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Your Vegas video was produced by the Niburu/Planet X kooks.
#6. To: Tooconservative, VXH, nolu chan, buckeroo (#3) There is some interesting footage at the 9 minute mark.
#7. To: Tooconservative (#5) Niburu/Planet X kooks. Never heard of either of them. Just clicking on youtube videos and seeing what is out there. Just because I post this doesn't mean I believe it. Just checking out both sides.
#8. To: A K A Stone (#4) You didn't have time to watch the video yet. I've watched the video it's recycled from enough. Again. The sound of the "weapons fire" he's attributing to the "shooter" is the local crack of the bullets as they impact and/or pass by. There are two sets of audio events to listen for: * the firecracker-like sound of the bullets. * the lower pitched muzzle report. Count the number of events and observe the patterns.
#9. To: VxH (#8) 10:54 is interesting.
#10. To: A K A Stone (#2) (Edited) Why the silly meaningless image? "Planet X / Nibburu" https://www.google.com/search? source=hp&q=Planet+X+%2F+Nibburu Not a credible source.
#11. To: VxH (#10) Not a credible source Perhaps you are correct. I've never heard of them. There is a video they have and it has some interesting shots. Care to comment or you just going to call me conspiracy theorist? No matter either way. I think one person did so far.
#12. To: A K A Stone (#9) (Edited) 10:54 is interesting. These Niburu/Planet X people are kooks and frauds. You can't assume they are honest or that they haven't manipulated the audio or video. They're complete liars about everything. And they've taken time out from their usual kooking about Niburu and Planet X and used their expertise to produce just one Vegas shooting video, the one you posted. They're kooks. It's a kookarama. They live to kook. They are trying to branch out from kooking about Niburu/Planet X into kooking about the Vegas massacre. But it is still just kookery. Because they are raging kooks. This video doesn't really rate its own thread, though I do like VxH's Klingon bird of prey.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#9) What he's claiming doesn't match the audio. He's focusing on the sound of the bullets - claiming the shots are local. Completely ignores the associated pattern of report that follows the bullet pattern. The report is sub-sonic. The bullets are traveling faster than the speed of sound. That's why there are TWO distinct and separate groups of sound events associated with the same shots.
#14. To: Tooconservative (#12) You gotta admit even if it is kooky. It kind of looks like they are shooting. Or did you watch it?
#15. To: VxH (#13) What he's claiming doesn't match the audio. Nothing about sound. Video and flashes in the crowd.
#16. To: A K A Stone (#14) You gotta admit even if it is kooky. It kind of looks like they are shooting. They're kooks. I don't pay attention to kooks. Not my job.
#17. To: A K A Stone (#11) (Edited) call me conspiracy theorist? Nah. It's easy for someone to think they hear something (and be misled) when they don't understand the acoustics. Especially when the Niburu cultists / grifters start injecting their click- bait input.
#18. To: A K A Stone (#15) Nothing about sound. Uhuh. And understanding the the audio is critical to understanding what's being presented.
#19. To: VxH, tooconservative (#17) Nah. It's easy for someone to think they hear something (and be misled) when they don't understand the acoustics.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation." --HERBERT SPENCER
#20. To: A K A Stone (#19) "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is
#21. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited) Like I said, I've seen the video these Niburuspiracists recycled - when it was first published. I understood the audio then, and it hasn't changed. The guy wants you to believe the "shooter" made sounds that A: were not local gunfire. Eventually somebody will compile a timeline with links to every burst of gunfire. I believe the evidence will all point back to those two windows. Haven't seen any evidence to the contrary yet.
#22. To: VxH (#21) Ok tell me about your audio. Where were was the taxi driver specifically at the first five burst fired. Show me where you checked the information. How did you find out where the taxi driver was? Then also since you are so smart. Do your echo test from where this video was shot. You are to lazy to dispute anything in this video. Even if you are right. So you are probably to busy or lazy to do what I asked. I seriously doubt you did your own research.
#23. To: Tooconservative (#20) There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation listening to a pack of goddamned kooks." --Tooconservative plagiarized. Also for someone who talks about everything posted. It is funny you can't debunk an image in a video. That is unlike you TC.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#22) How did you find out where the taxi driver was? I watched the Cab-driver video. Then I used google earth to view the 3d image of the hotel and surrounding area.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22) (Edited) You are to lazy to dispute anything in this video. I've already disputed it. You're too lazy to go do the research to learn and understand what you're hearing.
#26. To: VxH (#24) (Edited) Then I used google earth to view the 3d image of the hotel and surrounding area. Google Earth and Google Maps Street View were both helpful.
#27. To: VxH, tooconservative (#25) I've already disputed it. Then you should both email me your results privately. I want to see if they are the same. Oh you can't. Ok post what you found and describe it please. Why can't you do that?
#28. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#10)
[VxH #10] "Planet X / Nibburu" Says the person with the image from the credible source, pbase and Klingons. https://a4.pbase.com/o10/92/33392/1/166356364.c4kuLP7o.Klingons.jpg Why is pbase and Klingons more credible than Youtube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPrR9pP51E
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#29. To: nolu chan (#28) Says the person with the image from the credible source, pbase and Klingons. I demand that you seriously consider that this was a Klingon massacre. I read somewhere that they may have conspired with some Lutherans.
#30. To: nolu chan, VxH, A K A Stone, misterwhite (#28) That three-missing-windows video is total crap. It could easily be faked. And it is distinctly unreal looking. The actual building has windows that are deep gold in color, yet we see a fully illuminated blue sky above. You could fake that video and the windows without a lot of software in a half hour or so. Take a look at the Qronos16 YouTube channel. It's stuffed full of every kind of kookery that you can name. Menacing asteroids, insidious solar storm, sinister earthquakery, false flaggotry, End Times babbling, Fukushima coverage. Oh, yeah, and highly professional coverage of the Vegas massacre. Do you seriously expect anyone to credit anything to a YouTube channel of such odious and hackneyed kookery? YouTube is not a repository of knowledge. It's the Wikipedia of video. And, no, adding 4 billion nutjobs to the internet does not necessarily create more knowledge. A lot of it is just wrong and stupid. Or lures to try to get clicks out of gullible people. People can make significant money doing this. This is bottom-feeding on YouTube, all in the wake of a human tragedy. So, yes, the loons and kooks are out in full force.
#31. To: A K A Stone (#27) It's disputed if you know what you're hearing. Why don't you know that?
#32. To: A K A Stone (#22)
Another copy of the same video - claiming to be[Original footage of las vegas shooting 50 filled 200 injured]https://www.youtube.com/embed/kcjYefWRsKU? version=1&showinfo=0 Doubful that it's "original" - but anyhow observe the sustained burst in question, between: https://youtu.be/kcjYefWRsKU?t=8 and There isn't any discernible echo. Probably because this is the aiming point and not the origination point. Here's what I see between the last bullet sound and the last report:
Where T1 is the last bullet sound and T2 is the last report sound. 1.07 seconds between T1 and T2 = 1208 ft. 1208 ft from the Mandalay Bay, per Google earth, puts us right about where the video is being taken.
It's difficult to count the number of bullet events because they are in close synchronization with the report events - but I count somewhere between 80 - 95; making this probably one of the longer events I counted in the cab- driver videos - 94 rounds, which I suspect is from a 100 round drum magazine. Do we see a belt fed weapon or a drum in the "PLANET X INVESTIGATIONS" video? Nope. More evidence the Niburutards are FOS, as usual. ============== Distribution: A K A Stone,Tooconservative,nolu chan, buckeroo,KlingonAmbassador
#33. To: Tooconservative, VxH, A K A Stone, misterwhite (#30) That three-missing-windows video is total crap. It could easily be faked. Youtube is not exactly a reliable source. It may be useful for discussion and consideration.
#34. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#32) Doubful that it's "original" - but anyhow observe the sustained burst in question, between: It it is on Youtube, it is NOT the original, nor a bit for bit copy of the original.
#35. To: A K A Stone, VxH (#22) Where were was the taxi driver specifically at the first five burst fired. This video I posted to the other thread gives a very good idea of where the taxi was and when. He identifies specific Mandalay Bay landmarks in the taxi driver video. https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=53000&Disp=42#C42
#36. To: nolu chan (#34) nor a bit for bit copy of the original. Yeah I see/acknowledge what you're talking about regarding generation loss now -- Compression artifacts introduced by rendering from a compressed source.
#37. To: VxH, Klingon Ambassador, Kahless the Unforgettable (#32) Going out to all Klingons.
#38. To: nolu chan (#35) Yep. Same idea. I just looked for the covered carport with the curved road.
#39. To: nolu chan (#33) It may be useful for discussion and consideration. It's useful to discuss videos that may be fakes amid a stream of other contradictory videos? I don't think so.
#40. To: VxH, A K A Stone, Tooconservative (#32)
What do you mean by the last bullet? It that the time of the sound as recorded on that video, or what is it? Is T1 a gunshot and T2 an echo. What do you mean by report, if not an echo? And just how did you calculate such a remarkable result for distance? Don't tell me. 1,125 feet per second (the speed of sound) x 1.07 = 1,203.75 and you rounded it off to 1,208 feet. Forget the rounding. Why does that measure the distance from the video taker to the shooter? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound
In dry air at 0 °C (32 °F), the speed of sound is 331.2 metres per second (1,087 ft/s; 1,192 km/h; 741 mph; 644 kn). At 20 °C (68 °F), the speed of sound is 343 metres per second (1,125 ft/s; 1,235 km/h; 767 mph; 667 kn), or a kilometre in 2.91 s or a mile in 4.69 s.
#41. To: Tooconservative (#39)
It may be useful for discussion and consideration. It [Youtube] may be useful for discussion and consideration to determine whether some content about something or other is worth considering and researching. In the same way, reddit and 4chan cannot be taken at face value. In a thread full of unreliable videos, it may be useful to point out that contrary videos can be produced from Youtube. However, the one video I posted appears useful to get the geography and locate where the taxi driver was relative to the 32nd floor windows and in trying to figure out what area of the hotel is depicted in certain portions of her video. Whether one chooses to believe the flashes are muzzle shots or something else, they are not coming from the 32nd floor. There is a certain usefulness to that video. Youtube may be useful or entertaining. As proof of things, it is unreliable.
#42. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, Tooconservative, Klingon Ambassador (#40) (Edited)
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Conclusion: Burst B is NOT two weapons being fired simultaneously. It is one weapon being fired at a more distant target. The longer distance, observable in the period between Burst B's T1 and T2, manifests a corresponding longer period of reverb. It is the reverb that is being incorrectly interpreted as a second weapon (and second shooter) firing at the same time. Research resources:
#43. To: All (#42) (Edited)
Here's a snapshot with increased decimal precision and less rounded confusion :-}
#44. To: nolu chan (#41) However, the one video I posted appears useful to get the geography and locate where the taxi driver was relative to the 32nd floor windows and in trying to figure out what area of the hotel is depicted in certain portions of her video. Whether one chooses to believe the flashes are muzzle shots or something else, they are not coming from the 32nd floor. There is a certain usefulness to that video. Unless it is fake. How do you know that that is the original video? I haven't found an original source of it.
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