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International News Title: "You Grow Up Wanting To Be Luke Skywalker, Then Realize You've Become A Stormtrooper For The Empire" Authored by US Army combat veteran Daniel Crimmins via Upriser.com, You grew up wanting so bad to be Luke Skywalker, but you realize that you were basically a Stormtrooper, a faceless, nameless rifleman, carrying a spear for empire, and you start to accept the startlingly obvious truth that these are people like you. Question: How do you Americans as a people walk around head held high, knowing that every few months your country is committing a 9/11 size atrocity to other people. Imagine if the 9/11 terror attacks were happening in America every few months. Again and again, innocent people dying all around you. Your brothers and sisters. For no reason. Daniel Crimmins from U.S. Army 3rd Infantry Division answered: Many of us are unable. Many of us watched 9/11, and accepted the government and medias definition of the attack as a act of war rather than a criminal action. A smaller portion, drifting along passively thought a major war was coming, that people we knew were going to fight and die. Some of us maybe worried about our younger brother being drafted, despite being in college. Now, it seems stupid, but in the 72 hours after 9/11, some Americans, maybe suffering from depression, certainly with a mind shaped by comic books and action movies, ate up the us vs. them good vs. evil rhetoric spouted by the cowboy in chief. After all, he was the president, and no matter how bright you might think yourself, you can still be swayed by passion and emotion, led to terrible decisions. Some of us, therefore, left our dorm rooms, and walked down Main Street to the recruiters office. Some of us were genuinely surprised the office wasnt full to bursting of young men eager to avenge their fallen countrymen. Some of us were genuinely surprised when we had to push the recruiter to stop trying to sell desk jobs and just let us join the damn Infantry. Image via Upriser.com Some of us got enlisted, then, and went down to Georgia, head high to mask the anxiety and fear they might have helped. Perhaps some number of Americans in this situation discovered that maybe it hadnt been the best idea, but would be goddamned if they were going to admit it, and let everyone back home smuggly remark on how right they were. So they persevere. They learn to work as a unit, to look past personality issues, to see each other as Soldiers rather than as a race, or economic status, or any of the other things people hate about each other. They learn to kill. Then some of these people, perhaps while sitting hungover in the platoon area in the Republic of Korea hear that we have invaded Iraq. They have Big Scary Bombs, and Saddam Hussein, the secular Arab dictator had somehow colluded with the devoutly religious Osama Bin Laden to attack the US. They hated our freedom, you see. Then some of these young American men might transfer back to Georgia and be assigned to the 3rd Infantry Division, and end up in Iraq in January of 2005. And maybe these kids, still drunk on Fox News and fantasies of glory and renown being enough to win their ex-girlfriends back, are excited to go to Iraq. Sure, we hadnt found any WMDs yet, and we had Hussein in custody, but they were still somehow a threat and had to be dragged kicking and screaming into Jeffersonian democracy. Inside every dirka is a good American, yearning to be free. So you fight. You kill. Watch friends die. Its usually quick, almost never quiet, but for the rest of your life, when you remember sitting at the bar with them, theyre blown open. You picture the nights you spent downtown at Scruffy Murphys, but instead of the stupid hookah shell necklace, your boys jaw is blown off, and his left eye is ruined, and hes screaming. You fight, you kill, you watch friends die, and you notice a distinct lack of change. You kick in doors and tell terrified women to sit on the floor while you and your friends ransack their home, tearing the place apart, because they might be hiding weapons. There is no reason to believe this house in particular is enemy, same for the next one, and the one after that, or the seven before; they just happened to be there, and maybe they had weapons. Probably not, they almost never did. There were a few times when we had deliberate raids based on solid intel and wed turn up some stuff, but generally we were just tossing houses because we could. Then maybe your FISTer [field artillery forward observer] forgets to carry the remainder, and drops a mess of mortars on the village your supposed to protect. Maybe the big Iraqi running at you screaming was just mentally ill. Of course, you wont know this until after youve put seven rounds through his rib cage, and his wailing, ancient mother is cradling his body, spitting at you. Maybe when you get back to the FOB [Forward Operating Base], the Platoon Sergeant tells you you did the right thing; next time, it might be a suicide bomber. They tell you it was an honest mistake, it wasnt your fault. They tell you to go get some chow, take a shower if the water works, and sleep it off. You did good work that day, apparently. Chris Hondros' well-known "One Night in Tal Afar" photograph (Getty Images) showing the aftermath of a checkpoint shooting - Samar Hassan, 5, screams after her parents were killed after their car unwittingly approached a US Army checkpoint at dusk in Tal Afar, Iraq. During chow, the TV is on AFN, and they are rebroadcasting some Fox News show, and youre hearing about drone strikes, and all the great things were doing, and you cant help but see that poor dumb assholes face, looking past his mother as he bleeds to death. Hes in pain, obviously, but he has the most perfectly confused look on his face. He doesnt comprehend whats happening. Little more hot sauce on your eggs doesnt really help. Then you realize you havent seen anything to support the idea that these poor fuckers are a threat to your home. You look around and you see all he contractors making six figure salaries to fix your shit, train Iraqis, maintain the ridiculous SUVs the KBR dicks ride around in. You consider the fact that every 25mm shell costs about forty bucks, and your company has been handing those fuckers out like shrapnel flavored parade candies. You think about all the fuel youre going through, all the ammo and missiles and grenades. You think about every time you lose a vehicle, the Army buys a new one. Maybe you start to see a lot of people making a lot of money on huge amounts of human suffering. Then you go on leave, and realize that Ayn Rand has no idea what the fuck shes talking about. You realize that Fox News and Limbaugh and John McCain dont respect you or your buddies. They dont give a fuck if you get a parade or a box when you get home, youre nothing to them but a prop. Then you get out, and you hate the news. You hate the apathy, and you hate the murder being carried out in your name. You grew up wanting so bad to be Luke Skywalker, but you realize that you were basically a Stormtrooper, a faceless, nameless rifleman, carrying a spear for empire, and you start to accept the startlingly obvious truth that these are people like you. Maybe your heart breaks a little every time some asshole brags about a successful drone strike. Your statement is correct enough; if all of America was one dude, that dude would not give a shit about the little brown people were burning and crushing and choking to death. We arent all like that, but it makes me incredibly, profoundly sad to see what my country actually is. Some of us care, and I think there are more every day. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Deckard (#0)
The only people that God ever authorized any other human being to kill are: (1) Murderers of human beings, after they have been tried and convicted using a process that either guarantees the guilt of the convict, or guarantees the damnation to hell of the false witnesses because THEY must carry out the execution of the man they know to be innocent. (2) As an incident to self-defense if somebody else is attacking you. (Not as an incident to their self-defense against you if you attack them under color of authority. If YOU are the attacker, you are not authorized to kill and you are a murderer if you do. The defender as the right to use force. The attacker has no right to attack). (3) Hebrews in ancient Sinai entering into ancient Canaan under orders by God to kill the Canaanites there for their sins. God never gave such an order to any other people at any other time, so every OTHER invading army in history is a marching squad of murderers all bound for hell for the people they kill. That's the way it is. No amount of bitching about it will change the mind of God, and he is the one who will judge. And note: there's no "I was following orders" exception.
(3) Hebrews in ancient Sinai entering into ancient Canaan under orders by God to kill the Canaanites there for their sins. God never gave such an order to any other people at any other time, so every OTHER invading army in history is a marching squad of murderers all bound for hell for the people they kill. I believe there are other times god had Israel kill their enemies. You are certainly incorrect about every other invading Army of history being destined for hell. Firstly you were part of the Army that invaded Iraq. So you are going to Hell correct? Also every ww2 vet from America isn't going to He'll. Also you ignored repentance and forgiveness.
Could well be. But there is always repentance and forgiveness. Trouble is, if we don't recognize that what we did was sinful, we don't repent it. That's why the refusal to see the law as it is is so dangerous for us.
Exactly. That is why I said your blanket statement is incorrect. I'm not saying you are going to hell. It was a rhetorical question.
Could you expand on that. What in this law is so worrisome?
I could. Let me come down from some of my nationalist rants. The conspiracy theorists, pot-advocates and "guns can never be regulated in any way because...Constitution!...which the Supreme Court has no right to interpret" nuts wear me out. I need to recharge my batteries and think rationally before I answer this question, because I think that THIS question, and the issues of human violence and its limitation, is THE most important religious issue of our time, and of all time, since the licit limits of violence are the ultimate limit of all government, all law, and all human power. Where two people disagree, either one will persuade the other if one is persuadable, or one will overbear the other if he is stronger. Or there will be a stalemate. It's the matter of overbearing with greater strength where law enforcement and nation states come in, and ultimately law enforcement is about the power to kill and its limits. There is a lot there to unpack, and I don't want to go off half-cocked on this one or I'll end up having to clean up my own mess for the rest of my days here. I get one shot at getting this right, so I'm going to defer until I have the mental energy to do the question justice.
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