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Title: 25 Years Ago, the Federal Govt Changed its Rules to Launch a Sniper Attack on Off-Grid Family
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/25-years-ruby-ridge/
Published: Aug 21, 2017
Author: Claire Bernish
Post Date: 2017-08-22 09:40:21 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 9536
Comments: 44

Randall and Vicki Weaver and their children wanted nothing more than to be left to live an isolated life in peace in their cabin enclave on a northern Idaho mountaintop called Ruby Ridge. Untrusting of the federal government and of the belief society had taken an insurmountable turn for the worse, the Weavers — as many residents in the remote and breathtaking area — taught their children to be self-sufficient and defend themselves with firearms from unwanted intrusions onto the family’s property.

But the Weaver’s seemingly idyllic life came to an appallingly violent end over several hours from August 21 to 22, 1992, in a horrendously botched federal raid that would also profoundly alter perceptions about the U.S. government in the minds of even ordinary Americans.

Often afterward reported to be white supremacists, the Weavers considered themselves race “separatists” only — and intended no harm against others beyond that belief — though their stance often included the company of people with a more vehement ideology.

Regardless of the Weavers’ beliefs, the account of what federal agents perpetrated against the family under the premise of affecting law enforcement action implores Americans of every race to consider the telling outcome of untrammeled government power run amok.

In 1989, Randall “Randy” Weaver came under the scrutiny of federal agents intent on infiltrating sometimes-violent white supremacist organizations like the Aryan Nations — and eventually wound up charged for selling two illegal sawed-off shotguns to an undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms [now, also, explosives] (ATF).

Weaver, notably, claimed he had been set up — thus flatly refusing the government’s offer to drop the charges if he would turn informant, feeding the feds information about various Aryan Nations members — and was indicted in December the following year.

Though Weaver’s insistence about the set-up leaves his failure to show up for a scheduled court date in February 1991 an altogether open question, a clerical error marking that court date for March didn’t prevent authorities from issuing a warrant for his arrest.

Knowing the Weavers possessed a relative arsenal — which Randall, Vicki, and their children were well-trained how to use — agents weren’t entirely sure how to carry out the warrant and so began intense surveillance of the family’s mountain home while carefully formulating a plan of action.

During this period, Vicki reportedly penned several darkly but vaguely threatening letters to federal agents, containing phrases such as “the tyrant’s blood will flow.”

Considering the family originally relocated to their outpost over mistrust of the government coupled with Randall’s claims concerning the charges which ultimately generated the warrant, Vicki’s language is understandable.

Remember, whatever narrative about dangerous white separatists federal officials proffered about the Weaver family, Randall had only sold — under questionable circumstances — two sawed-off shotguns to a federal agent, and his failure to appear in court, for all intents and purposes, was the fault of the court clerk’s ultimately egregious error.

All in all, an isolationist family on a remote mountain hardly posed an imminent threat to anyone.

Nonetheless, federal marshals set in motion a plan in August 1992 that would send shockwaves across the country and around the world for its deadly ineptitude and wholly disproportionate use of force.

On August 21, marshals surprised Randall, his 14-year-old son Sammy, friend of the family Kevin Harrison, and the Weaver’s family dog, Striker, on a road near the family’s property. Though some of what happened next remains a matter of conjecture, the events mark a disturbing turn in the use of force for the purposes of an otherwise relatively innocuous warrant.

A fully camouflage-clad marshal shot and killed Striker — prompting Sammy to return fire at the group of marshals. Shots then rang out from both sides — in the end, both Sammy and U.S. Marshal Michael Degan lay dead. After the brief gun battle, Weaver and Harrison retreated to Ruby Ridge and marshals regrouped, bringing in FBI agents and setting up a sniper to watch movements on the property.

One of the most contentious aspects of following events concerned an abhorrently arbitrary relaxing of the FBI’s rules of engagement to handle the case.

Larry Potts headed the FBI’s criminal division and oversaw the deployment of the agency’s Hostage Rescue Team to break the standoff at Ruby Ridge — but in doing so, loosely nullified longstanding rules of engagement preventing agents from firing in anything other than self-defense. In doing so, Potts created a monstrously rogue agency capable of firing at will — and the results were expectedly disastrous.

Agents were ordered to shoot any armed man on sight — on the Weaver’s private property — and when Randall appeared with a weapon alongside his 16-year-ol daughter Sara and Harris, FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi opened fire, hitting Weaver in the arm.

Weaver, Harris, and Sara sprinted back to the safety of the cabin, but another shot from Horiuchi hit Vicki in the head, killing her as she clutched the couple’s 10-month-old daughter in her arms — but the bullet passed through her and also wounded Harris.

An incredibly tense 11-day standoff ensued, as the terrified survivors holed up in the Ruby Ridge home, but ended when mediators convinced Randall to turn himself in.

Horiuchi later claimed he had not been aware Vicki stood in the doorway when he fired the fatal shot. Though he was charged in 1997 with involuntary manslaughter for the killing of Vicki Weaver, a federal judge dismissed the charges the following year under the controversial alleged immunity of federal officers from state prosecution.

In 2001, a federal appeals court overruled that claim to immunity, stating federal officials who violate the U.S. Constitution can, indeed, be held accountable at the state level — but the Idaho prosecutor never pursued the manslaughter charge.

Randall and Harris both faced murder charges for the death of the federal marshall — but in a surprising move by an Idaho jury, all charges against them were dropped, save the original failure to appear charge against Weaver that generated the fateful warrant.

Surviving members of the Weaver family filed a wrongful death lawsuit, and in 1995, the patriarch received $100,000 and three of his daughters, $1 million each.

To this day, the grievous abuse of power fuels doubt in segments of the public about federal agencies’ ability to restrain itself in the use of unnecessary force disproportionate to putative threats.

Though the enormity of consequences of Ruby Ridge certainly echoed far into the future, the events have unfortunately sometimes been clouded by the Weaver family’s controversial ideologies. But those beliefs — as the families of countless other victims of a growing epidemic of state violence can attest — are of little consequence when the government acts with reckless impunity against a wide range of people from grossly different backgrounds.

Agents participating in and overseeing the siege of Ruby Ridge forced a sweeping internal investigation and concurrent reevaluation of policy — particularly due to the removal of imperative rules of engagement meant to protect civilians from the exact massacre that took place there.

And as is widely known, when the government receives the green light to abandon strictures protecting the public one time, it’s virtually guaranteed to happen again. As testament to this, the deadly and terroristic siege in Waco, Texas, by federal agents occurred shortly after the incident at Ruby Ridge.

On the 20th anniversary of her mother’s and brother’s murder by agents of the government, Sara Weaver poignantly recalled the harrowing details of her experience in an interview with the Associated Press — though she noted her father refuses to do the same. Losing her mother, who was indeed unarmed when she was killed, has been the most difficult aspect for Sara to come to terms with.

“We miss her terribly,” Sara lamented. “It never goes away.”

Despite the unprecedented mishandling, the payout to the surviving Weaver family, and the sh*tstorm of debate and controversy ensuing from the incident at Ruby Ridge, the government has never fully admitted any wrongdoing in the case.

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#28. To: Deckard (#0)

People died, it happens to everyone on a long enough time frame our life expectancy is zero. Shooting at intruders and dying for it, is a helluva way to go out. A lot better than living with cancer, or holed up in an apartment building surrounded by drug addicts ruled over by Commie tyrants. After a person dies and looks back, what will they be most proud of? Living a long time? Or living as they believed? In a Universe where time has no meaning, death is nothing but a "pulling off of a band-aid from a childs owie." Does anyone remember that traumatic event of Mom removing a bandage from a scrape? It sure hurt....you think.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-08-24   17:31:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jeremiad (#28)

People died, it happens to everyone on a long enough time frame our life expectancy is zero. Shooting at intruders and dying for it, is a helluva way to go out. A lot better than living with cancer, or holed up in an apartment building surrounded by drug addicts ruled over by Commie tyrants. After a person dies and looks back, what will they be most proud of? Living a long time? Or living as they believed? In a Universe where time has no meaning, death is nothing but a "pulling off of a band-aid from a childs owie." Does anyone remember that traumatic event of Mom removing a bandage from a scrape? It sure hurt....you think.

If it were as simple as that, sure. But it's not. Yes, we do indeed go on after death, but we are not the prince of this world (if we were, we would not die), and we're neither prince nor judge in the afterlife either. Our Creator is there, and he is opinionated.

So, while WE may feel as though going out in a blaze of glory is the best thing of all - given that we are about to end - truth is, we are NOT about to end at all, and when we step through the other side, we're accountable for how we went out and what we did on the way out. And that changes the equation.

We will be judged, there, by whether what we did was justified, not by OUR standards, but by the judge's standards. So if we, with terminal cancer, work ourselves into a froth and decide to go strike at somebody political, because we have decided in our own self-righteousness that he is a "tyrant", and then we go act as judge, jury and executioner, we had better hope that the judge who awaits us on the other side agrees that tyrants should die by the hands of men, and even if that is the standard of the judge, mthat the particular man you killed really was a tyrant - not in your opinion, but the opinion of the judge.

In other words, for our own sake we had best tread very lightly on matters of death and judgment.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-08-24   18:17:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

I agree, if we go looking for a tyrant to "take care of".

When the tyrant comes to you looking to destroy the quiet life you have built....... Quite frankly that is the problem, not enough "revenue agents" buried in the back yards of citizens for "overstepping" their power.

The quandary we now face is how do we roll back the tyrants power without committing acts of violence or murder.

Who else can decide if a tyrant is a tyrant but someone under his boot? Another riddle.

There is no Justice, anyone with a scintilla of brain power can cite chapter and verse how the courts have become something that is more akin to a Casino with hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of dollars needed to enter the door and have a chance at a fair and equitable outcome.

Again, what do you do? Say it is a State agent telling you that to take your child who is seriously ill, out of the care of a hospital, and move her to another in hopes of solutions instead of treatment?

There are simply times when there is no doubt that God himself would look kindly on action, or neutrality. Men do have Natural rights. Just because courts have forgotten where the law comes from, does not mean The Almighty has.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-08-27   13:03:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: jeremiad (#33)

I agree, if we go looking for a tyrant to "take care of".

When the tyrant comes to you looking to destroy the quiet life you have built....... Quite frankly that is the problem, not enough "revenue agents" buried in the back yards of citizens for "overstepping" their power.

The quandary we now face is how do we roll back the tyrants power without committing acts of violence or murder.

Who else can decide if a tyrant is a tyrant but someone under his boot? Another riddle.

There is no Justice, anyone with a scintilla of brain power can cite chapter and verse how the courts have become something that is more akin to a Casino with hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of dollars needed to enter the door and have a chance at a fair and equitable outcome.

Again, what do you do? Say it is a State agent telling you that to take your child who is seriously ill, out of the care of a hospital, and move her to another in hopes of solutions instead of treatment?

There are simply times when there is no doubt that God himself would look kindly on action, or neutrality. Men do have Natural rights. Just because courts have forgotten where the law comes from, does not mean The Almighty has.

You will get scant comfort in this life if you look for justification - let alone actual justice - from the real God.

Consider, the real God only fathered one human son, and that son was totally innocent, and God knew it. Yet he made his own son go through two mockeries of a trial, a night of ridicule, and a day of torture and horror - there was no justice at all for his own son on this side of the grave. We have no grounds to expect better treatment (and if we DO expect better treatment, we're fools because God - through his Son - TOLD US that we will be hated and treated terrible and abused by authorities. Indeed, that was an important part of the Son's advice to us to not bother trying to accumulate wealth, status and power on earth, because they will be stolen, taken, ripped away - and Jesus essentially promised that God will do NOTHING AT ALL about ANY of that in THIS life. Indeed, Jesus said to simply ENDURE the injustice of this life, which is very real and bears down on everybody, that you will get no justice here, not from men, and not from God either. Endure it HERE, follow HIS example and be stripped of everything including dignity and life itself, and then, THERE, on the OTHER SIDE of death, you will be rewarded on God. The only thing that God promised THIS world is that it will eventually get its justice by being burnt to a crisp, because NOTHING is just here, NOTHING is without sin.

As if to underline the point, Jesus picked Twelve Apostles. Twelve men who knew him to be the Son of God, who saw his miracles, who believed in him and followed him. They killed nobody, nor did any harm, and did only good to mankind while they lived.

Jesus himself was disgraced, stripped of everything, tried and convicted, though innocent, and then tortured to death. He promised nothing less and nothing more for his followers. His twelve closest, most faithful, and most holy - specially selected by God - friends, the Apostles...what happened to THEM?

Remember, God controls everything, and so God always had the ability to stop all of this.

So let's consider.

Judas: He betrayed Jesus to the Romans, and hanged himself from the guilt.

Peter: Designated leader of the Apostles. Like Jesus, he was crucified by the Romans.

Philip: Like Jesus, he was whipped and then crucified.

Bartholemew: Preached in India. Was skinned alive, then beheaded.

Thomas: Run through with a spear.

Matthew: Stabbed through the back with a sword.

James the Less: Beaten to death with a club

Jude: Crucified.

Simon the Zealot: Crucified.

John: Poisoned but lived, exiled to Patmos, where he died of old age.

God let the apostles be slaughtered, for doing good.

So, have the courts in America become a casino? Yes. The outcomes are often unfair. The police are brutal. The authorities are callous.

To this, I expect Jesus and the Apostles would say: So what? Anybody being crucified? Anybody being whipped, nearly to death, and THEN crucified? Anybody being skinned alive? No? Well, then America's system of justice is not nearly as brutal or unjust or horrific as the Roman system that Jesus and his Apostles faced. God let Rome devour Jesus and the Apostles in an unjust system, and Jesus told people to pay their taxes...to Rome!

So no, I don't think that God will look with any favor upon Americans who, unjustly treated in property, taxes and revolution, decide they may attack and kill their unjust authorities. Here is not as bad as Rome was, and Jesus and the Apostles said to obey Rome and pay the taxes...and lost their lives at the hands of Rome (and others).

So I think that, really, God's view is just exactly what he said: Life is short and wicked - don't even try to save up money or look for justice from men. They money will be taken, men are wicked. See to it that YOU don't steal or act unjustly or kill, and God will reward YOU in the afterlife for your trust and patience and doing what he said. Take up arms HERE and you face the same fate as the rest of the violent and unjust: God will throw them into the Lake of Fire, where they belong, because they were murderers, liars, cruel and unjust.

God said that the cruelty and injustice of others is to be patiently borne, even expected, and looked at with joy, for it is in enduring that that one experiences the same thing that Jesus and the Apostles suffered, and one shares in their glory in the Afterlife.

Obviously, nobody who doesn't believe in an Afterlife will do this - and that's why the trust - the faith - is required. There are signs in this life that there IS an afterlife and a real reward for doing what Jesus and the Apostles said EVEN THOUGH it is costly in THIS life and there is no reward for it but pain and loss. Those are downpayments on the next life.

That's the deal. It was the deal for Jesus and the Apostles, and there's no reason to believe that God is going to give a BETTER DEAL to other people, all of whom are absolute nobodies and nothings to God when compared to Jesus and his handpicked friends. God saw too it that his own son and all of his friends were physically tortured, all but one to death and all treated with great injustice. The one who hanged himself to avoid the pain of guilt faces suffering without end on the other side. The ones who bore the injustice to the end were rewarded by God. All of those faithful salaried servants of Caesar and the kings who carried out the unjust sentences for pay face the same fate as Judas.

Everybody is given choices. If you choose to take up arms and attack the authorities over money or pride or injustice, then you are taking the path that neither Jesus nor any of his 12 friends did, and you're doing things the opposite of what he said to do. They followed what he said. You'll be striking out on your own and doing what he said not to do.

I would say, in truth, that the things of this world: money, status, privilege and human justice are not durable, and that the individual can easily lose himself trying to pursue them. Essentially, rebellion means bloodshed over money, and God never authorized it and Jesus warned against it so decisively, I would say that rebellion is really a statement that one does not really believe in Jesus and the Apostles, or anything they said. One doesn't really believe in an afterlife and is firmly rooted in the present, believing that this life is all we have, and so that it's best, right and proper to fight here, and now, understanding that the violence and death that must inevitably come ARE justice, and the only kind of justice we are ever likely to see.

The atheist ought to fight and fight hard. The Christian ought to meekly and passively accept.

The straddle is not useful - indulging in only a little bit of killing over money and justice is likely to get one just as rejected as indulging in a lot of it. While meekly enduring it all is a waste of the chance to be happy if there is no God at all and Jesus and the Apostles are just another Santa Claus fairy tale myth.

As for me? Well, I know from personal experience that God exists, so when I get angry and murderous (as I do), I recognize that if I follow my instincts and impulses I will essentially be doing what Judas did: betraying what I know to be true and, thereby, committing suicide.

I don't find my fellow men to be as certain as I am, and I don't blame people for acting on their incertitude. But I'm afraid that God does blame them.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-08-28   10:45:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Vicomte13 (#34)

I don't find my fellow men to be as certain as I am, and I don't blame people for acting on their incertitude. But I'm afraid that God does blame them.

Given that normal, average parents would not condemn their child to death for failing a science exam, I find it enormously less likely that God would condemn one of His kids to an eternity of torture for failing a theology final.

God is not so petty.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-08-28   10:56:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#36. To: Pinguinite (#35)

Given that normal, average parents would not condemn their child to death for failing a science exam, I find it enormously less likely that God would condemn one of His kids to an eternity of torture for failing a theology final.

God is not so petty.

No. But God does condemn them to death for killing other people. That's the crux of it.

God forbade men to kill men. The only time he authorized them to do it - indeed he COMMANDED that they do it - was when men kill other men. Kill a man, and men are to kill you.

God did not carve out any exceptions. Most specifically, God never authorized men "in authority" to kill other men in order to maintain authority. He ONLY authorized it as punishment for killing other men.

Think about what THAT means for statecraft, for taxation, for property rights, for "the rule of law".

Yes, God isn't going to condemn his children for failing a theology exam. But for killing another man? Look at all of the huge efforts men expend to create phony philosophical arguments as to WHY it's ok for some men to kill other men ("Well, it was WAR" - so that justifies it, does it? Who started the war? Why?)("It was "LAW ENFORCEMENT". Really. And where did God say that some men could kill other men for breaking a man-made law? Crickets (He didn't.))

"Well, look at all of those death penalities in the Old Testament!" Oh yes. But now look and read what it says who they were FOR, and WHERE. And note that nobody could be executed without the testimony of TWO witnesses, and that every witness and judge had to face the same penalty - death - for perjury, and that the witnesses had to THEMSELVES carry out the execution (making them murderers if perjurers).

God is not petty. But when he said not to kill other men except as punishment for killing, he did not make a bunch of convenient excuses. He set a rule that makes human statecraft unsustainable on the traditional path we have followed. Rulers and their police who kill people who are not themselves killers, in order to maintain obedience, are murderers.

Traditional statecraft is contrary to the law of God.

That's the problem, not a theology exam. Those who lust for power won't give up on their powerlust simply because God removed from their toolbox the only effective way to obtain strong dominance over other men.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-08-28 11:33:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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