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Title: Did lesbians cause Hurricanes Irma and Harvey? God knows.
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin ... ry.html?utm_term=.6cbbfe9a32da
Published: Sep 11, 2017
Author: Dana Milbank
Post Date: 2017-09-11 09:02:13 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 431
Comments: 7

It’s that season again. An ominous swirl forms in the Atlantic, citizens batten down or evacuate, TV weather reporters put on rain slickers and, as predictably as National Weather Service bulletins, some End-Times pastors and other provocateurs on the right attribute the storm to a wrathful God’s vengeance on liberals.

The storm surge has already washed up Jim Bakker, whose televangelism never quite recovered from his sex scandal and prison sentence for fraud. After Hurricane Harvey, he declared that “this flood is from God,” punishment for the former mayor of Houston attempting to subpoena ministers’ sermons.

Bakker said this while promoting his “Tasty Pantry,” a bucket of dehydrated food to help survive the apocalypse, and while sharing his set with Pastor Rick Joyner, who agreed storms don’t “happen by accident.”

Likewise, Pastor Kevin Swanson has said the path of Hurricane Irma would be altered by God if the Supreme Court quickly made abortion and gay marriage illegal, “before Irma does her damage,” as Right Wing Watch noted.

Radio preacher Rick Wiles, likewise, said Houston is underwater because it “boasted of its LGBT devotion.” And Ann Coulter — bless her — suggested it might have something to do with the city’s former mayor being a lesbian. “I don’t believe Hurricane Harvey is God’s punishment for Houston electing a lesbian mayor,” she tweeted. “But that is more credible than ‘climate change.’ ”

Where there is mischief, there is Rush Limbaugh, declaring that Irma is not an act of God but a case of liberal media hype to make people believe that climate change is real. “There is a desire to advance this climate change agenda, and hurricanes are one of the fastest and best ways to do it,” he argued, claiming that “hurricanes are always forecast to hit major population centers.” (That puts Limbaugh in company with Alex Jones, a conspiracy theorist popular with President Trump, who wanted to know why the government didn’t use “technologies” to kill the storm before it made landfall.)

But the particulars of Irma and Harvey make it more difficult to assert that they are the work of a wrathful God. The country is now run by a Republican president who enjoys the support of many conservative evangelical Christian leaders. Texas and Florida, the two states most affected by the storms, both voted Republican last year. The governor and lieutenant governor of Texas have championed social-conservative causes. God swamped Republican areas around Houston just as He swamped the city. And Houston voters aren’t exactly liberal: In 2015 they defeated an anti-discrimination ordinance that would have protected gay people.

This could explain why some of the most prominent members of the wrathful-God school have been reluctant to see divine judgment at work in Irma and Harvey.

Pat Robertson, who saw God’s hand in the Haiti and San Fernando Valley earthquakes, has also said U.S. political pressure on Israel causes natural disasters in the United States, and he warned that gay tourists at Disney World could cause a meteor strike. But he has been quiet about Harvey and Irma.

Focus on the Family’s James Dobson, who blamed the Sandy Hook school shooting on tolerance of gay marriage and abortion, has made no similar claims this time.

The Religion News Service noted that “where conservative Christian leaders have sometimes apportioned blame for natural disasters, some are now publicly cautioning against it.”

Michael Brown, a member of Trump’s evangelical advisory board, cautioned that “we must be very careful before we make divine pronouncements about hurricanes and other natural disasters,” and he said Houston was “one of the few cities that has stood bravely against the rising tide of LGBT activism. Why would God single out Houston for judgment?”

Unless — heaven forbid — God supports the rising tide of LGBT activism?

It’s specious and irresponsible, of course, to claim that God is directing weather patterns to make political statements. But let’s do it anyway. Using the theological reasoning of Bakker, Robertson, et alia, it seems reasonable to conclude that hurricanes Harvey and Irma are God’s punishment for:

President Trump.

The GOP Congress.

Ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program for “dreamers” (further evidence: Hurricane Jose).

Pardoning Joe Arpaio.

Firing James B. Comey.

Jeff Sessions threatening to prosecute reporters.

Anthony Scaramucci.

Sebastian Gorka.

Joel Osteen.

Trump’s speech in Phoenix.

Staff cuts at the Environmental Protection Agency.

Betsy Devos’s Title IX policy.

Ryan Zinke’s national-monument policy.


Trump’s proposed tax cuts.

Texas calling a special session of the legislature to take up an anti-transgender bill.

Facebook accepting political ads from Russia.

Or we could skip all that and just accept that it’s God’s punishment for climate change. That, and the lesbian former mayor of Houston.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

I don't see any references to creationism or evolution in your article.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-11   9:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

So can I blame God for the harsh winter I have been experiencing? No, I think not. God visits rain on the just and the unjust, what you are suggesting is the way out of a drought is to embrace homosexuality, clearly this is nonsense.

Climate change brings its own punishments, there is no need for God to act, he has already told us all this will pass away. We may not like that message, but there it is. I try to stay a long way from low lying land

paraclete  posted on  2017-09-11   9:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: paraclete (#2)

So can I blame God for the harsh winter I have been experiencing? No, I think not. God visits rain on the just and the unjust, what you are suggesting is the way out of a drought is to embrace homosexuality, clearly this is nonsense. Climate change brings its own punishments, there is no need for God to act, he has already told us all this will pass away. We may not like that message, but there it is. I try to stay a long way from low lying land

Yeah, that was quite a normal and sane response to 'click bait' WaPo rubbish regurgitated by Willie.

Meaning, thank you for the response, but don't expect Willie to respond in kind back to you. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-11   10:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

Focus on the Family’s James Dobson, who blamed the Sandy Hook school shooting on tolerance of gay marriage and abortion, has made no similar claims this time.

No he did not. The Huff and Puff Po made that claim using their 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon investigative journalism.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-11   10:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: Tooconservative (#1) (Edited)

I don't see any references to creationism or evolution in your article.

I let the computer pick it automagically...
If you don't like it, complain to Neil McIver. It's all his fault.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-09-11   11:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: Willie Green, Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#5)

You like to blame others for your mistakes, don't you?

Of course, LF's article categories are an awful wasteland when you try to decide what category to put something in.

Maybe we should look through them.

51[New Category Name]Obviously, created by mistake and never removed
1International NewsOK
2United States NewsOK
50The Establishments war on Donald TrumpCould be better named
31Video and AudioRarely used, for whatever reason
44WORLD WAR IIINot sure what it is for.
7U.S. ConstitutionOK, maybe better as "Constitution and judiciary". Or "Constitution and black-robed tyrants".
49The Left's War On ChristiansI'd call it "Christian Persecution". Then you could include stories about Christians suffering overseas as well.
3New World OrderKinda vague, I doubt people know what it's for. It's been a long time since Spook Daddy Bush muttered about a New World Order and a Thousand Points Of Light. Just seems very dated.
42Watching The CopsI'd consider "Copwatch" or just "Police"
4Bush WarsBush Wars became 0bama Wars and now Trump Wars, maybe "War and Rumors of War"
36Obama WarsSame as above Bush Wars
40LEFT WING LOONSOK but I wouldn't use ALL CAPS.
35I AM A PROPHET and I prophesyMore caps, not sure if LF really needs a vanity prophets category, despite a memorable recent thread in this category. Why invite these nuts here?
5Mexican InvasionDoesn't account for all the non-Mexican border jumpers. I also put EU migrant stories in this category when I post one. Maybe it should be "Border Invasion" or something a little more generic.
6Corrupt GovernmentOK
8Satans Mark/CashlessPretty rare to get an article here.
9Poison WatchSeriously? What poison?
10Bang / GunsOK
12Bible StudySeldom used, could be merged with Religion, I think.
24How ToIt's been used a few times for actual how-to articles but mostly not.
47The Democrats War On WomenMostly unused even for stories that might warrant it.
30Talk Radio WatchI assume this is for Limbaugh or Levin threads. OK but not used much.
15Science-TechnologyOK but I'd separate it into two categories, both of which are huge
27Weird Stuff/UnexplainedOK, I guess.
22Primative[sic] WeaponsReally? LF has that many articles on primitive weapons?
21Survival SkillsAgain, it's rarely used.
38Economy OK
26Cult WatchDo we get that many articles on JWs, Scientologists, Mormons, Moonies, etc.?
23Computers-HackingI'd call it just "Computers" or merge it into "Technology"
33Health/MedicalI'd make two categories, "Health" and "Medical". There is a difference.
41politics and politiciansOK but I'd correct the capitalization.
19Alternative EnergiesKind of minor news without a lot of stories but OK.
29The Water CoolerOK
34HistoricalSeldom used and most history stories like archaeology or historical research don't end up here.
46Anti Jew PropagandaWhat, just ADL press releases? Seldom used.
20911I'd call it "9/11".
32911 Audio and videoWe need a "911" and a "911 Audio and Video" category? Really?
25User Submitted ArticleI'd call this one "Vanities". In part, to discourage people from posting them.
18Leak a documentHas anyone ever leaked a document to LF? I can't recall it.
45BANNED AT LIBERTYPOSTAll caps. And LP has been closed for years now.
17OtherLOL. OK.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-11   12:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)

You like to blame others for your mistakes, don't you?

Hey, it's not my job to debug & update Neil's software.
If it picks an inappropriate topic, that's his fault, not mine.
I only pick topics when it can't decide and tells me that I have to pick one.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-09-11   16:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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