer. One woman wore a shirt that said "Back the Blue."

On one side of the podium was a photo of Vega, on the other a photo of Zerebny — both of them smiling. Nearby balloons bore the words "RIP Gil" and "RIP Lesley."

At 5 p.m., attendees bowed their heads as they listened to the invocation of prayer to start the vigil. Chief Reyes spoke afterward.

"Very difficult times for us all. It goes without saying," he said. "I was broke this morning ... But I'm healing. I'm healing now because of what I see out here ... It's this community outreach that's going to get us through it."

So, on the contrary, Pinguinite....Williamson [a science fiction and military fiction author who was born in Birkenhead, England, who with his family emigrated to Canada and then the United States in 1978] did not “set the matter straight” when he said that “no one cares if you (Cops) go home safe at the end of your shift”.

Williamson for reasons unknown....LIED....when he said that “no one cares if you (Cops) go home safe at the end of your shift”.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-03   21:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

If we find it necessary to call 911, it means the party is in progress and it's bad.
That’s really cute.

Saying what he did here after the story he [Williamson] told with all the blustering bravado and the gross pretense under his swaggering bravery....the stupid asshole admits it may be necessary to call 911 for police help.

All you cop-haters are alike in the end ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-03   21:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Why wouldn't you want police officers to go home safely after their shift?

Cuz lots of them are a-holes, as you know.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-01-03   22:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tater (#6)

All you cop-haters are alike in the end ...

Your attempt at over generalization places you into lala land.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-01-03   23:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

No One Cares If You (Cops) Go Home Safe At The End Of Your Shift

Here is a sad and tragic story where yet another cop did not go home safe at the end of his shift.

There were tears, laughter and ovations as speakers shared stories at an emotional funeral service for the decorated 27-year-old Navajo police officer ...

Yes, Williamson and Deckard, many do care ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   0:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin (#6)

All you cop-haters are alike in the end ...

All of us here including the author of this article just want cops to do their jobs properly and be held accountable when they kill innocent people and pets.

You on the other hand want us all to lick their boots.

No thanks - being a submissive slave with a deep-seated authority fetish is not in my wheelhouse.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   5:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#10)

All of us here including the author of this article just want cops to do their jobs

Actually, if you look at his FB page (he has more than one) you will see constant cop hatred. This "author" has a mental problem.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-04   7:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#10)

... is not in my wheelhouse.
As a student of human nature and therefore understanding the ways of thinking, acting, and reacting that are common to “most all” human beings, I have long been very fascinated with and most skeptical as to exactly “what is in your wheelhouse.”

This came of the notion that your brain was far too subjectively aligned thus making reality to you most difficult, if not virtually impossible, to accept.

A human brain is normally wired for compassion, for remorse and for a kind of empathic reaction that causes someone who inflicts hurt to feel the degree of suffering that is not unlike the intensity as what the victim is experiencing.

While I cannot understand your burning ingrained desire to constantly inflict morbid evil happenings upon people, I do realize that it must not an easy thing for you to do.

For you to have become the person you are now, you obviously had to constantly overcome a lot of powerful neutral wiring to act the way you do.

Such a thing as a normal life really must be a bitch for you to understand and impossible for you to try to live...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   7:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#10) (Edited)

All of us here ...
Specifically, who are the “all of us here” about whom you speak?

I can only count you and two others....and that is far too small a gathering for you to refer to yourselves as “all of us here.”

You do need to get real and stop with your overly exuberant use of gross generalizations.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   7:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#13)

All of us here ...

The truth is, "all of us here" is all the DRUG ADDICT LOVING AGENDA posters that post here because they've been eradicated from all other chit chat channels... maybe 5-10 posters maximum.

But that's part of DickTards yella propaganda... he knows the assholes scream the loudest, and he confuses the loudest as the most. The loud assholes have certainly left LP and now this forum as insignificant as a on-line forum.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-04   8:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#10) (Edited)

... want cops to do their jobs properly ...

And that they do the jobs properly 99 percent of the time....it will never be 100 percent. It is the one percent that you are obsessing over and continually get your panties all wadded up in your crouch about.

Given the wrong circumstances, even the good cops often get caught up in some very bad happenings. When actions boils down to unethical behavior, the good cops don’t tend to go right off the deep end. Rather, sometimes the mind plays tricks on them, pushing them down the slippery slope of questionable behavior. And when that happens, as it does, then justice must be called upon to prevail....and it is.

A fitting quote here would be one by C.S. Lewis when he said:

Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.
Probably the most revealing thing about ethical violations is the simple and almost mundane conditions that always contribute to them. Thankfully, a small amount of knowledge will go a very long way in reducing environments that contribute to this behavior. Keep the God Damned dogs locked up or securely chained when cops are around and most importantly, don’t perform any actions where cops need to be called.

... and be held accountable when they kill innocent people and pets.
They are and will continue to be. Just because you are “mind swayed” by some yellow journalism articles that are biased with incomplete factual information...you disagreement with the verdicts is of no consequence to anyone but yourself.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   8:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GrandIsland (#11)

Actually, if you look at his FB page (he has more than one) you will see constant cop hatred

What you and the other badge-lickers perceive as hatred is most likely well-founded criticism.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   8:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GrandIsland (#14)

All of us here ...

The truth is, "all of us here" is all the DRUG ADDICT LOVING AGENDA posters that post here because they've been eradicated from all other chit chat channels... maybe 5-10 posters maximum. But that's part of DickTards yella propaganda... he knows the assholes scream the loudest, and he confuses the loudest as the most. The loud assholes have certainly left LP and now this forum as insignificant as a on-line forum.

And the further truth is that it is quite amusing to read their hilariously ignorant posts void of any sane and logical reasoning....and subjecting them to contemptuous and dismissive language for their asinine behavior.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   8:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#17)

DRUG ADDICT LOVING AGENDA posters

You two clowns are an absolute RIOT!!

The articles I post here are informative and have the added effect of making the statist boot-lickers show their hideous colors.

hilariously ignorant posts void of any sane and logical reasoning

Don't be so hard on yourself Parsons - just keep trying to become relevant, maybe someday you'll make it.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   8:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard, GrendIsland (#16)

... is most likely well-founded criticism.
NO....NO...NO.

The radical behavior you fanatical cop-haters show with your critical zeal and obsessive enthusiasm can never in any way be considered to be “well-founded criticism.”

“You may be a fanatic when” you are so sure that your views are the truth and you continually see those who hold different views as “boot-lickers.”

An obsessed form of fanaticism can at times be over the top and potentially dangerous. When you become overly involved to a degree that is so excessive.... it pushes other ideas or activities out of the way.

Fanaticism does entail a lack of mental balance in a person's life and thoughts.... you, Deckard, are definitely at that point.

Lighten up ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   9:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#19)

The radical behavior you fanatical cop-haters

Get bent - I don't "hate" all cops.

The fact is that even the good ones who do nothing to expose the bad ones are just as culpable.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   9:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Deckard (#18)

The articles I post here are ...
The articles you post here are mostly biased hit pieces founded on a tissue of lies and laced with strong emotional manipulation and outraged view points.

The intent is obviously to sway public opinion by presenting false or biased information in a way that appears objective and truthful.

You are acting a messenger for the pure evil when you post such articles ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   9:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin (#19)

DickTard...

is most likely well-founded criticism

Well founded criticism... just like this guy would claim on Facebook...

"Nearly two weeks earlier, Riehl said he was a libertarian candidate for the Douglas County Sheriff’s position in a YouTube video, which was titled, “Fire Sheriff Spurlock.” In the clip he claimed Deputy Brian Briggs was a “pimp.”

Riehl was a veteran who did a tour of Iraq in 2009 until 2010. He was honorably discharged two years later."

Riehl shot a 5 officers and killed one, last week, in an ambush. An FBI profile would match (to a T) him to Decktard, Hondope and a few others here.

Riehl stated on YouTube that he just hated "bad cops".

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-04   9:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deckard (#20) (Edited)

I don't "hate" all cops.

You're a drug addict loving, cop hating douche bag anarchist. Your post history here exposes that. Your presence here is an AGENDA.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-04   9:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Gatlin (#21)

The intent is obviously to sway public opinion

Is your opinion being swayed Parsons?

Is FireIslands?

Is anyone's?

The answer is no - so shut you gaping cake-hole and stop trying to make this site into an echo chamber where cop-worship rules the day.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   9:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GrandIsland (#23)

You really need to seek help for your uncontrollable rage. May I suggest an anger management session with a competent psychologist?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   9:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Deckard (#20)

Get bent - I don't "hate" all cops.

Get real – your posting activities indicate that you do severly hate all cops.

“Perception is reality.”

I must go now and I will leave you with this thought as I go ...

Common sense should urge you to consider the powerful native virtue of giving abundant welcome to truth in every practice and activity of your miserable life. Your ignorance along with its prejudices is the biggest foe to truth for you. While the internal warfare you cannot muster to wage against your ignorance leaves you to remain a troubled and misguided individual.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   9:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#25)

May I suggest

Only in person, if you had the balls. Otherwise, piss off.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-01-04   9:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#26)

virtue of giving abundant welcome to truth

Yeah - you should try that Parsons instead of your abhorrent and tenuous ignoring of facts and quoting hedonistic baby-killers as fonts of wisdom.

Of course you can't do that because in your world, War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   9:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Tsk tsk, what a disgustingly foul and fetid little man you are.

Really man - your insanity is becoming more apparent by the day.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   9:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#24) (Edited)

The intent is obviously to sway public opinion

Is your opinion being swayed Parsons?

Hell yea, it has been....absolutely.

I once had the opinion that you were a somewhat bright young fellow with a restricted degree of intelligence. But that was long, long, ago before the “hate worms” started eating away at your brain and caused you to become - well, you know the type....pinched up face, dark piercing eyes, and a mouth that is always fixed in a scowl - as you make your daily appearances on the forum spreading daily misery articles.

But now, my opinion of you has been swayed and is much lower ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   12:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#28)

... quoting hedonistic baby-killers as fonts of wisdom.
You once so proudly pointed out to me that “truth is truth no matter wherever you find it.”

Apparently you have selectively forgotten the true meaning of your own words.

But then, that’s quite understandable....since you either forget or choose to ignore so many things.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   12:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin (#31)

The sources I quote are legit - I don't use quotes from hedonistic baby-killers and make the absurd claim that they are pearls of wisdom.

I think I've humiliated you enough on this thread.

I kinda feel sorry for you.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-01-04   12:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard (#32)

Many of the sources you use are fixed with yellow journalism and at times even fake news. All of which comes from a mix of cynical quasi-political operators and business opportunists who have blanked the internet with yellow journalism articles and falsely generated news stories.

They concentrate and solely focus on you “clicking” with your pre-conceived biases. You simply have become addicted to the style of reporting that emphasizes sensationalism over facts. This is no criticism of you....it is just a recognizable truthism.

The sources I quote are legit ...
Ha ha! You better stick with “goldilocks and the three bears.”

That story has more legitimacy in one word that you can find in a entire series of your posted articles.

I think I've humiliated you enough on this thread.

I kinda feel sorry for you.

Oh yessa sir massa'iz gon be thankin’ you fo dat. You are indeed so very kind and considerate to me. I am much obliged and deeply appreciate your wonderful heartfelt kindness.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-01-04   13:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard (#0)

This is a pretty good essay.

Since when does anyone, let alone public safety employees, have a right to go home safely? No one else gets that guarantee.

If you're so insecure and easily frightened, don't become a cop or a fireman or a soldier. Those are jobs for men.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-07   2:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pinguinite, hondo68 (#1)

A related item from AoS a day ago:

Wichita cop responding to 911 suicide call accidentally shoots 9-year-old girl in the forehead
Because he was shooting at the family dog....

You cannot make this shit up.

All of you staunch defenders of police actions such as this, remind me why the life of a police officer is more important than the lives of those he is supposed to protect and serve? And why they seem to shoot at dogs at an alarming rate? And why he couldn't have used his baton or mace or taser or just...you know...dealt with the dog the way postmen and normal people do all the time.

Oh, never mind. I didn't see combat in Afghanistan, so I am not qualified to comment on this event.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-07   2:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#4)

The title is pretty stupid. Why wouldn't you want police officers to go home safely after their shift?

Saying you don't care if they go home safe is not the same as saying you don't want them to go home safe.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-07   10:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Pinguinite (#36)

Saying you don't care if they go home safe is not the same as saying you don't want them to go home safe.

Yes it isn't 10 on the cop hate scale it is an 8 or 9.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-07   10:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Pinguinite (#36)

Furthermore. If someone doesn't care if officers don't come home. That means they are ok with police being murdered.

I was anti police for a while. They beat the crap out of me about 5 years ago.

So I still have an open ear to police abuses. It goes on way to much. However a lot of stuff posted here that is anti cop is over the top and lies.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-07   10:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#38)

Did you read the article? The point of it is that people who choose to be in the police force are *no more special* than anyone else, and the author claims to have placed his own life in danger for others without claiming any special privilege for doing so.

And if anyone wearing a police uniform is more concerned about their own safety than the safety of the people he's supposed to protect, then they shouldn't bother to respond to 911 calls.

It's a very valid point.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-07   11:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Pinguinite (#39)

People who decide to out their life on the line so we can have law and order and justice are actually a little special.

We actually do need police. Someone has to do it. They do put their lives on the line. So when they make a mistake it should be looked at in that light. If police make honest human errors they should get a bit of special treatment. Not a blank check but an honest assessment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-07   11:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Pinguinite (#39)

Every person will naturally be worried about their safety over someone else's. It is hard wired in and just common sense.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-07   11:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#41)

Every person will naturally be worried about their safety over someone else's. It is hard wired in and just common sense.

To the point where:

I don't want to hear some drunk and confused guy squirming on the ground playing "Simon Says" terrified you so much you had to blow him away. I don't want to hear that some random guy 35 yards away who you had no actual information on "may have reached toward his waist band.

The "Simon Says" reference is very easy to identify, and is probably the incident the author was really responding to.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-07   11:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Pinguinite (#42)

The Simon says cop is a murderer imo.

No I didn't read the entire article. Which is why I specified I didn't like the title.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-07   11:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#43)

No I didn't read the entire article.

Give the man a listen, and only after that judge. If you still think he's off base, fine.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-07   13:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Tooconservative, Pinguinite, A K A Stone, vigalante hero (#35)

This older gentleman lurking on LF at the internet cafe, is a real hero for shooting these robbers and not whining about them reaching for their waistbands.

Cost to the taxpayer, ZERO!

Hondo68  posted on  2018-01-07   13:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Tooconservative (#35)

The bullet fragmented on hitting the sidewalk and a piece hit a girl in the head. No serious injury thankfully.

I wonder what kind of bullet it was that would fragment. A hollow point?

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-01-07   14:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#39)

If anyone wearing a police uniform is more concerned about their own safety than the safety of the people he's supposed to protect, then they shouldn't bother to respond to 911 calls.

It's a very valid point.

Absolutely.

Responding to 911 may indeed mean laying it all out there.

"Stay safe out there!" doesn't mean, "Hide in your Crown Vic cruiser in your police vest until the mass-killer shooter has exhausted his thousand rounds."

The price society pays for a necessarily aggressive and ballsy LE is the occasional over-officious Rambo-wannabe. We don't like it, but it's always been that way.

And what kind of society wants a 5-3, 110 pound chick (whose natural inclination is nurturing) masquerading as as "law enforcement" or a "crime-deterrent"? What door is SHE gonna smash down when seconds count? For that matter, what door is any passive pussified mixed/confused-gender LE detail going to smash down?

Portandia PD:

(*ringing the doorbell aggressively...tapping on window*) "PARDON ME, SIR, MIZZZ...CAN YOU KINDLY NOT SHOOT SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS SCHOOL? DIDN'T YOU READ THE SIGN? IT'S A 'GUN-FREE' ZONE!! THANK YOU FOR LISTENING...PLEASE JUST KILL YOURSELF AFTER YOUR DONE. THAT WOULD MAKE THIS CONFRONTATION SO MUCH SIMPLER."

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-07   14:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: hondo68, Gatlin (#45)

Very nice job indeed by Gramps. He sure knew what to do with that pistol.

The two perps are probably now current the Mayor and Treasurer of the town. The "Hero"?? Probably sued by ACLU and SPLC. The former was oddly defended ad nauseam by Gatlin in the past.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-07   14:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68 (#45)

lurking on LF at the internet cafe

Lol

+1

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-07   14:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Liberator (#48)

Very nice job indeed by Gramps. He sure knew what to do with that pistol.

I liked how he kept trying to shoot them in the back as they flailed about, trying to flee. Gramps didn't give up but his quarry did escape.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-07   15:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Tooconservative (#50)

Yes, well, the sudden prey -- the thugs -- couldn't very well escape by peddling backwards.

Gramps did show mercy. By not finishing the job.

Liberator  posted on  2018-01-07   15:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Liberator (#51) (Edited)

Gramps definitely tried to kill them but was a lousy shot. He wasn't hitting them from less than 10' away. I did notice that he must have hit them because it says so at the beginning of the video. Maybe he was shooting a .22 or something.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-01-07   23:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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