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Title: Catalonia Just Declared Independence From Spain, Senate Authorized Constitutional Measures | TIME
Source: TIME
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Published: Oct 27, 2017
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Post Date: 2017-10-27 15:39:02 by buckeroo
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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

I guess that nationalism thing is still a thing.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-27   16:27:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Yup. Yet, a HUGE number of voters agree with multiculturalism.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-27   17:35:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

Yup. Yet, a HUGE number of voters agree with multiculturalism.

As they should. In a place like America, there is no dominant ethnic culture. What we have in common is a political culture, and that has to be enough. Certainly the LACK of a dominant ethnic culture has served America better than ethnic nationalism has served Europe. In the end, the intelligent minorities were driven OUT of all of the European countries, they came here where no ethnic culture dominates, and they all contributed to make a nation much stronger, wealthier, more advanced and better to live in, for them anyway, than ANY of the European (or Asian, or African) countries they left behind.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-27   17:43:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

I'm afraid this won't end well for that Catalonians. Too bad really. But no country wants to see some of its most valuable real estate go waltzing off. We'd be the same way about NYC or CA or FL or TX deciding they wanted independence.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-27   18:47:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#4)

We'd be the same way about NYC or CA or FL or TX deciding they wanted independence.

Hell, we were that way about Arkansas and Alabama when THEY tried!

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-27   21:01:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

I just don't see the Catalonians as willing to raise of force of 5,000 or more fighters who are willing to fire from the rooftops on other Spaniards or use IEDs against Spanish troops or bomb federal centers located in Catalonia.

That's what it would take. And I don't think they're willing to do it. They just don't have what it takes, the way the Irish did when they stood up to Britain.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-27   21:12:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#8)

They just don't have what it takes, the way the Irish did when they stood up to Britain.

Yeah,but the Irish are by nature a troublesome people,and they fight each other when there are no British around. Sometimes even when there are British soldiers around.

The Catholic Church had a large roll to play in those wars,too,because they were about making and keeping Ireland Catholic more than they were about independence.

I don't see trading a queen with a crown for a queen with a pointy hat as being an improvement,but since I'm not Irish it's really none of my business.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-28   10:26:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#11)

I don't see trading a queen with a crown for a queen with a pointy hat as being an improvement,but since I'm not Irish it's really none of my business.

Queen Francis of the Vatican? LOL

Well, he did choose a sexually ambiguous name.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   10:51:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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