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Title: *BRUTAL TRUTH DEBATE*: Christian vs. Muslim; Christ vs. Muhammad/Bible vs. Koran (Fascinating Listen)
Source: You Tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVU3 ... ist&p=8DF2F55C1F8C5A75&index=2
Published: Feb 28, 2008
Author: Dave Hunt
Post Date: 2009-12-13 03:17:12 by Liberator
Keywords: Christianity, Islam, debate
Views: 63947
Comments: 164

This is a debate between Dave Hunt and Shabir Ally in Toronto Canada in 2008. Christianity vs. Islam.

Hunt's credentials and scholarship are impeccable as is his courage. As the author of over 4,000,000 books (of which three I own), you will see and hear him NOT mince any words about the deeply flawed Muhammad, and how deeply flawed the Koran is. No candy-coated PC-Speak here.

He compares and contrasts the Koran vs. Bible convincingly, with conviction and armed with facts. Chances are none of us will ever see another non-compromising debate of this kind ever.

This is Part 3 which blends seamlessly into Part 4, into Part 5 and so on. Hunt's politely yet firmly continues to delve into the stark differences between the two belief systems.

Something to learn for everyone.

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#2. To: All (#0)

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know your self but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle ~ The Art of War, Sun Tzu

Is terrorism the enemy or is Islam the enemy – “Both” is not an answer.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2009-12-13   3:43:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tater (#2)

The answer is that islam IS terrorism.

Is the concept of "Dar al-islam" and "Dar al-Harb" too complex for your "mind"?

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-13   4:16:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mad Dog (#4)

The answer is that islam IS terrorism.

Is the concept of "Dar al-islam" and "Dar al-Harb" too complex for your "mind"?

That can't possibly be true.

Do you know the definiton of "terrorism?"

And a stupid, adolescent attempt at sarcasm does nothing for me.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2009-12-13   4:35:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tater (#5)

You are just another ignorant fool or a whore for islam.

Do you even know what islam and it's "holy" books teach about how moo slums MUST treat ALL non- islamic peoples of the world?

Do you even know what islam's own histories say about what it has done to the "dar al-harb"?

It certainly IS true that for ALL non-islamic peoples of the world, and for most islamic peoples of the world, islam IS 'terrorism". (What is the punishment for conversion from islam genius?, how are islam's women and children treated like genius?)

I wouldn't rate your intellect nearly as high as that of even a stoned "adolescent", and I d@mned sure don't care what it "does" for you chump.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-13   4:47:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mad Dog (#6)

Islam is a religion – Terrorism is a tactic.

Terrorism is a tactic and not an ideology.

Which means there is no such thing as the “war on terrorism” because you cannot have a “war on a tactic?”

Instead of a “war on terrorism,” there is a “war against Islamic extremists” that uses terrorism as one of their tactics.

This “war” won't go anywhere, though, without some understanding of the motivations of the terrorists.

Why are they employing the tactic of terrorism and what do they hope to achieve?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2009-12-13   4:53:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Tater (#7)

Islam is a religion – Terrorism is a tactic.

Not THE issue here, though as established earlier, Islam is now synonymous with "Terrorism."

Did you watch ANY of the debate between Hunt and Ally? AT ALL?

Speaking of "debate," your attempt at changing IT and the context to the definition of "terror" ISN'T what the video debate was about.

Ally (the Muslim) was actually a very articulate debater...But the best he could do in defense of yesterday's, today's and tomorrow's Islamic violence was in citing some of the Old Testament.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-14   0:23:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Liberator (#60)

citing some of the Old Testament

Which is part of the fabric of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. The qur'an, like the Jews, recognize Jesus as a prophet. When Christians strayed from worshipping only God, Muhammad was born to bring the world back to the original religion of Abraham.

Catholics pray to more than just God. Christians idolize Jesus. Jews deny Jesus is God incarnate. Muslims see that as blasphemy. For God is the only one who can be worshipped and followed.

You don't know anything about the various religions of the world except for what your "Christianity" views tell you, nor are you interested in knowing anything as you already believe you know it all. More murders are committed by athiests today than all the religions combined. Yes, more people have died at the hands of the non-religious than the hands of the Muslims.

As I said, I'm not an apologist for anyone, but you sir, are in great denial about who the true enemy is. You are afraid of Muslims. You are a coward, for only a real coward is afraid to admit the real truth about anything.

I bid you a good night and pray you find enlightenment someday. I am done wasting my time.

Can you imagine how Jesus felt while he was trying to teach the non-believers? The ridicule he faced? Being attacked by his own people?

mel  posted on  2009-12-14   0:35:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mel (#66)

The qur'an, like the Jews, recognize Jesus as a prophet.

The Jews are the original "Christians" who believed that Jesus (The Jew of Jews, King of Kings) fulfilled the prophecies as Savior of mankind.

Whether the Koran believe in Christ as A "prophet" has NO bearing on their Cult of Death, Cult of Coercion, Cult of Submission.

When Christians strayed from worshipping only God, Muhammad was born to bring the world back to the original religion of Abraham.

HUH?? (triple eyeball roll)

You don't know anything about the various religions of the world except for what your "Christianity" views tell you, nor are you interested in knowing anything as you already believe you know it all. More murders are committed by athiests today than all the religions combined. Yes, more people have died at the hands of the non-religious than the hands of the Muslims.

Interesting red herrings but a debate for another day...

The subject in this case is with respect to the Cult of Islam, it's Koran, and it's Leader Muhammad and what THEY represent - with historical context - IN CONTRAST TO the message of the Bible and Gospel of Jesus Christ.

If you seek true debate and dual representation (and it's a pretty spirited one from both sides, yet civil), watch the videos of Hunt and Ally.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-14   0:49:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#82. To: Liberator (#76)

If you seek true debate and dual representation

No Lib - I was only interested in your answers to certain questions. It is clear to me that you will never provide them, but thanks anyway. Have a good night.

mel  posted on  2009-12-14 01:00:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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