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Title: Video claims shooter dressed as police
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=LAS+VEGAS ... a=videos&iax=1&iai=qMxn7hpXmk4
Published: Oct 8, 2017
Author: Planet X Investigations
Post Date: 2017-10-08 15:41:01 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 56736
Comments: 186

Video claims shooter dressed as police


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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

>>PLANET X INVESTIGATIONS

SMH.  LOL.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   15:43:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: VxH (#1)

You didn't have time to watch the video yet.

Debunk it please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   15:46:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Debunk it please.

 


What would the Elapsed time between the Last Report sound event and the Last Bullet sound event be if, as the video alleged, the guy "dressed as police" was shooting?

VxH  posted on  2017-10-25   11:38:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#119)

What would the Elapsed time between the Last Report sound event and the Last Bullet sound event be....

It would be a positive number expression of time.

On your spreadsheet chartoon, notice that you calculate T = Tb - Ts.

You calculate elapsed time as the time it took the bullet to travel, minus the time it took the sound to travel.

The correct formula should be T = Ts – Tb = d/Vs – d/Vb.

As the bullet is supersonic, and sound is a constant, the sound would travel 400 yards in 1.06s and the bullet would travel in less than 1.06s. Subtracting 1.06 from a smaller number will always yield a negative number.

At 1200 feet, you calculate Tb as 0.448578s, and Ts as 1.062s and calculate the T as -0.6126, negative 0.6126 seconds. The average donkey could recognize that something is wrong when the result is negative time.

Just what do you think happens in negative 0.6126 seconds?

You could at least recognize that if you get a negative number, you have stated the required formula backwards, and you proceeded to perform the calculation backwards, and present the bass ackwards result of your misunderstanding of the study you looked at.

Moreover, while you state backwards that T = Tb - Ts, your spreadsheet never defines what T is supposed to represent. Negative 0.6126 is the time of what? What is the significance of this negative 0.6126 seconds (other than to demonstrate you did not understand the reference study)?

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-25   19:23:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: nolu chan (#128) (Edited)

>>The correct formula should be T = Ts – Tb = d/Vs – d/Vb.

Nope.

You're not even reading from the relevant part of the paper - where the microphone adjacent to the victim scenario is discussed.

http://ww w.btgresearch.org/AcousticReconstruction02042012.pdf

That's the same formula I have in my illustration:

VxH  posted on  2017-10-25   19:59:45 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: A K A Stone, tooconservative (#131)

If the guy "dressed like police" was a shooter as alleged - the Elapsed Time between Bullet Impact sound events and Muzzle Report sound events would be much nearer to zero than what the audio shows.

So, Is that "DEBUNKED" enough for ya?

VxH  posted on  2017-10-25   20:40:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: VxH (#132)

I think everyone wants to grab the mantle of science for themselves and deride each other as kooks. Which may be mostly true.

OTOH, the official investigation is so miserably bad that you can't blame people for making up their own explanations when the FBI has botched it this badly.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-25   21:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Tooconservative (#133)

I think everyone wants to grab the mantle of science for themselves and deride each other as kooks. Which may be mostly true.

This is a good example of why Jefferson wanted WE common people educated.  We're not supposed to be waiting for government "experts" to give us our opinions.


"... finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
 

VxH  posted on  2017-10-25   23:39:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: VxH (#137)

I've always thought it likely that Jefferson's first objection to modern American government would be to the monument they built in his memory. He just wasn't that kind of guy.

I think that famous personalities in history could only speak to their own times. We like to imagine or pretend that they were some wise sages, imparting timeless wisdom for the ages, blah-blah-blah, insert three fingers and think deep thoughts, etc.

The truth is that the great men of history were creatures of their own times and only capable of speaking to the great issues of their times. And placing them on pedestals and trying to pretend that they were speaking to the issues of our time is just laziness or political hackery.

You might just as well start asking WWJT (What Would Jesus Tweet?). Well, obiously, Jesus wouldn't tweet anything and he wouldn't even imagine it. And if he could imagine it, he wouldn't bother to tweet.

We are all inescapably products of our own times.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-25   23:50:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Tooconservative, A K A Stone (#138) (Edited)

The difference in time between the Bullet sound event and the Muzzle Report sound event corresponds to a shooter distance of approximately 1350 feet away.

Is the guy dressed like a policeman 1350 feet away?

NO.

So the claim of the video subject of this thread, that "shooter dressed as police" - is DEBUNKED.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-26   0:06:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: VxH (#140)

So the claim of the video subject of this thread, that "shooter dressed as police" - is DEBUNKED.

I never grasped why they thought there was any factual basis for this claim to begin with.

It just seemed like Kookbait to me, beginning to end. It was intended to appeal to the kooks and make some money for the con-men who created it when the kooks kept clicking on and reposting their kookery around the internet but especially on Fakebook and Twit-ter.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-26   0:15:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#142. To: Tooconservative (#141)

I never grasped why they thought there was any factual basis for this claim to begin with.

I give them the benefit of the doubt.

They mistook the bullet events as gunfire coming from the flashlight bearing police officer.

Then their imagination took over.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-26 00:26:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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