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Title: Feelbad story of the day: Victims of Vegas massacre being harassed, threatened by conspiracy theorists
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10 ... reatened-conspiracy-theorists/
Published: Oct 26, 2017
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2017-10-26 22:31:25 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 5623
Comments: 47

I have no deep thoughts or hot takes for you about this. I just wanted to call it to your attention as a reminder that you should be rooting for a nuclear war that eradicates us as a species, the sooner the better.

Maybe the mutant giraffes that eventually evolve higher consciousness and inherit the planet will do better. At least for a few million years, until they produce a giraffe strain of conspiracy theorists who run around tormenting wounded giraffes.
“You are a lying piece of shit and I hope someone truly shoots you in the head,” a commenter wrote to [Braden] Matejka on Facebook, one week after a gunman killed 58 people and injured hundreds more [and shot him in the head]. “Your soul is disgusting and dark! You will pay for the consequences!” said another. A Facebook meme quickly spread with a photo of him after the shooting, captioned: “I’m a lying cunt!”…

“You’ll pay on the other side,” said a user named Mach. Others called Braden a “LYING BASTARD”, “scumbag govt actor” and “fuckin FRAUD”, while one user named Josh wrote: “I hope someone comes after you and literally beats the living fuck outa you.”…

Mike Cronk, another Las Vegas survivor, was also widely targeted by conspiracy theorists after he did interviews with ABC and NBC news stations. So many users on YouTube have published videos calling him a fake that a search for his name autocompleted to “Mike Cronk crisis actor” and “Mike Cronk fake”. The top three search results for “Mike Cronk Las Vegas” were conspiracy videos, promoted higher than the ABC News segment.

Matejka has since deleted his social media accounts, a small but significant bit of collateral damage from the attack in cutting him off from friends in the aftermath of a life-changing horror. The fact that he’s gone dark is, of course, now itself being cited by conspiracy theorists as evidence that the conspiracy is real, not a perfectly natural reaction to having the trauma of what happened to him in Vegas compounded by ghoulish cranks.

But this is now par for the course after mass shootings. Many stories have been written about Truthers alighting on the Sandy Hook shooting and torturing the parents of the children murdered there by accusing them of participating in a government hoax. What the supposed hoax was designed to achieve isn’t clear. If the idea is that the shooting was a pretext for a federal gun grab, have a look at Congress’s track record in passing new gun-control bills over the last decade. (It’s particularly stupid to worry about a gun grab with Republicans in total control of government.) Even the most half-baked conspiracy should, you would think, involve a clear-cut motive on the shooter’s part that will supposedly be exploited by the government to persecute people who share his beliefs. Instead Stephen Paddock’s motive is still unknown. Worst. Conspiracy. Ever. But that doesn’t solve Matejka’s problem.

The predictable harassment campaigns against victims of mass shootings will eventually be used as part of the argument for having the government regulate tech platforms more aggressively. The core of that argument has nothing to do with harassment — it’s that behemoths like Google, Facebook, and Amazon increasingly have de facto monopoly power over commerce and communications and can crush or buy out any new firms that try to compete. But to galvanize public support for regulation, proponents will need failings they can point to that hit skeptics in the gut. The recurring practice of cretins using social media and YouTube videos to defame and harass shooting victims and their families, especially when children are involved, is as gut-churning as it gets. If Google and Facebook can’t protect these people as they’re recovering from near-murder, more Americans will be willing to let the feds try.

Exit question: Are we sure this is the feelbad story of the day? Or is it … this one? Like I say, root for nuclear war.


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Kook on.

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#1. To: All, A K A Stone, nolu chan, Deckard, Liberator, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#0)

/crickets

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   10:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

Kook on.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-28   10:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

Kook on.

Brilliant comment. I could have written it myself. In fact, I did.

I wanted to see if our local kooks here at LF stand behind their fellow-kooks who are harassing these survivors and those who lost loved ones. We have a few kooks here at LF who were fully into posting all that Alex Jones stuff about how the Newtown massacre and the Boston Marathon bombing was all just crisis actors and how the cops/CIA/FBI/etc. were the real perps of the whole thing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   11:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

Did I tell you about the unknown second shooter scaling up/down the Mandalay Bay windows to the 32nd floor? There is no evidence of him using a parachute.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-28   11:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#4)

Yeah but wrong thread.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   12:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#3)

We have a few kooks here at LF

Ah... um, we have more than "a few kooks" here at LF. It's easier to count the sane posters. I do like it when you point out the Fruits & nuts tho.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-10-28   14:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#4) (Edited)

Speaking of kooks...

I'm surprised you didn't proclaim your dead dumb ball sniffing dog, Scruffy wasn't the second shooter.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-10-28   14:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#6)

Ah... um, we have more than "a few kooks" here at LF. It's easier to count the sane posters. I do like it when you point out the Fruits & nuts tho.

Have you noticed how they start squirming and whining whenever I use the word 'kook'?     ; )

This is why Goldi had a policy forbidding the word 'kook' over at LP. Not that anyone really paid attention to the rule.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   14:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland, tooconservative, Y'ALL (#6)

: Tooconservative (#3) ---- We have a few kooks here at LF

Ah... um, we have more than "a few kooks" here at LF. It's easier to count the sane posters. I do like it when you point out the Fruits & nuts tho. lol ----- GrandIsland

Gotta love it when the real kooks out themselves.

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-28   15:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative, kO0k5 (#8)

Your depth of comprehension may tend to make you lax in worldly ways.

(Compliments of the Linux Fortune program.)


Goldi had a policy forbidding the word 'kook' over at LP

That was to protect magic bullet freaks, and yukon's nutless canaries.

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-28   15:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tpaine, hondo68, GrandIsland, Deckard, Liberator (#9)

Ah, so we can assume that you fully approve of these kooks harassing the Vegas survivors.

“You are a lying piece of shit and I hope someone truly shoots you in the head,” a commenter wrote to [Braden] Matejka on Facebook, one week after a gunman killed 58 people and injured hundreds more [and shot him in the head]. “Your soul is disgusting and dark! You will pay for the consequences!” said another. A Facebook meme quickly spread with a photo of him after the shooting, captioned: “I’m a lying cunt!”…

“You’ll pay on the other side,” said a user named Mach. Others called Braden a “LYING BASTARD”, “scumbag govt actor” and “fuckin FRAUD”, while one user named Josh wrote: “I hope someone comes after you and literally beats the living fuck outa you.”…

Mike Cronk, another Las Vegas survivor, was also widely targeted by conspiracy theorists after he did interviews with ABC and NBC news stations. So many users on YouTube have published videos calling him a fake that a search for his name autocompleted to “Mike Cronk crisis actor” and “Mike Cronk fake”. The top three search results for “Mike Cronk Las Vegas” were conspiracy videos, promoted higher than the ABC News segment.

You should be very proud of yourselves for lending tacit support to these nutjobs who are attacking the Vegas survivors and the grieving families.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   15:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#11)

Ah, so we can assume that you fully approve of these kooks harassing the Vegas survivors

I don't fully approve of any kooks harassing the Vegas survivors, and you know it,------ Mr. Too-kooky-anti-conservative...

Give it up TC. You ain't fooling anybody at LF.

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-28   15:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tpaine (#12) (Edited)

I don't fully approve of any kooks harassing the Vegas survivors, and you know it,------ Mr. Too-kooky-anti-conservative...

Ah, then you have finally expressed an opinion related to the story instead of your usual chickenshit sniping from the cheap seats.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   16:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative, Donalds Deep State Fusion Canary cult (#11)

You deep state Donald fusion canaries, never give up on defending gov false flag operations.

QUIT harassing the witnesses and victims of your cult's false flag massacre in LV!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-28   16:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#1)

‹/crickets›

Are you accusing someone here of attacking a victim of a violent attack?

If someone suffers a violent attack, does that imply nobody can question the government conspiracy theory de jour of what happened and who may have been involved?

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-28   16:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#13)

Chickenshit sniping from the cheap seats has always been a feature of your posts, -- as anyone here can verify.

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-28   17:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, Deckard, Liberator, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#15)

Are you accusing someone here of attacking a victim of a violent attack?

I'm saying that Deckard certainly posted plenty of "crisis actor" articles following the Newtown shooting and the Boston Marathon bombing.

And plenty of other kooks were egging him on and agreeing with him too.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   17:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tpaine (#16)

Chickenshit sniping from the cheap seats has always been a feature of your posts, -- as anyone here can verify.

You really can't summon an original thought, can you?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   17:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#14)

QUIT harassing the witnesses and victims of your cult's false flag massacre in LV!

So you're saying that Vegas was a government massacre of 500 people? Like all of you kooks still say about 9/11 and other massacres?

It sure sounds like it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   17:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative, magic bullet continues on (#19) (Edited)

So you're saying that Vegas was a government massacre of 500 people?

Have you checked the gov archives to make sure that the magic bullet is still there, and not in LV?

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-28   17:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tooconservative (#18)

---- chickenshit sniping from the cheap seats.

It's highly amusing that you have pretentious ideas about having original thoughts, my boy.

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-28   17:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tpaine (#21)

You ain't my daddy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   18:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: hondo68 (#20)

Have you checked the gov archives to make sure that the magic bullet is still there, and not in LV?

Have you?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   18:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#22)

You ain't my daddy.

Another idiocy from Capt Obvious.

If I'd have impregnated yo momma, you'd be a lot smarter, sunny boy

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-28   18:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tpaine (#24)

If I'd have impregnated yo momma, you'd be a lot smarter, sunny boy

Smart enough even to spell "sonny" correctly?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   18:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative (#25)

How clever of you to try to make this a spelling bee. You must be the smartest clown in the room.

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-28   19:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo, Tooconservative (#4)

Did I tell you about the unknown second shooter scaling up/down the Mandalay Bay windows to the 32nd floor? There is no evidence of him using a parachute.

Parachute? They didn't need no steeeenking parachoot!

VxH  posted on  2017-10-28   20:25:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: VxH (#27)

Well, there's certainly nothing kooky about a Klingo-Lutheran bird of prey in stealth mode hovering outside a Vegas hotel.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   21:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Tooconservative (#28)

VxH  posted on  2017-10-29   0:29:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tpaine, Tooconservative (#12)

Give it up TC. You ain't fooling anybody at LF.

I think he's fooling himself.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-30   10:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Tooconservative, VxH (#28)

Well, there's certainly nothing kooky about a Klingo-Lutheran bird of prey in stealth mode hovering outside a Vegas hotel.

Well, there's some irony.

You and VxH as "birds of a feather."

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-30   10:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator, VxH (#31)

You're obviously a disinfo agent of the Lutheran Illuminati.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-30   11:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Liberator (#31) (Edited)

I got the facts on the bird-conspiracy straight from Charlie!

https://www.youtube.com /user/CharlieFrost2012

 

VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   11:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#32) (Edited)

obviously a disinfo agent of the Lutheran Illuminati.

Yep. The way he crosses the t in Liberator is a dead giveaway.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   11:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#31)

You and VxH as "birds of a feather."

His posts of the same image ad nauseum reminds me of byeltsin's tendency to post his Gay Jewish Clan image.

Strictly a disinformation mission for both him and TC.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-30   11:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deckard (#35)

Strictly a disinformation mission for both him and TC.

How's the manifesto coming along?

VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   11:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: VxH (#34)

Yep. The way he crosses the t in Liberator is a dead giveaway.

That goes without saying. You're kinda belaboring the obvious, VxH.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-30   11:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deckard, byeltsin, nolu chan (#35)

His posts of the same image ad nauseum reminds me of byeltsin's tendency to post his Gay Jewish Clan image.

HA!

Except beyond the hieroglyphics and haiku, Boris gets more of it than would initially appear.

Strictly a disinformation mission for both him and TC.

Obviously.

There is such a thing as "trying too hard."

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-30   11:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: VxH (#36)

How's the manifesto coming along?

Does your therapist feel dressing up as a Klingon to McDonalds every day is constructive to your recovery?

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-30   11:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: VxH (#33)

I got the facts on the bird-conspiracy straight from Charlie!

Let me help you...

Tee-Bee and Movies...ISN'T REAL!!

(you're welcome)

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-30   11:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#39)

dressing up as a Klingon to McDonalds every day

It's Big Kahuna Burger - not McDonald's...


...and it's only on Wednesdays.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   11:27:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Liberator (#40)

ISN'T REAL!!
 
Gee, ya think so?
 
psy·cho·sis
s+ÈkMsYs/
noun
  1. a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.
  2.  
  3. [The Architects of Western Decline:
  4. A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]


"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either  ideological subversion , active measures, or  psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles. 
 
Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups:  those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation;  [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)

 


VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   11:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Tooconservative (#37) (Edited)

You're kinda belaboring the obvious, VxH.

Yah but, but sometimes it's only obvious if...

... Well. You know. I can't go into specifics. They might change the decoder frequency if THEY realize we're on to them.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   11:35:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: VxH (#43)

Say no more.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-30   11:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: VxH (#41)

While you're in Hawaii as Klingon Kahuna, maybe a double session with Dr. Byeltsin will help. On Wednesday. Friday. Monday.

Staggering those days with him gives you time off to consult Dr. McCoy on Tuesday and Thursday.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-30   11:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: VxH, Deckard, TooConservative (#43)

Well, look at The Erasure and Klingon during their wedding reception!

Congrats you two!

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-30   11:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Liberator (#45) (Edited)

"Liberator"

LOL.

Does your contemplative abode have an outhouse, indoor plumbing, or... just a bucket?

VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   12:02:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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