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Title: Conservative Roman Catholic theologians accuse pope of spreading heresy
Source: Crux Catholic Media
URL Source: https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2 ... -accuse-pope-spreading-heresy/
Published: Sep 24, 2017
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2017-09-24 20:35:02 by Hondo68
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Views: 3771
Comments: 34


Pope Francis waves as he arrives in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican for his weekly general audience on Sept. 20, 2017.

A total of 62 clergy, theologians and other academics, though no cardinals and only one bishop from a break-away traditionalist society, have signed a letter accusing Pope Francis of heresy for his document 'Amoris Laetitia' and its cautious opening to Communion for divorced and civilly remarried Catholics, with organizers saying the last time such a "correction" happened was in 1333 under Pope John XXII.

VATICAN CITY — Several dozen tradition-minded Roman Catholic theologians, priests and academics have formally accused Pope Francis of spreading heresy with his 2016 opening to divorced and civilly remarried Catholics.

In a 25-page letter delivered to Francis last month and provided Saturday to The Associated Press, the 62 signatories issued a “filial correction” to the pope — a measure they said hadn’t been employed since the 14th century.

The letter accused Francis of propagating seven heretical positions concerning marriage, moral life and the sacraments with his 2016 document “The Joy of Love” and subsequent “acts, words and omissions.”

The initiative follows another formal act by four tradition-minded cardinals who wrote Francis last year asking him to clarify a series of questions, or “dubbia,” they had about his 2016 text.

Francis hasn’t responded to either initiative. The Vatican spokesman didn’t immediately respond to an email seeking comment late Saturday.

None of the signatories of the new letter is a cardinal, and the highest-ranking churchman listed is actually someone whose organization has no legal standing in the Catholic Church: Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior of the breakaway Society of St. Pius X. Several other signatories are well-known admirers of the old Latin Mass which Fellay’s followers celebrate.

Also among the signatories are a handful of well-known Catholic figures from around the world, including Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, a former president of the Institute for the Works of Religion, the so-called “Vatican bank,” and Italian Monsignor Antonio Livi, former dean of the philosophy faculty at Rome’s Pontifical Lateran University.

Organizers said the initiative was nevertheless significant and a sign of the concern among a certain contingent of academics and pastors over Francis’s positions, which they said posed a danger to the faithful.

“There is a role for theologians and philosophers to explain to people the church’s teaching, to correct misunderstandings,” said Joseph Shaw, a spokesman for the initiative, signatory of the correction and senior research fellow in moral philosophy at Oxford University.

When it was released in April 2016, “The Joy of Love” immediately sparked controversy because it opened the door to letting civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion. Church teaching holds that unless these Catholics obtain an annulment — a church decree that their first marriage was invalid — they cannot receive the sacraments, since they are seen as committing adultery.

Francis didn’t create a church-wide pass for these Catholics, but suggested — in vague terms and strategically placed footnotes — that bishops and priests could do so on a case-by-case basis after accompanying them on a spiritual journey of discernment. Subsequent comments and writings have made clear he intended such wiggle room, part of his belief that God’s mercy extends in particular to sinners and that the Eucharist isn’t a prize for the perfect but nourishment for the weak.

Shaw said none of the four cardinals involved in the initial “dubbia” letter, nor any other cardinal, was involved in the “filial correction.”

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Organizers said the last time such a correction was issued was to Pope John XXII in 1333 for errors which he later recanted. The letter and accompanying materials may be found here.

Crux Staff also contributed to this report.

Conservative theologians accuse pope of spreading heresy

Pope Francis talks to an infant during his visit to the Santa Lucia Foundation in Rome, Friday, Sept. 22, 2017. (Credit: L'Osservatore Romano/Pool Photo via AP.)


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Looks like someone at the Vatican doesn't like heretics, and gave Francis a black eye. Maybe Benny 16, the shadow Pope? (2 images)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

The Catholics commit many many heresies.

Here are a few of many many.

Bible verses about worshipping Mary

Bowing down and praying is a form of worship. Catholics bow down and pray to statues and images of Mary which Scripture clearly forbids. They worship Mary more than they do Jesus Christ. Nowhere in Scripture does it say Mary will be a mediator.

15 Important Bible Verses About Worshipping Mary

Nowhere in Scripture does it say to pray and give thanks and honor to a man- made carving or a man-made painting. Nowhere in Scripture does it tell you to ask Mary to pray for you.

If I drew a woman on a piece of paper and called it Mary would you go in front of that paper, bow down, and start praying to it? You can’t worship God through created things. Jesus Christ is eternal and Mary is not the mother of God because God has no mother.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Mary was not in the beginning, but Catholicism turns her into a goddess. Mary was a sinner just like I am a sinner, just like you are a sinner, just like Paul was a sinner, just like Joseph was a sinner, etc.

Jesus Christ came to die for the sins of the world including Mary and everyone including Mary has to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior to get into Heaven.

All the worship, all the praise, all the honor belongs to God and He will not let anyone take away from the glory that is rightfully His. God will not be mocked. The Catholic Church is sending many people to hell. There will be no justifying sin and clear in your face biblical teachings when in front of God.

Pope John Paul II clearly prays to Mary

“Together we lift our confident and sorrowful petition to you.”

“Hear the cry of the pain of victims of war and so many forms of violence that bloody the earth.”

“Clear away the darkness of sorrow and worry, of hate and vengeance.”

“Open up our minds and hearts to faith and forgiveness!”

Catholics clearly worship statues and images of Mary.

1. Exodus 20:4-5 You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me.

2. Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

One mediator and that is Christ.

3. 1 Timothy 2:5 For, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus.

4. Hebrews 7:25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

5. John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

The angels remind us to worship God and no one else.

6. Revelation 19:10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God.” For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Mary was a sinner.

7. Ecclesiastes 7:20 Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

The last days: Many will do all they can to justify rebellion and clear biblical teachings.

8. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

9. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons.

Idolatry

10. Psalm 115:1-8 Not to us, O Lord, not to us, but to your name give glory, for the sake of your steadfast love and your faithfulness! Why should the nations say, “Where is their God?” Our God is in the heavens; he does all that he pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, the work of human hands. They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes, but do not see. They have ears, but do not hear; noses, but do not smell. They have hands, but do not feel; feet, but do not walk; and they do not make a sound in their throat. Those who make them become like them; so do all who trust in them.

11. Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

12. 1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols.

Reminders

13. Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

14. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

15. Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death.

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A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-24   20:59:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Francis should just admit that he's a Protestant Heretic, and then you could welcome him into your fold of Catholic haters.

Hondo68  posted on  2017-09-24   21:52:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: hondo68 (#4)

Being pro homo is a trait of you (6 year support ofmfag johnson) and the Catholics. Like when the pro gay Pope says that normal people must say they are sorry to the homos for marginalizing them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-24 22:20:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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