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Title: Entire Student Section Detained, Forced to Have Blood/Urine Tests After Beer Can Found at Football Game
Source: Activist Post
URL Source: https://www.activistpost.com/2017/0 ... r-can-found-football-game.html
Published: Sep 10, 2017
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2017-09-11 08:36:37 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 298
Comments: 31

Randolph, NJ — Parents of high school teenagers were outraged this weekend after dozens of their children were ordered to undergo forced blood and alcohol tests because officials found a beer can under the stadium during a football game. As parents tried to refuse the tests, they were told their children would be suspended for noncompliance.

Naturally, school officials are claiming that the forced blood and urine samples, taken under the threat of suspension, were done in the name of child safety.

According to a letter from Randolph Superintendent Jennifer Fano, the school is charged with enforcing the policy of mass drug tests for suspicion of drug or alcohol use among students.

The law requires that we send students out to be tested when it appears that they may be under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Given the events in question, the students in this area of the stadium were brought in to the school, separated into classrooms, and parents were contacted to pick their child up and have them screened. District policy and regulation states that failure to comply with a screening is deemed a positive test result and will result in a suspension from school.

After the can of beer was found, roughly 75 students were taken from the game and detained in classrooms where their parents were called and told they must comply with the tests. Noncompliance meant that the student would be automatically assumed guilty and face the consequences of a crime that they may or may not have actually committed.

According to a public Facebook post by Randolph High School student and Class of 2018 President Nate Pangaro,

Before the game could begin, an administrator went to the front and told everyone to be quiet. He announced that he found an opened beer can on the ground that rolled to him, and that someone should confess to (whose) it was before everyone was taken in for a breathalyzer test. No one confessed, so people went into the school each row at a time to be tested.

Some parents were outraged by the incident, according to DailyRecord.com.

“Everybody was just so confused, miscommunication,” said parent Stephanie Pangaro. “As a parent, you’re going to defend your child to the fullest when you know they’re innocent.”

The sheer number of students having to go out and get blood and urine tests overwhelmed the medical systems in town.

“Students then proceeded to emergency rooms in Dover, Denville, Morristown and Livingston,” Christopher C. Treston, a school board candidate, posted on his campaign Facebook page. “The emergency departments at Dover and at Morristown were not given any warning of what was coming, and were overwhelmed.”

As the Daily Record reports, Sheryll Lynne Penney, a former Randolph PTO president and mother of a 2017 Randolph High graduate, spoke exclusively in that capacity with the Daily Record. Penney said she had been contacted by several parents who expressed similar confusion and anger. Those parents said they believed their constitutional rights, as well as the rights of their children, had been violated.

“The students sign a code of conduct and they need to be held accountable, but so does the administration for handling the situation professionally,” Penney said.

In spite of forcing all 75 students to submit to unconstitutional blood and urine tests, only five students were found to have had alcohol in their bloodstream.

“Let me be very clear: teenage drinking is a serious problem, and it did in fact occur at our school on Friday night,”  Treston wrote. “Our process of preventing backpacks, bottles and cans from entering the stadium broke down. In addition, some number of students arrived intoxicated. We owe it to the community to identify such students, and to protect them and the community. But, we also need to do it in a way that protects the rights and dignity of the student body. When the accused-but-innocent outnumber the guilty 16 to one, we probably did it wrong.”

What this policy does is condition students to think that it’s okay to violate the rights of the innocent in order to catch a few people who may be breaking the rules—a dangerous path—and one the U.S. has been traveling down for far too long.

Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project. Follow @MattAgorist on Twitter, Steemit, and now on Facebook. This article first appeared at The Free Thought Project.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

As parents tried to refuse the tests, they were told their children would be suspended for noncompliance.

HOW is that even legally possible? It was a public school,right? Citizens pay taxes to support public schools,and the public schools are supposed to answer to the school boards,that answer to the citizens.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-11   9:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

In spite of forcing all 75 students to submit to unconstitutional blood and urine tests, only five students were found to have had alcohol in their bloodstream.

So the parents are upset and outraged? Well, I hope all that anger is directed at the five students who brought this on. They were given the opportunity to take responsibility for their action (thereby sparing the rest of the students) but they chose to hide like cowards, forcing the school to test everyone.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-11   9:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2) (Edited)

Well, I hope all that anger is directed at the five students who brought this on.

No the students did not "bring this on" - it was an empty beer can that caused the school to go full-blown totalitarian on the kids. Someone found an empty fucking beer can! EMPTY - it could have been there for months.

WTF man? I can't say I'm surprised that you applaud this.

The law requires that we send students out to be tested when it appears that they may be under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

The presence of an empty beer can does not prove anyone had been drinking and thus does not give the school the right to conduct this massive invasion of privacy.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-11   10:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#3)

The presence of an empty beer can does not prove anyone had been drinking and thus does not give the school the right to conduct this massive invasion of privacy.

Correct. But is does provide reasonable suspicion, doesn't it? And testing showed that 5 students WERE drinking.

Poor you.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-11   11:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4) (Edited)

But is does provide reasonable suspicion, doesn't it?

No it does not - the can could have been there for weeks or months. It could have been drunk by an adult, but hey - don't let that stop you fascists from accusing EVERY student at the game of drinking.

And testing showed that 5 students WERE drinking.

70 were not drinking.

"When the accused-but-innocent outnumber the guilty 16 to one, we probably did it wrong.”

Surely even you would agree.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-11   11:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#4)

And testing showed that 5 students WERE drinking.

Five students drank that one beer?

As the article said, most of them had been drinking prior to the game.

And if that is true, then we can't rule out that all of them had drank prior to the game and that the beer can was there for a longer period, was dropped by an adult, etc. Meaning you can't justify testing the students at all.

I don't see where the five students who were caught with alcohol in their blood gave any probable cause for a blood draw.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-11   11:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)

The presence of an empty beer can does not prove anyone had been drinking and thus does not give the school the right to conduct this massive invasion of privacy.

Does not prove? If the empty beer can proved anything there would be no need to test the students. Putting the cart before the horse again?

The empty beer can provided reasonable suspicion -- a suspicion which proved right.

"As the article said, most of them had been drinking prior to the game."

That might be relevant if school policy only covered drinking AT the game. According to the article, "The law requires that we send students out to be tested when it appears that they may be under the influence of drugs or alcohol."

But that's not my point. My point was at the time they knew everyone was going to be tested, these five cowards refused to to to do the right thing, step forward, and take personal responsibility for their actions. By their refusal, THEY were the ones responsible for the testing.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-11   12:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#5)

don't let that stop you fascists from accusing EVERY student at the game of drinking.

Every? The school only had 75 students? You lie once again.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-11   12:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#7)

The empty beer can provided reasonable suspicion -- a suspicion which proved right.

School officials later claimed they had found a few other beverage containers. Also, that they had found Facebook posts showing that some of the students who were caught drinking had photos of them at a house party prior to the game.

It will be interesting to see what the ACLU can make of this case in court. They're trolling for plaintiffs now and have some bites. Also, what about the two Court decisions on warrantless blood draws? I'd like to see those brought into play.

In addition, the school policy only calls for urinalysis, not blood draws. It was the hospital emergency rooms that decided to take blood when the school never asked for blood. So what is the hospital liability for drawing blood when no one requested it?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-11   12:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Also, what about the two Court decisions on warrantless blood draws?

Different rules for schools. New Jersey v. T.L.O., 469 U.S. 325 (1985). The Court held that while the Fourth Amendment's prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures applies to public school officials, they may conduct reasonable warrantless searches of students under their authority notwithstanding the probable cause standard that would normally apply to searches under the Fourth Amendment."

"It was the hospital emergency rooms that decided to take blood when the school never asked for blood. So what is the hospital liability for drawing blood when no one requested it?"

Don't know.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-11   14:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#10) (Edited)

Don't know.

I know the hospitals drew blood without a warrant and without any request for blood and without probable cause for any given student in their care.

I'd expect a swarm of scum-sucking ambulance chasers to descend upon them. But it is New Jersey, notorious for over a century as the most fascist state in the entire union. NJ has long opposed civil rights of any kind, more so than any state in the old Confederacy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-11   15:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

Are you shitting me ?? All this hoopla, and panties in a wad over 1, One stinking beer ? What a bunch of Drama Queens !!!

When I was in High School, I was in the Band. It was very common for many to have a 1/2 pint of Bourbon in their jacket. During cold nights at football games, it would keep you warm, and also a Majorette, or a Cheerleader, or maybe the blond flute player. Jeez, those clowns need to get a life. That is probably what the problem is. Those raising hell never got laid when they were in school. lol

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Stoner  posted on  2017-09-12   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#11)

I know the hospitals drew blood without a warrant and without any request for blood and without probable cause for any given student in their care.

Uh, the custodial parents volunteered. They could have said no.

[Article] As parents tried to refuse the tests, they were told their children would be suspended for noncompliance.

Naturally, school officials are claiming that the forced blood and urine samples, taken under the threat of suspension, were done in the name of child safety.

School policy was cited and parental consent was given.

[Article] After the can of beer was found, roughly 75 students were taken from the game and detained in classrooms where their parents were called and told they must comply with the tests. Noncompliance meant that the student would be automatically assumed guilty and face the consequences of a crime that they may or may not have actually committed.

Leave it to Matt Agorist. NOT a crime. A violation of school policy resulting in a suspension.

[Article] parents were contacted to pick their child up and have them screened.

It sounds like the parents took them to get screened.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-12   22:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#13) (Edited)

School policy was cited and parental consent was given.

I dunno. The school policy was no breathalyzers, urine samples only.

The hospitals insisted on taking blood which, as we know, is considered an invasive procedure according to USSC rulings.

I'd think that some shyster would be ready to sue for the parents or student(s).

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-12   22:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan, misterwhite (#13)

Your remarks suddenly reminded me of something.

Why did these parents make themselves so available?

My nephew once wrapped his car around a light pole at the local Walmart parking lot, flipping kiddies on the ice at 2am. He just happened to disappear for about 5 hours before he showed up to talk to the cops.

A classmate of mine had a son who was out partying late at night. Wrecked a brand-new pickup on his way home. He just happened to be unavailable for 4-5 hours afterward, saying he got lost down by the creek. Had half the county out searching for him.

Heh-heh. Don't be too available to the po-lice for blood draws.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-12   22:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#14)

The hospitals insisted on taking blood which, as we know, is considered an invasive procedure according to USSC rulings.

The hospitals did not force them to request the screening or to submit to a screening. From what I read, the hospitals did not even know they were coming.

Maybe there is a lawsuit for the initial false arrest. There were students at a ball game, not at class.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-13   2:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#7)

My point was at the time they knew everyone was going to be tested, these five cowards refused to to to do the right thing, step forward, and take personal responsibility for their actions. By their refusal, THEY were the ones responsible for the testing.

You're assuming they drank at the game. When asked about the beer can they may have believed they were talking about beer. What if they all were drinking from a pint of whiskey prior to arriving?

The ones responsible for the testing were the people who conducted the test and demanded it.

It seems you kneel at the feet of a badge - or a rule - or a regulation.

I think all of the kids should leave the school/prison and be free.

ironalek  posted on  2017-09-13   7:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: ironalek (#17)

It seems you kneel at the feet of a badge - or a rule - or a regulation.

In your 13th post since joining the forum in December 2015, you have correctly perceived misterwhite's fundamental bias. He craves this stuff, like some kind of police state masochist.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   8:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tooconservative (#18)

I was on LibertyPost for quite a while. I don't spend as much time on the interwebs as I used to. Gotta work for a living, dontcha know?

ironalek  posted on  2017-09-13   8:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: ironalek (#19)

I was on LibertyPost for quite a while.

Yeah, I thought I recognized your handle. I'll offer a belated "Welcome to LF" then.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   8:37:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: ironalek (#17)

You're assuming they drank at the game.

No. The presence of a beer can under the bleachers where 75 students were sitting led school authorities to believe someone had been drinking.

"When asked about the beer can they may have believed they were talking about beer."

Or they may have been asked, "Who's been drinking?"

"What if they all were drinking from a pint of whiskey prior to arriving?"

Oh. Well. That's different. Of course underage students can be allowed to drink whiskey then go to the game.

"The ones responsible for the testing were the people who conducted the test and demanded it."

Everyone knew the rules. At that point, the five students who drank whatever and wherever knew the jig was up. Yet these five cowards refused to step forward and take personal responsibility for their actions, resulting in the needless testing of the other 70.

"It seems you kneel at the feet of a badge - or a rule - or a regulation."

Unlike you, obviously, I believe in the rule of law. If the parents and the school want to change school policy and not test these children for drugs and alcohol, they're free to do so.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-13   10:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: ironalek (#17)

You're assuming they drank at the game.

From the article:

"Before the game could begin, an administrator went to the front and told everyone to be quiet. He announced that he found an opened beer can on the ground that rolled to him."

Now ... it's possible someone found an empty beer can on the way to the game, picked it up, then later rolled it on the the the ground to where a school administrator was sitting. Ya think? Or does Occam's Razor say that maybe, perhaps, a student was drinking at the game?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-13   10:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite, ironalek (#22)

perhaps, a student was drinking at the game?

Oh FFS! Send in the National Guard! A beer can was found at a football game!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-13   10:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#23)

A beer can was found at a football game!

No. An empty beer can was found at a high school football game where 75 underage high school children were sitting.

How many empty beer cans would it take for you to do any investigating, given that you are charged with enforcing the school's 'no alcohol' policy?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-13   11:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#24)

No. An empty beer can was found at a high school football game where 75 underage high school children were sitting.

I recall some years back a minor local uproar because the husband of a local school board member supplied all the beer for a kegger for the HS students. He was popular with the kids. Much less so with 75% of the rather conservative parents.

Before it was done, the local media was involved with television coverage including video of the superintendent peering out between his blinds to see if the Mean Reporters had gone away yet and stopped asking Pesky Questions.

In short, it was a genuine brouhaha in Hooterville. A lot of stink and gossip but no real action as a result. However, adults didn't hand out adult beverages to kids after that for some time. So I guess it worked out.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-13   12:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative (#25)

I recall some years back a minor local uproar because the husband of a local school board member supplied all the beer for a kegger for the HS students.

From what I've read, you can pretty much get away with that as long as nothing happens at the party. If some girl gets assaulted, a fight breaks out, some kid gets hurt, police are called, etc., the adult who provided the alcohol is screwed.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-13   17:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: misterwhite (#21)

Unlike you, obviously, I believe in the rule of law. If the parents and the school want to change school policy and not test these children for drugs and alcohol, they're free to do so.

No, you believe in tyranny at the local level.

ironalek  posted on  2017-09-14   6:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: misterwhite (#21)

I believe in the rule of law.

You would be an eager enforcer of Nuremberg Race Laws.

A Pole  posted on  2017-09-14   7:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A Pole (#28)

You would be an eager enforcer of Nuremberg Race Laws.

Our Jim Crow laws were very similar.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-14   10:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: ironalek (#27)

No, you believe in tyranny at the local level.

Tyranny works well with children. Giving them a vote just won't work.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-14   10:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: misterwhite (#30) (Edited)

Tyranny works well with children. Giving them a vote just won't work.

I think they would vote wiser than you.

I guess you were treated tyrannically in your childhood, so you are rehearsing your traumatic experience as a tormentor to be in control.

A Pole  posted on  2017-09-14   13:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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