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Title: *BRUTAL TRUTH DEBATE*: Christian vs. Muslim; Christ vs. Muhammad/Bible vs. Koran (Fascinating Listen)
Source: You Tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVU3 ... ist&p=8DF2F55C1F8C5A75&index=2
Published: Feb 28, 2008
Author: Dave Hunt
Post Date: 2009-12-13 03:17:12 by Liberator
Keywords: Christianity, Islam, debate
Views: 57890
Comments: 164

This is a debate between Dave Hunt and Shabir Ally in Toronto Canada in 2008. Christianity vs. Islam.

Hunt's credentials and scholarship are impeccable as is his courage. As the author of over 4,000,000 books (of which three I own), you will see and hear him NOT mince any words about the deeply flawed Muhammad, and how deeply flawed the Koran is. No candy-coated PC-Speak here.

He compares and contrasts the Koran vs. Bible convincingly, with conviction and armed with facts. Chances are none of us will ever see another non-compromising debate of this kind ever.

This is Part 3 which blends seamlessly into Part 4, into Part 5 and so on. Hunt's politely yet firmly continues to delve into the stark differences between the two belief systems.

Something to learn for everyone.

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#2. To: All (#0)

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know your self but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle ~ The Art of War, Sun Tzu

Is terrorism the enemy or is Islam the enemy – “Both” is not an answer.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2009-12-13   3:43:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tater (#2)

The answer is that islam IS terrorism.

Is the concept of "Dar al-islam" and "Dar al-Harb" too complex for your "mind"?

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-13   4:16:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mad Dog (#4)

The answer is that islam IS terrorism.

Is the concept of "Dar al-islam" and "Dar al-Harb" too complex for your "mind"?

That can't possibly be true.

Do you know the definiton of "terrorism?"

And a stupid, adolescent attempt at sarcasm does nothing for me.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2009-12-13   4:35:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tater (#5)

You are just another ignorant fool or a whore for islam.

Do you even know what islam and it's "holy" books teach about how moo slums MUST treat ALL non- islamic peoples of the world?

Do you even know what islam's own histories say about what it has done to the "dar al-harb"?

It certainly IS true that for ALL non-islamic peoples of the world, and for most islamic peoples of the world, islam IS 'terrorism". (What is the punishment for conversion from islam genius?, how are islam's women and children treated like genius?)

I wouldn't rate your intellect nearly as high as that of even a stoned "adolescent", and I d@mned sure don't care what it "does" for you chump.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-13   4:47:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mad Dog (#6)

Islam is a religion – Terrorism is a tactic.

Terrorism is a tactic and not an ideology.

Which means there is no such thing as the “war on terrorism” because you cannot have a “war on a tactic?”

Instead of a “war on terrorism,” there is a “war against Islamic extremists” that uses terrorism as one of their tactics.

This “war” won't go anywhere, though, without some understanding of the motivations of the terrorists.

Why are they employing the tactic of terrorism and what do they hope to achieve?

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2009-12-13   4:53:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tater (#7)

I'm NOT going to play semantic games with you.

islam is an ideology that poses as a religion that uses terrorism as a means of conquest and control.

Check out the sites that I cited up thread, TRY learning something about islam then I'll talk with you.

They want to make ALL of the world into "dar al-islam".

TRY reading the d@med koran.

I'll reply to your expected answers sometime tomorrow, you caught me as I was going out the door.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-13   5:12:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Mad Dog (#8)

I'll reply to your expected answers sometime tomorrow, you caught me as I was going out the door.

… “expected answers” …

Please don't be surprised when the answers you “expect” do not arrive – and don’t bother to wait for them.

The norm for the practice of social intercourse prohibits me from accepting a bully’s claim that his views are correct or that he has the right to expect anything - because he simply thinks he has the strength and propensity to violence, to attack a poster’s comments.

Therefore, I cannot exchange thoughts and opinions with you until you learn to develop and to exhibit a tone of civility in your approach to sharing information.

Should you have an interest in conducting an intelligent discussion, then I will join you in that and you may now make your attempt at a courteous exchange.

However, if you are interested in continuing to act like an a**, then you are doing an excellent job and you can continue alone in your quest to exceed your current level - and move on to achieve far greater supremacy, but you will do that with someone other than me.

In closing, may I say that evidence of the arrogance you display is exceeded only by your attempt at the use of fevered language.

Good luck – Sir - I wish you well.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2009-12-13   6:10:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: Tater (#10)

MD; I'll reply to your expected answers sometime tomorrow, you caught me as I was going out the door.

T; … “expected answers” …

Please don't be surprised when the answers you “expect” do not arrive – and don’t bother to wait for them.

The norm for the practice of social intercourse prohibits me from accepting a bully’s claim that his views are correct or that he has the right to expect anything - because he simply thinks he has the strength and propensity to violence, to attack a poster’s comments.

Therefore, I cannot exchange thoughts and opinions with you until you learn to develop and to exhibit a tone of civility in your approach to sharing information.

Should you have an interest in conducting an intelligent discussion, then I will join you in that and you may now make your attempt at a courteous exchange.

However, if you are interested in continuing to act like an a**, then you are doing an excellent job and you can continue alone in your quest to exceed your current level - and move on to achieve far greater supremacy, but you will do that with someone other than me.

In closing, may I say that evidence of the arrogance you display is exceeded only by your attempt at the use of fevered language.

Good luck – Sir - I wish you well.

Sigh ...

I meant that I expected you to answer. I made no comment on what you would answer with. I'm not God, I can't see the future.

"Bully"? Why because you pull your ideas about what islam is out of thin air and I have actually READ about it and I actually know what it's history and dogma and traditional practices are and I object to your ignorant nonsense re: islam?

When you want to discuss things it is adult behavior to actually know FACTS about the subject.

It is not a matter of me being "superior" it is about the actual FACTS vice the absolutely brain dead sheeple delusions about a very great threat to US ALL.

I don't give a rusty F if you are offended by me b!tch slapping you with the TRUTH.

Maybe that will wake you up?

What is truly ARROGANT is talking bullsh!t in a life and death matter and then posing as the wronged and offended party when you get called on it.

Grow F ing up.

I also don't give a rusty F if you don't care for my vocabulary and syntax.

"Don't call me Sir, my parents were married."

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-13 15:54:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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