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Title: Trump Backpedals on Amnesty Deal After Massive Blowback from Base
Source: Lifezette
URL Source: http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/ ... ty-deal-massive-blowback-base/
Published: Sep 14, 2017
Author: Edmund Kozak
Post Date: 2017-09-15 09:53:05 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 180
Comments: 22

In a political he-said, she-said, Democrats claimed late Wednesday they reached a deal with President Donald Trump to pass permanent legal status for so-called “dreamers” in return for some border security measures — but no wall. Caught off-balance by intense blowback from his own base, Trump insisted there was no such bargain.

“No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote,” Trump tweeted Thursday morning. DACA stands for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, the Obama-era program that unconstitutionally allowed 690,000 illegal aliens to remain here temporarily while receiving work permits and government benefits.

As fury from populist-conservatives continued regarding any permanence of the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act, beneficiaries of which are called dreamers, Trump reiterated his commitment Thursday afternoon to building a wall on the nation’s southern border.

"We have to be sure the wall isn't obstructed, because without the wall, I wouldn't do anything. … It doesn't have to be here, but they can't obstruct the wall if it's in a budget or anything else," he told reporters in Florida. The president added that he would "only do it if we get extreme security, not only surveillance but everything that goes with surveillance ... If there's not a wall, we're doing nothing."

Reports of a grand amnesty bargain with Democrats brought swift and intense backlash from the president's base.

On "The Laura Ingraham Show" Thursday, caller after caller railed against Trump's potential DACA deal. The disappointment — and anger — was palpable.

"This is the most absolute betrayal," said Barret from Washington State. "You thought that George Bush's 'Read my lips, no new taxes' [was bad]; this is 10 times that on steroids, I guarantee it," he said.

Rob from Connecticut said Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is owed an apology.

"I just want to say that we shouldn't be surprised because all during the primaries we had 'lyin' Ted' telling us that Donald Trump is lying about the wall, he's lying about amnesty, and we were laughing at Ted Cruz," said Rob. "We should be apologizing to him right now and saying, 'Thank you for warning us, and we're sorry we didn't believe you.'"

Numerous callers said that Trump's tough stance on illegal aliens was a primary reason they voted for him.

"I voted for Trump for one reason only, and that was for immigration, and I'm thoroughly disgusted," said Rachel in Arizona.

"This morning I have PTSD — Pelosi Trump Schumer Disorder," said one caller named Jody. "I am done if they don't build the wall," she said. "I said if he does two things I'll vote for him again in four years — build the wall and appoint Supreme Court conservative justices, but it takes both. I'm done if he doesn't build the wall."

That some of Trump's most ardent former supporters are ready to jump ship after less than a year illustrates the extent to which any potential DACA deal with Democrats would be a serious mistake for Trump heading into the 2018 midterm elections.

"He asked if we wanted to throw out the good, educated dreamers," said Marie in Florida, in reference to one of Trump's Thursday tweets. "The answer is yes. The hard-working Americans want them gone, and if these illegals are so great and accomplished, send them back to Mexico where they can make Mexico great again."

'I'm outraged," said Pete in Arizona. "I've been a Trump supporter from the very beginning, since the primaries, and he is isolating himself from his base, and we're not going to take it."

"I didn't vote for his personality, I voted for policies and a platform, and if he's going to depart from those policies and promises, I'm done with the Pence-Trump ticket," said Susan from Indiana.

"Build the wall or lose my support," said a caller named Brian.

It's clear that Trump's supporters feel betrayed, frustrated, and above all fearful for America's future. They are no longer sure that the man who campaigned on making America great again has the will or desire to do so.

"When I look at Trump, I voted for him because he got on that stage and he played smash-mouth politics — he got up there and … he said that he was going to fight for the American people, he was going to fight for the middle class and the lower class," said caller Jeff. "I voted for him primarily because of his immigration and economic policies,[yet] here it is now he's bowing to the Establishment."

The reaction from hard-line immigration activists and experts tracked the feelings from grass-roots voters.

"Trump deserves as much disdain as we can muster to push back against his very clear and documented effort to plot an amnesty with Democrats," William Gheen, president of the Americans for Legal Immigration political action committee, told LifeZette's Brendan Kirby on Thursday.


Poster Comment:

Clearly, Laura Ingraham and her Lifezette are strongly against any flavor of amnesty. Same for the Breitbart crew. And Laura is getting a bigger microphone from her new show at 10pm EST on Fox News.

The quotes from the callers were very effective in this piece.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote

In other words: No Wall.

The Wall has become symbolic of the will of the People.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-15   10:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Rather than bitch and moan and speculate, go to the website and write an email. It's something, anyways.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-15   10:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#0)

" Trump's supporters feel betrayed, frustrated, and above all fearful for America's future. They are no longer sure that the man who campaigned on making America great again has the will or desire to do so. "

First, I voted for Trump, and encouraged family & friends to do so.

But I had a sick feeling that we were being had. I said on the night of the election that before the end of his first term, many, many supporters would be disappointed. I was right! He is just a GD NY liberal !!!

I have been disappointed with him, not enough Obutthole & Clinton hold overs gone, too much establishment people appointed, and in the White House ! Too many Trojan Horses there, etc, etc !

Instead of " Lock Her Up, Lock Her Up " we get " Bill & Hillary are really good people, and they have suffered enough "! And now, Lois Lerner is let off the hook ! Who is next ? They can do what ever they want, and that is OK ? Yet, I or anyone else could make some tiny mistake, and they will send a swat team to our home & burn us out ?

I guess Saint Donald's thinking is just like Hillary's " Laws are for the peon's, not the political connected " !!

F^ck Trump. I will not vote for him again. Voting is a waste of time !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-09-15   11:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13, misterwhite, Stoner (#1)

The Wall has become symbolic of the will of the People.

It really is Trump's own "Read My Lips" pledge.

He'll be a one-termer if he breaks that promise. I assume someone left in the WH is smart enough to tell him.

This reminds me of when Bush Junior was praising FEMA director Brownie. Just before he fired him in the face of a wave of rage from the public. Or how he backed down on Dubai Ports deal. Or especially when the GOP base rebelled with fury over his attempt to put old Aunt Harriet on the Supreme Court.

It brings to mind the very durable anger at Congress and at Jimmuh Carter personally over the Panama Canal giveaway. It still makes people mad to this day. Sometimes when the voters get really pissed, they just don't get over it.

I think Trump will have to back down.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-15   11:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Stoner (#3)

I have been disappointed with him, not enough Obutthole & Clinton hold overs gone, too much establishment people appointed, and in the White House ! Too many Trojan Horses there, etc, etc !

Instead of " Lock Her Up, Lock Her Up " we get " Bill & Hillary are really good people, and they have suffered enough "! And now, Lois Lerner is let off the hook ! Who is next ? They can do what ever they want, and that is OK ? Yet, I or anyone else could make some tiny mistake, and they will send a swat team to our home & burn us out ?

I share your disappointment.

Some of these things, the base will put up with. But I think the wall is non-negotiable if Trump actually wants a second term. Who knows? Maybe he'll decide it's all just a big hassle and not want a second one. It was just a publicity stunt for him to run to begin with, back when he and Roger Stone thought he'd do well if he could just win 12% of the GOP primary voters. Before he discovered just how angry the GOP base was with conventional GOP pols, even Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-15   11:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#4)

" I think Trump will have to back down. "

That decision will be made by Javanka, LOL !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-09-15   12:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#3)

Copy-and-paste your post and put it in an email at the website I posted.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-15   13:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#4)

He'll be a one-termer if he breaks that promise.

The wall? Yeah. But there's new money in the budget to keep that going for a while.

I'm more concerned about 800,000 Dreamers, their illegal parents, their citizen children, and their chain-migrating relatives. Trump has promised compassion, but I have no idea what that means.

But I blame this on Congress. They've blocked everything and now Trump is desperate for some kind, any kind, of legislative victory.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-15   13:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#8)

" Trump is desperate for some kind, any kind, of legislative victory. "

I suggested on another thread that Trump should have invited Ryan to the White House. Then he should have given Ryan a swift kick in the nuts. Then while Ryan is rolling around on the floor crying, he should kick Ryan in the teeth. He should do the same with Bitch McConnell.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-09-15   13:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#7)

Done. I seriously doubt it will do any good !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-09-15   13:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

In other words: No Wall.

The Wall has become symbolic of the will of the People.

Seems both are a lot like unicorns. People talk a lot about a non-existant wall,and politicians talk a lot about the "will of the people",but none are serious. If they were,we would be having our long-overdue revolution already happening.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-15   14:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Stoner (#6)

That decision will be made by Javanka, LOL !!

If you're trying to cheer me up, it isn't working.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-15   14:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite, hondo68 (#8)

But I blame this on Congress. They've blocked everything and now Trump is desperate for some kind, any kind, of legislative victory.

C'mon, Trump has to share the blame.

His erratic positions and contradictory tweeting has left them wondering when he'll hang them out to dry again so he can go party with Chuck and Nancy and Javanka and his other liberal Democrat NYC buddies.

Surprisingly enough, people don't trust presidents who are all over the place in policy, stab them in the back, run them down in the press, then party with their enemies, all so the fucking New York Times will write a few kind words about them.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-15   14:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Stoner (#3)

Instead of " Lock Her Up, Lock Her Up " we get " Bill & Hillary are really good people, and they have suffered enough "!

How have they suffered? They live in a big house, are worshipped by half the people in the country, and make millions by writing subversive books and giving equally subversive speeches that go uncontested. They are in power!

rlk  posted on  2017-09-15   14:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative, misterwhite, tweety trump (#13)

His erratic positions and contradictory tweeting has left them wondering when he'll hang them out to dry again so he can go party with Chuck and Nancy and Javanka and his other liberal Democrat NYC buddies.

I'm pretty sure that whitey has sent The Donald a strongly worded email politely requesting a Waco style raid on "Fake News", for listing all of his contradictory Tweets on one page!

And after twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on His head

hondo68  posted on  2017-09-15   15:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: hondo68 (#15)

I'm pretty sure that whitey has sent The Donald a strongly worded email politely requesting a Waco style raid on "Fake News", for listing all of his contradictory Tweets on one page!

Well, that should take care of it then, tout suite.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-15   15:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#15) (Edited)

I'm pretty sure that whitey has sent The Donald a strongly wo worded email politely requesting a Waco style raid on "Fake News", for listing al a al all of his contradictory Tweets on one page!

That won't work. If you really want to send a message to Washington, post your objections on Liberty's Flame. That'll show 'em you're serious.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-15   15:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#13)

Surprisingly enough, people don't trust presidents who are all over the place in policy, stab them in the back, run them down in the press, then party with their enemies, all so the fucking New York Times will write a few kind words about them.

And when that happens with Trump, you'll have a valid point.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-15   15:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tooconservative (#13)

Trump doesn't owe the Republicans shit. They've been against him since he announced. He reaches out to them and they piss all over him.

So Trump looks to the Democrats and all of a sudden you're complaining about Trump "hanging them out to dry"? Trump is "stabbing them in the back"? Trump is running them down in the press"?

You're funny.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-15   15:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Stoner (#10)

Done. I seriously doubt it will do any good !

It's the same with voting. But we do it anyways.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-15   15:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite, undocumented WH advisor (#17)

If you really want to send a message to Washington, post your objections on Liberty's Flame

Javanka eagerly awaits your guidance, carry on....

And after twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on His head

hondo68  posted on  2017-09-15   16:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: rlk (#14) (Edited)

" How have they suffered? "

I have no idea. Personally, I don't think they have at all !!! But, I am quoting Saint Donald. He said after the election that they would not prosecute Hillary, because " she & Bill are good people, and that they had suffered enough". What a steaming load of BS. And after campaigning calling her "Crooked Hillary", and screaming " lock her up, lock her up " and even told her in one the debates that " he would put her in jail where she belonged ". And now he turns Lois Lerner lose! I am so pissed !!!

I can not believe the number of Trump Bots that do not have a problem with that !!

"They live in a big house, are worshipped by half the people in the country, and make millions by writing subversive books and giving equally subversive speeches that go uncontested. They are in power!

Actually, they own more than one big house. She & Bill, considering the things they have done, should each be living inside of a 6 X 6 cell, or hanging from gallows !!!

Robert old friend, I told my wife the night of the election, that before the first term was over, many that voted for him would be disappointed. I was right, I just did not think it would be this soon !

The Trump pom pom bots can say what ever they want. It is obvious that the globalist, banker, NWO / CFR crowd are still in control, and Saint Donald is doing what ever they tell him to do !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-09-15   18:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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