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Title: Trump Doesn’t Know What He’s Doing
Source: Commentary Magazine
URL Source: https://www.commentarymagazine.com/ ... p-know-hes-doing-debt-ceiling/
Published: Sep 11, 2017
Author: Noah Rothman
Post Date: 2017-09-11 11:50:38 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 4198
Comments: 32

This isn't triangulation.

The word “deal” has a definition. It implies mutual benefit and reciprocity as a result of a negotiation. The arrangement to which Donald Trump agreed with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Wednesday was no deal because there was no negotiation. By all accounts, Trump took the first offer Democrats made to secure an unconditional hike in the nation’s debt ceiling for just three months in exchange for disaster relief—with no spending offsets.

For the “Never Trump” conservative right, this amounts to the confirmation of a theory: Donald Trump is a closet liberal. Not really. Trump is no conservative—he’s essentially admitted as much—but his ideological affinities are tenuous at best. He’s done some conservative things, and he’s done some liberal things. Where Trump-skeptical conservatives have a point is their contention that pragmatism untampered by principle is dangerous. That proposition is going to get a serious real-world test when Republicans and Democrats head back to the negotiating table on the debt ceiling in November.

For liberals, the moment is urgent. Donald Trump just proved his self-proclaimed capacity to eschew tribal politics and cross the aisle. This is nothing less than an existential threat to one of the few things Democrats of all stripes agree on: anti-Trumpism. They cannot allow Trump to undermine their only message. “Muslim ban, his budget, Trumpcare, Arpaio, Charlottesville response,” wrote Center for American Progress President Neera Tanden. “These are many things, but they are not liberal.” Conservatives would debate the alleged conservatism of some of these things, but you can understand the liberal political imperative of pinning these controversial episodes on conservatism. “He is literally the conservative movement made flesh,” film producer Jordan Horowitz told me. Unless you were in a vegetative state for most of 2015 and 2016, this amounts to a wish fathering the thought.

The liberal reaction explains why the “anti-anti-Trump” faction of the Republican coalition has chosen to celebrate the wisdom of Trump’s impulsive spasm. Writing in The Federalist, Ben Domenech is even more convinced of Donald Trump’s advantageous political position than Trump himself. “The path of least resistance, the path of popularity for him, is to dismiss the demands of Congressional Republicans on virtually everything,” Domenech wrote, save for a few priority items for social conservatives and constitutional originalists. “In almost every other way, he has the opportunity to govern like Bill Clinton and triangulate a path through this screwed up political system.”

Domenech is right; Trump is stronger and more popular than congressional Republicans. He’s wrong, however, to suggest that Trump “doesn’t need” his party’s congressional majorities.

What Trump did is not Clintonian triangulation. In Bill Clinton’s case, triangulation meant adopting as many aspects of his opponent’s position as possible without fracturing his core coalition not to advance the interests of his political adversaries but to undermine them. In the process, Clinton robbed Republicans of sources of political cohesion and coherence. “Hegelian in concept: the idea of a thesis, an antithesis, and a synthesis,” former Clinton advisor Dick Morris told PBS. By picking “a la carte” from the most popular agenda items of both parties, Clinton preserved his personal popularity.

Triangulation was a boon to Bill Clinton himself but not Democrats or the progressive agenda his party’s ideological reformers sought. But even Bill Clinton was cautious not to undermine his party’s leaders. He was under no illusions that Republicans would somehow be better stewards of his presidency than the opposition party. By contrast, Donald Trump has cut the legs out from under the Republican Party’s congressional leadership to no discernible end.

House Speaker Paul Ryan and Majority Leader Mitch McConnell are surrounded by insurrectionary elements within their own caucuses. Managing the GOP conference is an exercise in herding cats. Buying time to negotiate a pro-growth tax code reform plan to mollify conservatives within the Republican conference frustrated over the lack of conservative reforms was the GOP leadership’s chief objective in negotiating a debt ceiling hike. Grumbling in the ranks is already deafening. Rumors of a mutiny are growing louder, and now leadership has no time to assuage the mutineers. Already thorny intramural GOP negotiations over tax code reform and, yes, health care reform just became that much more difficult. And Democrats won new leverage for themselves when the debt limit comes up again and their party’s votes are needed for yet another clean hike just one week before Christmas.

If Donald Trump thinks he can govern without Republicans, he’s going to be reminded rather quickly that the only thing that unites Democrats is the prospect of seeing him humiliated. There is no concession he could make, no position he could adopt, that would compel Democrats to abandon the only cohesive principle keeping the post-Obama Democratic coalition together. Schumer and Pelosi understand triangulation; they were witness to it firsthand. They will entertain the president it only insofar as it gives them the power to undermine Trump when it suits them.

Democrats will give the president all the rope he needs to hang himself, and the president seems not to see the trap into which he’s walking. Trump’s ego will outlast this presidency. The conservative agenda might not.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

Willy once again demonstrates the socialists Trump derangement syndrome.

tpaine  posted on  2017-09-11   12:09:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tpaine (#1)

Willy once again demonstrates the socialists Trump derangement syndrome.

The fault is not with Willie, it's with Trump. This is what you get from political amateurs and from those, like Trump, who crave to see any kind of favorable headline about them in the Slimes.

Everyone agrees that he got rolled by Pelosi and Schumer and got nothing in return for it. He hurt the party by undercutting the GOP Congress for no good reason.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-11   12:48:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

He hurt the party by undercutting the GOP Congress for no good reason.

He hurt the party for a very good reason: the party refuses to follow his lead, refuses to pass legislation - such as the repeal of Obamacare they've campaigned on for 8 years, and refuses to unite to shut down the special prosecution of Trump (while simultaneously refusing to investigate the Clintons).

The purpose of the Republicans seems to be to batten down the hatches, endure Trump, make his presidency unsuccessful, in order to preserve the Bush family power structure.

So Trump decided to throw the issues into their lap, and force them to either act, right before the election, to fulfill their promises and make their positions clear, or refuse to act, and thereby also make their positions clear.

Trump is the CEO. He is not willing to play games with a hostile and dithering board. He's forcing their hand. If they play their hand against Trump NOW - as they so very much want to - they will blow up in the elections, and Trump has demonstrated that he WILL work with the Democrats, and they with him. So the Congress has had complete control of the agenda taken away from them. The President, not the Republican Congress, is calling the shots. And President Trump will cut deals with Democrats to make what he wants a reality, so the Republicans are on notice: do what you promised now, or die in 2018.

The party hurt itself by being treacherous liars who never intended to do what the Trump train was elected to do. Trump has flushed them out. Now they will either act, by shifting decisively in Trump's direction, OR they will fail, but refusing to act, and be swept out in a motivated Democrat hurricane, while Republican voters stay home.

There was a very good reason to undercut the GOP Congress: they have proven faithless and worthless. Now they have to fight for their political lives and actually take positions that define them, in law, or refuse to (which also defines their position).

If Trump is right, and his popularity is based on populism, then the Republicans will sweep to re-election and extended power by giving Trump what he wants, but they will be destroyed by the American people if they either (a) do what they want, contrary to what Trump and the People want, or (b) refuse to do anything.

Trump can work with Democrats. Republicans can't. So if they don't want to lose Congress, they have to work with each other to pass things that the people want.

Trump's strategy is smart. He puts the pressure right on the Congressional Republicans: shit or get off the pot.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-11   13:09:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

He hurt the party for a very good reason: the party refuses to follow his lead, refuses to pass legislation - such as the repeal of Obamacare they've campaigned on for 8 years, and refuses to unite to shut down the special prosecution of Trump (while simultaneously refusing to investigate the Clintons).

What are you babbling about?

Trump has been no help on repealing 0bamaCare, he has made it harder to pass.

Congress has no power over the special prosecutor that is employed by the DoJ. Sessions recused himself and his #2 appointed Mueller. How is that the fault of Congress in any way?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-11   13:36:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#5)

Congress has the power to refuse to fund the special prosecutor.

It is Congress' job to repeal and replace Obamacare. Congress is controlled by Republicans like you. They chose to fail, just like Sessions chose to fail and Sessions continues to fail by not un-recusing himself and ending the charade, and firing his #2 for good measures.

You Republicans love game playing. The jig is up. Trump has given you three months to deliver. Stop whingeing and get it done: you control both Houses of Congress and the Supreme Court and 35 States, and Trump will sign whatever you send up.

You people have endless excuses. Nobody is listening to you anymore. Either do it or die in the next election.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-11   13:48:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

I just love this post! Finally, somebody sticks it to them like it needs to be said.

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