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Title: No Exceptions
Source: Eric Peters Autos
URL Source: https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2017/12/21/no-exceptions/
Published: Dec 21, 2017
Author: Eric
Post Date: 2017-12-23 12:14:45 by Deckard
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Views: 778
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There’s a kerfuffle in Wisconsin over threatened application of The Law to the Amish.

Up to now, they’ve successfully dodged Uncle – been exempted on religious grounds from a great many busybody-isms, including laws requiring the presence and use of seat belts and child safety seats in all motor vehicles.

Their horse-drawn buggies lack motors, of course – as well as seatbelts and child seats.

They don’t have air bags or back-up cameras or tire pressure monitors, either. The Amish don’t believe such things are necessary and therefore do without.

They also believe it’s their decision, their business – and just want to go about their business, leave others alone and be left alone in turn. After all, they’re not harming anyone else. And if they harm themselves, the Amish take care of themselves.

It seems reasonable enough.

That doesn’t wash for the rest of us, though.

Why should it work for the Amish?Portrait of an armed busybody . . .

Such is the entirely logical argument of a busybody with a gun – i.e., a government worker – by the name of Bill Winch. He is a member of the Wisconsin Rapids Board of Supervisors and doesn’t think the Amish ought to be exempted from anything – including other laws requiring driver’s licenses and mandatory insurance.

He has proposed a new law precisely to that effect.


Winch goes further. The buggies of the Amish should also be fitted with automotive safety glass, windshield and side glass – no matter what it costs the Amish and how impractical it is to install such things in a horse-drawn buggy.

For their saaaaaaaaaaaaafety, of course.

Their horse-drawn buggies should also be required to have headlights and turn signals – just like everyone else’s car. If this requires expense, so be it. And new buggies manufactured after a certain date surely ought to be required to have at least driver and front seat passenger air bags and comply with some sort of government crash test regime.

Amish teenagers must not be allowed to “operate” a buggy until they have attained a certain Uncle-prescribed age – and then only when accompanied by an adult – and never accompanied by other teens, unsupervised.

It might cause some eyes to open.

Logically – as a matter of principle – either all of us and not just the Amish should be left in peace to go about our business or no one should be left in peace.

Why should the claim of the Amish that seatbelts and insurance and all the rest are meddling twaddle contrary to their beliefs carry any more weight than the belief – just as ardent and probably better-articulated – of the Libertarian who also believes that it’s no one else’s proper business whether he has or wears a seatbelt?

Winch is absolutely correct.

Or at least, he is a consistent authoritarian control freak.

The arguments used to justify everything imposed on the non-Amish apply just as much to the Amish. If these justifications are morally valid then the laws based upon them should brook no exceptions.


The Amish, no matter how pious, are not immune to the forces of nature. If an Amish buggy driver wrecks his buggy, he might be injured – just like anyone else. And if he is not buckled up – if his buggy lacks shatterproof automotive safety glass – his injuries could be more severe than would otherwise have been the case.

Undeniable facts of physics.

So why should the Amish – but not the rest of us – get a pass?

Why should they get to live a simple, unencumbered, exempted life? One free of not just government busybodyism but also the financial pressure of having to constantly earn money in order to pay for all that busybodyism? The Amish man can farm his land, raise his crops and not have to worry about coming up with thousands of dollars every year to pay for mandatory this and tax that – including Social Security and Obamacare taxes. Or air bags and seat belts and back-up cameras and shatterproof safety glass. He has no dealings with the DMV. 


This makes him a very free man.

Which is very unfair to the rest of us.

An outrage!

So perhaps this new law applying the law to the Amish is just the medicine needed.

Sympathy for the Amish might transfer to the rest of us. It might occur to some that it is unjust – tyrannical – to molest people who just want to be left alone and who aren’t causing harm to anyone else. It might get people to thinking about whether the justifications elaborated to push, promote and impose all the aforesaid busybody-ism are in fact legitimate.

And if they’re not . . . well, we might be able to roll some of this back. And for everyone.

The Amish are, indeed, throwbacks.

And not just because of their buggies and beards. They are living fossils of a species almost extinct: The Free Man. They’re not interested in your goods and don’t want to control your life. If you’re interested in their lifestyle, you’re free to emulate it and even to become Amish, if that is your desire.

In return, the Amish only ask that you leave them free to be Amish.

But that is too much to ask for people like Bill Winch.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

How do I become Amish?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2017-12-23   12:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

Fred - the process is not as easy as just signing up a the local grocery store to register as a Republican or a Democrat. There is quite a bit of involvement that is required.

Why do you ask?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-12-23   13:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

Being a half-breed I'm not sure if I can grow a beard.

I do have one of those straw hats though.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2017-12-23   13:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: Fred Mertz, Deckard (#1) (Edited)

Winch made a motion to vote on the ordinance Tuesday, but none of the other 18 members of the Wood County Board seconded his motion, and the issue died.


How do I become Amish?

You need to get a horse drawn vehicle...

Hondo68  posted on  2017-12-23   13:16:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

I do have one of those straw hats though.

Well .... you are a lot closer to your goal than just claiming to be a Republican chit-chatting on an obscure web board. The hypocrisy of some of these LF posters is seriously annoying.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-12-23   13:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

How do I become Amish?

Marry Kelly McGillis!

rlk  posted on  2017-12-23   13:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: All (#0)

Such is the entirely logical argument of a busybody with a gun – i.e., a government worker – by the name of Bill Winch. He is a member of the Wisconsin Rapids Board of Supervisors and doesn’t think the Amish ought to be exempted from anything – including other laws requiring driver’s licenses and mandatory insurance.

No, beware. The author is trying to lead you down a prime rose path with his “such is the entirely logical argument.” It HIS argument alone and he wants you to buy into his bullshit.

There is a bluntly obvious intent by the author to use this proposed action by Bill Winch for the sole purpose of bashing government. His biased agenda is strongly evidenced throughout the article but no more so than when he mislabels a member of a Board od Supervisors as a “government worker” while intentionally and erroneously....he creates a “non-existent government entity” to arouse hatred and inflame reader sentiments.

Bill Winch is no government worker. He is an elected official representing all the citizens of Wood County Wisconsin. And there is no such thing as the “Wisconsin Rapids Board of Supervisors. Wisconsin Rapids is a “city” located in Wood County Wisconsin and is not governed by a “Board of Supervisors.” The City of Wisconsin Rapids is governed by a ”Common Council” which is comprised of eight members who are elected by the voters in Wisconsin Rapids to represent them over a two- year term. William (Bill) Winch is a duly elected member of the Wood County Board of Supervisors. He represents District 9 and lives in the City of Wisconsin Rapids.

They [the Amish] also believe it’s their decision, their business – and just want to go about their business, leave others alone and be left alone in turn. After all, they’re not harming anyone else. And if they harm themselves, the Amish take care of themselves.

It seems reasonable enough.

It probably would not seem reasonable enough to the family of Amanda Mattern when the van she was riding in collided with an Amish mode of transportation that ran out onto a highway in rural Pennsylvania leaving the 37-year-old in a hospital bed in a coma.

As unusual as it may sound in this day and time....at places across America, an ancient Amish horse and buggy accident with a modern-day motor vehicle is not uncommon....where horses and covered black buggies are an every day sight and a severe challenge for traffic officials to safely manage. Eventually, if you live close by one of these Amish community, it is only a matter of time before you are going to have a close call with a horse and buggy.

Bill Winch is not a bad guy crusader who has set out to simply go after the Amish for no particular reason at all. He is rightly concerned about safety and that is one of the jobs the citizens of Wood County elected to do....watch out for their safety and protect the. And Bill Winch is not alone in his efforts. He is joined by many across the country in a common effort. One such concerned person is Jason McClune, Mattern’s brother and the transportation director for the Solanco School District in Quarryville, Pennsylvania.

McClune is one of a handful of traffic officials in states with high concentrations of Amish seeking legislation to reduce the risk of horse, buggy and motor vehicle mishaps, such as a minimum age for buggy drivers. Since his sister’s accident, he has been pushing state officials to consider new steps. In the past 18 months, two of the district’s buses have been involved in accidents with Amish vehicles - and McClune’s wife was involved in another collision with a horse-drawn vehicle, he said.
Transportation planners and engineers have long been aware of the safety problems and used a wide range of various techniques to improve and help prevent accidents between motorized vehicles and horse-drawn carriages who share common roads....this includes the widening of shoulders as well as adding some buggy paths and along with other efforts.

But that is not enough and more must be done since in Ohio and Pennsylvania there has been an average of 60 major crashes involving horses and buggies a year over the past decade.

They [the Amish] also believe it’s their decision, their business – and just want to go about their business, leave others alone and be left alone in turn. After all, they’re not harming anyone else. And if they harm themselves, the Amish take care of themselves.
Ah, but therein lies the fallacy whole thesis and negates the author’s entire radical anti-government point. There ARE harming other. Remember: in Ohio and Pennsylvania there has been an average of 60 major crashes involving horses and buggies a year over the past decade.

Deckard not too infrequently posts articles from this source and almost all are strongly anti-government biased as worded so they are not fare and balanced and only present partial facts in order to raise the sentiment. That of course sways some....while others see though the bullshit and ferret out the facts.

I leave you with this: Carefully consider what you read and definitely be extremely cautions of the source.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-12-23   18:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: rlk (#6)

How do I become Amish?

Marry Kelly McGillis!

No....that’s not true.

He will need to get a sex change in order to then marry Kelly McGillis.

'I'm a lesbian,' declares Top Gun siren Kelly McGillis

Not bad though for with Fred, a sex change may be a major improvement in his life....especially for his personality.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-12-23   18:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: Gatlin (#7)

Next, you will be telling us that Santa Claus is a child molester.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-12-23   18:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: Gatlin (#8)

How do I become Amish?

Marry Kelly McGillis!

No....that’s not true.

He will need to get a sex change in order to then marry Kelly McGillis.

'I'm a lesbian,' declares Top Gun siren Kelly McGillis

Not bad though for with Fred, a sex change may be a major improvement in his life....especially for his personality.

You're right. She was married twice to shallow playboys and mistreated. She turned her back on men and resorted to lesbianism. But when she portrayed an Amish woman in Witness she was a knockout. The last I heard she retired from movies and took over a bar and restaraunt in Florida. She's still a knockout. She, Katherine Ross, and Cate Capshaw will always be among my screen favorites.

rlk  posted on  2017-12-23   19:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: All (#7)

Eric published his article on December 21, 2017.

Had the asshole not been so Hell fire heated up about in jumping in to condemn the government, he could esaily have found the ordinance which he so strongly opposed actually had already failed to pass the day before, on December 20, 2017

New Amish Buggy Ordinance Fails in Wood County
So, maybe the ordinance would have helped and maybe it would not. But something definitely needs to be done to prevent accidents like these:
DECEMBER 14, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

EAU CLAIRE COUNTY, WI - The operator of an Amish buggy has been hospitalized after a collision with a semi truck in Eau Claire County Thursday. 

The Eau Claire County Sheriff’s Office said the truck was behind the buggy, and the driver was distracted while drinking an energy drink. 

He rear-ended the buggy while going 55 mph, destroying the buggy. The sheriff said the buggy operator's injuries were "significant."

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DECEMBER 14, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

PONTOTOC COUNTY, MS - No one was hurt when a vehicle clipped the wheel on an Amish buggy Thursday morning in Pontotoc County.

That's according to Sheriff Leo Mask, who says the accident happened around 7 a.m. or 7:30 a.m. on Highway 341 a couple of miles south of Highway 9.

Mask says two people were in the buggy.

Read More

DECEMBER 12, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash) 

WALNUT CREEK TWP, OH - A Sugarcreek man was injured when the horse-drawn buggy he was operating was struck by a pickup truck at the intersection of state Route 39 and County Road 114 on Dec. 2 at 11:08 p.m. 

John L. Erb, 66, Township Road 162, was transported from the scene by an East Holmes Fire & EMS Co. emergency squad to Pomerene Hospital in Millersburg. 

Read More

DECEMBER 12, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

WILLSHIRE, OH - An Amish family was injured Sunday evening when their horse-drawn buggy was struck by a van operated by a Wapakoneta man in western Van Wert County.

According to a spokesman for the Van Wert County Sheriff’s Office, a buggy driven by Marvin Schwartz, 28, of Decatur, Indiana, was traveling on state Route 49, north of state Route 81, at approximately 7:24 p.m. Sunday when it was struck by a vehicle driven by John Havill, 39, of Wapakoneta.

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DECEMBER 12, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

LISBON, NY - State Police said one man was taken to a Vermont hospital after a car collided with an Amish buggy on State Route 68 in the town of Lisbon Monday evening.

The crash was reported to be around 6 pm.

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DECEMBER 5, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

GRABILL, IN - A man riding in a horse and buggy was taken to a hospital in critical condition Tuesday morning after an SUV hit the buggy on Grabill Road in northeast Allen County.

The crash happened just after 7:30 a.m. near the intersection of Grabill Road and Page Road just west of Grabill.  That intersection is closed.

Read More

DECEMBER 4, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

AMANDA, OH - Authorities say a car collided with a horse-drawn Amish buggy in central Ohio, sending at least four people to the hospital.

Investigators say children were among those hurt when the vehicles collided after nightfall Sunday on state Route 159 in Fairfield County near the village of Amanda, roughly 25 miles (40 kilometers) southeast of Columbus.

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DECEMBER 4, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

CHILLICOTHE, OH - One person is dead and another critically injured following a crash on Route 32 in Pike County involving a horse and buggy on Sunday evening. 

According to the Chillicothe Post of the Ohio State Highway Patrol, a call was received by the Jackson Dispatch Center at 6:05 p.m. on Sunday, December 3, after a horse-drawn carriage driven eastbound by Korie N. Swarey, 17, of Waverly, was struck in the rear by a 2014 Ford F550, driven by Cody T. Green, 23, of Colton, New York, who was traveling east on Route 32. 

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DECEMBER 1, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

LANCASTER, PA - Two people were injured after a van rear-ended their horse-and-buggy in a Paradise Township crash late Thursday.

The buggy was traveling on the edge of the road in the 3300 block of Lincoln Highway East (Route 30) when it was struck from behind by a van, according to Paradise Fire Company Chief Pat Cosgrove.

The two, 17-year-old males in the buggy were hospitalized with injuries that did not appear to be life-threatening, Cosgrove said.

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DECEMBER 1, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

STAPLES, MN - The 17-year-old boy who was driving a horse and buggy that was hit by a semi- truck in northern Todd County has died, the Minnesota State Patrol reported. 

David Miller of Staples was driving the horse and buggy west on Highway 210 between Hewitt and Staples on Thursday, Nov. 30. A semi-truck driven by Douglas Calkins, 60, of Deerwood, also was westbound and rear-ended the horse and buggy.

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NOVEMBER 29, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

OSWEGATCHIE, NY - An Amish man in his mid-20s is dead after a car collided with his buggy on Irish Settlement Road in the town of Oswegatchie late Wednesday afternoon.

St. Lawrence County Coroner Kevin Crosby said the man was pronounced dead at the scene.

State police investigators were still there as of late Wednesday night.

Read More

NOVEMBER 25, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

STRASBURG, PA - The 85-year old driver of a horse-drawn buggy has died after colliding with a pickup truck on a Pennsylvania roadway.

State police said Elam King died in the Friday morning crash in Lancaster County, about 65 miles (105 kilometers) west of Philadelphia.

Read More

NOVEMBER 23, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

VIROQUA, WIA woman was injured when the pickup truck she was riding in struck a horse-drawn buggy Wednesday afternoon south of Viroqua.

The Vernon County Sheriff's Office said around 5 p.m. a pickup driven by Michael L. Welsh, 59, of rural Readstown was headed south on Highway 27 in the Town of Franklin when it hit an Amish horse and buggy. Welsh said he didn't see the buggy before the crash.

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NOVEMBER 21, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

TOWN OF JEFFERSON, WI - A Viroqua man is accused of fleeing after striking an Amish buggy with his tanker truck Thursday afternoon in the Monroe County town of Jefferson.

Jacob Ketelsen, 29, was driving west on Hwy. 33 about 4:45 p.m. when he struck the buggy driven by Ruben Miller, 49, of Cashton, according to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Department. The injured horse was euthanized.

Read More

NOVEMBER 19, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

TOPEKA, IN -  Police say an 11-year-old boy was hit and killed by a vehicle in LaGrange County, according to our reporting partners at the Goshen News.

The driver was identified Monday as Eva Kurtz.

The LaGrange County Sheriff's Department says Kurtz was driving east on County Road 400 South, just west of County Road 700 around 6PM on Friday.

Read More

NOVEMBER 15, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash) 

MADOC, ONTARIO - A man has been charged following an investigation into a collision Monday between an Amish buggy and a pickup truck in Madoc, about 90 kilometres east of Peterborough.

The pickup collided with the buggy on Slab Street near Douglas Road, just east of Madoc, at about 5:30 p.m. Monday, flipping the buggy and ejecting the passengers, Central Hastings OPP said.

Read More

NOVEMBER 13, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

HARTLY, DELAWARE – The Delaware State Police is investigating a crash that occurred earlier this morning involving a horse and buggy, according Public Information Officer, Master Corporal Melissa Jaffe.

Jaffe said the incident occurred around 7:21 a.m. Monday, November 13, 2017 as a 25-year-old female from Hartly was operating a 2014 Chevrolet Equinox southbound on Pearsons Corner Road just South of Yoder Drive. A horse and buggy driven by a 51-year-old man from Dover was traveling directly in front of the Equinox and was subsequently struck in the rear. The horse fled the scene, however was located uninjured on a nearby farm.

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NOVEMBER 10, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

WEXFORD COUNTY, MI - A 9-year- old boy is taken to the hospital by medical helicopter after emergency crews say the Amish buggy he was riding in was involved in a crash Friday morning.

A first responder at the scene tells UpNorthLive.com a semi-tractor trailer swerved to miss the buggy but hit the horse causing the buggy to flip over, pinning the 9-year-old underneath.

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OCTOBER 29, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

SHERIDAN, MI - At least three children were killed and six other people were critically injured after a driver in a pickup truck slammed into a horse-drawn buggy early Sunday in central Michigan, officials said.

The crash took place around 8:34 a.m. in Sheridan, located about 45 miles northeast of Grand Rapids,  Fox 17 reported.

Michigan State Police told Fox 17 the pickup was traveling eastward when it struck the buggy and "demolished it."

Read More

OCTOBER 24, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

MARKESAN, WI -  Green Lake County authorities are looking for a dark colored or possibly green SUV that struck a horse drawn Amish buggy Saturday afternoon just before 5 p.m. It happened on Hilltop Road. The buggy had two occupants and they were attempting to turn right into a private driveway when they were struck from behind. The right front headlamp or fender of the SUV would be damaged from the collision. Anyone with information is asked to call the Green Lake County Crime Stoppers at 1-800-438-8436. You can also text GETTHEM at 847411. 

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OCTOBER 23, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

LIMA, OH - The investigation into two fatal crashes from last weekend are close to completion.

The first crash occurred Friday October 13 when a car being driven by Kyle Burnett turned into the path of an eastbound motorcycle being operated on State Route 81 by Joel Hauenstein, of Ada. Hauenstein passed away at Lima Memorial Hospital.

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OCTOBER 21, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

WEBSTER COUNTY, MO - According to the Missouri State Highway Patrol, a truck hit a buggy Saturday around 7:45 p.m.

Officers reported the crash occurred in the Westbound lanes of Highway 60 NN in Webster County.

Two people in the buggy refused treatment, officials said, and no one was transported for injuries.

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OCTOBER 18, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

SHIPSHEWANA, IN - A LaGrange County man was hospitalized and another was arrested after a crash in the county on Tuesday.

LaGrange County Sheriff’s deputies and medics were called just before 4 p.m. Tuesday in the 500 block of South 600 West, southeast of Shipshewana, on a report of a crash between a vehicle and a buggy.

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OCTOBER 10, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

OSWEGATCHIE, NY - St. Lawrence County sheriff’s deputies are requesting help with finding a car involved in a collision with an Amish buggy, which happened around 11:40 a.m. Monday on State Highway 184, near the Losurdo Cheese Plant.

The car, which may be a grey or silver Chevrolet Impala made in the last 10 years, drove west and has passenger-side damage.

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OCTOBER 9, 2017 - (Motorcycle-buggy Crash)

WEST SALEM, OH -  The Ohio Highway Patrol and Town & Country Fire Department along with Town & Country EMS responded to a Motorcycle versus Amish buggy accident around 7:15 p.m. Sunday night on State Route 301 between West Salem and I-71.

Bradley Perkins, 47, of West Salem was riding a 2006 Victory Kingpin Motorcycle Southbound on State Route 301 when he struck an Amish buggy in the rear causing his motorcycle to go off the left side of the highway.

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OCTOBER 6, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

WHITEFIELD, MAINE - A sport utility vehicle rear-ended a horse-and-buggy on East River Road in Whitefield on Wednesday morning, causing damage to both vehicles but no injuries.

George C. Bronn, 40, of Whitefield, was driving a 2007 Chevrolet SUV north on East River Road at the time of the incident, according to Lincoln County Sheriff’s Deputy Kevin Dennison. Henry Miller, 24, of Whitefield, was operating a horse and buggy north on East River Road in front of Bronn.

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OCTOBER 2, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

LAGRANGE COUNTY, IN - A Shipshewana man was arrested after police said he was drunk when he rear-ended a buggy on a LaGrange County roadway Saturday evening.

Police and medics were called around 6:40 p.m. Saturday to North C.R. 1000 West near Shipshewana on a report of a crash that involved a car and buggy. According to a LaGrange County Sheriff’s Department report, 21-year-old Kevin Eugene Miller was headed northbound in a gray Chevrolet Avalanche when he rear-ended a northbound buggy.

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SEPTEMBER 29, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

CAMERON, MO - Update on accident involving buggy on Highway D:

According to the Missouri Highway Patrol Crash Report, Thursday morning September 28, Glen Seger,53 of Hamilton was traveling Eastbound on Highway D when he stuck a horse drawn buggy from behind.

The buggy was being driven by Abraham Bontrager, 10, of Kidder. Also in the buggy were: Allen Bontrager 8; Susan Bontrager, 11, Jemina Miller, 13, Lydia Miller, 15, and Susie Miller, 11.

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SEPTEMBER 25, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

The bright yellow highway signs warning that horse- drawn buggies are sharing the road aren’t enough to prevent all accidents. With Amish communities expanding and automobile speeds increasing, collisions between cars and buggies are all too common.

For example, Delaware State Police are investigating the death of man and serious injuries to his wife following a hit and run crash on August 31, 2017. The Dover Post  reported that 55-year-old Ervin Miller was driving a horse-drawn buggy when he tried to turn left into a store. A car hit the buggy, throwing Miller and his 55-year-old wife onto the road.

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SEPTEMBER 24, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

SALT CREEK TOWNSHIP, OH - Five people were taken to area hospitals this morning when the buggy in which they were riding was struck by a car that had attempted to pass it on the crest of a hill in Holmes County.

According to the Ohio State Highway Patrol, Levi Wengerd, 29, of Millersburg, and his four passengers were northbound in the buggy on state Route 241, north of County Road 189 at 9:32 a.m. when a car driven by Tina D. Yutzy, 20, of Millerburg, attempted to pass in a no-passing zone.

Yutzy’s car swerved back into the northbound lane to avoid oncoming traffic in the southbound lane and struck the buggy.

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SEPTEMBER 21, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

Police reopened State Road 120 at State Road 5 Thursday afternoon after a horse buggy and truck crash.

That's just north of Shipshewana.

It appears the buggy was hit. A viewer said the buggy was destroyed.

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SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

Upper Leacock Township, PA - Four people were seriously injured when their buggy was hit from the rear by a car Monday morning in Upper Leacock Township.

The accident occurred at 9:52 a.m. on Snake Hill Road, just north of Windy Tor Road, according to East Lampeter police Lt. Rob Eachus.

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SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash) 

BROWN TOWNSHIP, PA - Two people are in the hospital after a truck crashed into a horse and buggy in Mifflin County.

It happened on Route 655 around 7 p.m. Sunday night

Police told us both passengers in the buggy were thrown out. One was taken to the hospital in Lewistown the other was flown to Altoona.

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SEPTEMBER 11, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

NEW WILMINGTON, PA - Three members of an Amish family whose buggy was hit in New Wilmington on Thursday night were treated at UPMC Jameson Hospital. 

According to the New Wilmington police Department report, Mary B. Shaffer, 71, of Greenville, told officers she was westbound on West Neshannock Avenue, New Wilmington, about 9 p.m. Thursday when she struck an Amish buggy as she turned onto South New Castle Street  She told officers she never saw the buggy until she struck it, did not observe flashing lights and that she had the green light.

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SEPTEMBER 1, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

HARTLY, DE - Delaware State Police are investigating the death of an Amish man and serious injuries to his wife following a hit and run crash near Hartly.

Delaware State Police spokesman Master Cpl. Gary Fournier said the crash took place at 8:05 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 31, at the corner of Halltown Road (Route 8) and Hartly Road.

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AUGUST 27, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

PINEGROVE TOWNSHIP, PA - Authorities are searching for a driver who crashed into an Amish buggy in Pinegrove Township on Sunday night.

It happened around 8:35 p.m. on State  Highway 157.

State police say a vehicle traveling east on the road crashed into an Amish buggy and then continued driving.

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AUGUST 26, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

HELENA, NY - Three people suffered minor injuries but a horse had to be euthanized after a car struck a horse- drawn piece of Amish farm equipment Friday.

Helena rescue crews and state police were the first to report to the scene of the crash, which occurred when a car eastbound on St. Lawrence County Route 37 rear-ended the horse-drawn rake and rolled into a ditch, according to Helena Rescue Chief Steve Wilson. None of the victims was taken to the hospital, though the two boys on the rake suffered “some scrapes and bruises” and were treated on site.

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AUGUST 22, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

EVERGREEN TWP, MI -  A Snover couple in their 70s were thrown from a horsedrawn buggy late Friday afternoon when police say a car driver failed to brake in time and struck the buggy.

The passenger of the buggy, 73-year-old Ida Troyer, was airlifted from the crash scene to a Saginaw County hospital, said Sanilac County Undersheriff Brad Roff.

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AUGUST 22, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

KNOX COUNTY, OH - A Fredericktown woman was in stable condition Tuesday morning and two other Amish residents were hospitalized after their buggy was rear-ended Monday night in Knox County.

Emma M. Yoder, 44, was flown to Ohio State University’s Wexner Medical Center with life-threatening injuries following the crash, according to the Mount Gilead post of the State Highway Patrol.

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AUGUST 21, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash) 

SANILAC COUNTY, MIThree people were hurt and a horse died from its injuries after a buggy crash in Sanilac County. 

It happened about 4:35 p.m. on Friday, Aug. 18 on Germania Road near Robinson Road in Evergreen Township.

Investigators said a one-horse buggy driven by 77- year-old Eli Troyer of Snover was heading southbound on Germania Road with his passenger, 73-year-old Ida Troyer, when a 2016 Chevy Malbu hit the rear of the buggy.

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AUGUST 21, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

HENDERSON TOWNSHIP, PA – One person was killed as a result of a crash involving two vehicles and a horse-drawn carriage Saturday in Huntingdon County, police said.

Police said the crash occurred at 4:54 a.m. along William Penn Highway in Henderson Township.

According to a police report, one vehicle was traveling west when it hit the rear end of the buggy. The vehicle then crossed over into the eastbound lane of traffic before exiting the roadway and going through the parking lot of a Kwik Fill convenience store.

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AUGUST 18, 2017 - (Motorcycle-buggy Crash)

ONTARIO, CANADA - The motorcyclist killed Thursday morning in a collision near Linwood has been identified as Paul Willfong, 31, of Perth County.

The motorcycle involved had been stolen in Perth County.

Speed is considered the main factor in the collision between the motorcycle and a horse-drawn buggy, but toxicology tests are being conducted, said Waterloo Regional Police spokesperson Cherri Greeno.

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AUGUST 17, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

FREMONT, IN — A Michigan teen was airlifted from the scene of a Wednesday evening crash and a Fremont man was arrested for allegedly operating while intoxicated.

At around 9:30 p.m., a car driven by Brady Duvendack, 22, rear ended a horse-drawn carriage on Ray Road, south of C.R. 750N. All four occupants of the carriage were ejected.

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AUGUST 15, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

Four people were taken to the hospital today after a van crashed into an Amish buggy.

It happened on Sandy Ridge Road in Belmont County. According to state highway patrol, a van rear-ended an Amish buggy after failing to notice it on the road. Those inside the van were not injured, but the four people inside the buggy were taken to the hospital with what officials say are non-life- threatening injuries. Residents hope drivers will pay more attention to the Amish when on the roads.

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AUGUST 14, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

LOOGOOTEE, IN - A Sunday night accident in northeastern Daviess County involving a car and a buggy sent one person to the hospital and set off a multiple-county search that led to the arrest of one man.

The Daviess County Sheriff's Department has not completed the report but says the accident happened at 7:50 p.m. Sunday at 6565 N. CR 1200E. Deputies, firefighters and an ambulance responded to the scene where a car had struck a buggy and left four people with injuries. The sheriff's activity report shows that three of those people were treated at the scene. The fourth was taken by ambulance to Jasper Memorial Hospital.

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AUGUST 3, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

WOOSTER, OH - Police in Ohio are searching for the driver who hit an Amish buggy, injuring a child and four others, before fleeing the scene.

Cleveland.com reports  the crash happened Wednesday night in Wayne County. The Ohio State Highway Patrol says the buggy was knocked off the side of the road into a ditch.

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AUGUST 2, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

ELMIRA, ONTARIO - Two horses became spooked and broke free from the buggy they were pulling in Elmira Wednesday afternoon, police say.

After breaking free, one horse was hit by a car. The other horse was hit by a pickup truck.

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AUGUST 2, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

WEST SALEM, OH - The State Highway Patrol is seeking the public’s help in finding the driver of what is believed to be a champagne-colored 2001 Honda Accord involved in a wreck with a horse-drawn buggy that caused at least one serious injury on Congress Road north of Ruff Road around 8 p.m. Wednesday.

Sgt. Todd Roberts said the buggy, carrying one adult and several children, was traveling southbound on state Route 539/Congress Road with the car behind it. The buggy was struck from behind, and the driver left the scene.

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JULY 31, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

LA RUE, OH - A 62-year-old La Rue woman died Sunday after a car crashed into her horse and buggy outside of La Rue, according to the Ohio Highway Patrol.

Amanda M. Hopkins, 21, of La Rue, was driving a 2010 Honda CR-V north on Winnemac Pike south of Allen Road about 5:30 p.m. Sunday when she hit a northbound horse and buggy driven by Mary D. Petescheim, 62, of La Rue, in the rear, according to a release from the patrol.

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JULY 30, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

BARRINGTON, NY - Yates County Sheriff's Deputies said they responded to a crash involving a car and a horse and buggy in the Town of Barrington around 4 p.m. on Saturday.

Deputies responded to State Route 14A near Ellis Road. The driver of the car was headed north when she struck the horse and buggy after it turned in front of her.

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JULY 25, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

LANCASTER, PA - Five people were taken to Lancaster General Hospital this morning following a crash involving a horse and buggy at Route 340 and Meetinghouse Road in Salisbury Township, according to state police.

All five of the injured individuals were riding in a buggy when their vehicle collided with a white Chevy Malibu at the intersection of Old Philadelphia Pike and Meetinghouse Road, said James Spencer, Public Relations Trooper for the state police.

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JULY 25, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

MINNEAPOLIS, MN  – Two people were injured Tuesday morning after an SUV rear-ended a horse buggy in central Minnesota, according to the Minnesota State Patrol.

Authorities responded to the crash at about 6:44 a.m. on Highway 27 at Mile Post 104 in Little Sauk Township, which is south of Long Prairie. Officers learned a 2017 Chevy Silverado and horse buggy were both heading westbound on Highway 27 when the SUV failed to yield for the slower moving buggy and rear-ended it.

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JULY 18, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

TOWN OF HANSEN, WI - Sheriff's officials say one person has died and two others have been injured in a collision between an Amish buggy and an SUV in Wood County.

Sheriff's Lt. Joe Zurfluh says the horse-drawn buggy was crossing Highway 73 near Vesper Monday night when it was struck by the SUV. Both people in the buggy were thrown out.

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JULY 16, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

TOWN OF DARLINGTON, WI - A Sunday crash between a pickup truck and an Amish buggy in rural Lafayette County injured seven people, sheriff Reg Gill said in a news release.

The crash happened on the 13000 block of Highway 81 outside of Darlington.

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JULY 11, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

ALLEN TOWNSHIP, MI — Officers with the Hillsdale County Sheriff’s Office responded to a one-vehicle collision with an Amish buggy at 11:35 p.m. Sunday.

Officers were dispatched to Jonesville Road near Thompson Road with a report of multiple injuries.

Harlin Miller, 64, of Quincy, and his passenger Janine Miller, 63, of Quincy, was eastbound on Jonesville Road when the horse jumped into the west bound lane and went through the Millers’ windshield.

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JULY 6, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

SHELBY, OH - Six people, including four children, riding in a horse-drawn buggy were ejected and injured in a crash on Ohio 47 in Shelby County Thursday.
Deputies and medics from six Shelby County fire departments were dispatched to Ohio 47 just west of the Logan-Shelby County Line around 10:15 a.m. Thursday on a reported crash involving a car and buggy. 

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JULY 3, 2017 - (Car-buggy Crash)

WESTBY, IL - Three people escaped serious injury in an accident on Sunday, June 25, in Westby, when an Amish horse and buggy traveling north on Main Street flipped after the horse was spooked by a southbound semi-tractor trailer causing the horse to bolt right, into a utility pole along the 300 block of Main Street.

Upon striking the utility pole in front of Premier Cooperative, the buggy flipped trapping three occupants inside, Marvin Schlabach, age 23; Ada Schlabach, age 23; and their 11-month-old daughter.

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Gatlin  posted on  2017-12-23   22:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: rlk (#10)

I've got Gatslime on bozo.

Can you do me a favor? Next time he posts, tell him to go fuck himself.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2017-12-23   22:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: Gatlin (#11)

Nice spam job, spam bot.

Hypocrite much?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-23   23:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#14. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

I've got Gatslime on bozo.

Can you do me a favor? Next time he posts, tell him to go fuck himself.

I would but it only encourages him to keep posting his pro-tyranny diatribes and long-winded screeds that champion more and bigger government.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-23   23:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: Gatlin, Deckard, Fred Mertz, authoritarian canary tyrants, tater (#11)

Winch made a motion to vote on the ordinance Tuesday, but none of the other 18 members of the Wood County Board seconded his motion, and the issue died.


I already posted the failure of the Winch motion in post #4, dumbass! libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=53928&Disp=4#C4

The rest of your post is spam crap. You sucked Obama's ass for 8 years, and now you're doing the same with Winch, Sessions & Trump.

Hondo68  posted on  2017-12-24   1:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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