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Title: Pope Francis Adds ‘Fourth Path’ to Official Sainthood
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Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/national-s ... th-path-to-official-sainthood/
Published: Jul 12, 2017
Author: Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.
Post Date: 2017-07-12 13:39:34 by cranky
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Views: 2300
Comments: 14
In a new letter bearing the Latin title Maiorem hac Dilectionem, taken from Jesus’ words that “no one has greater love than the one who lays down his life for his friends,” the Pope has cleared the way to official sainthood for those lay down their lives for someone else out of Christian love in imitation of Jesus Christ. Until now, the two ordinary ways to being declared a saint were martyrdom for Christ and the practice of “heroic virtue.” A third, exceptional way also existed: that of “ancient veneration” of a person as a saint. According to Catholic teaching, every person who goes to heaven is a saint, but a small percentage of these are officially recognized as saints and put forward as examples and models of a closer following of Christ. The new decision follows on a process carried out by the Vatican Congregation for the Causes of Saints, which asked “whether those servants of God are not worthy of beatification who, inspired by the example of Christ, freely and deliberately offered and sacrificed their lives for their brothers and sisters in a supreme act of charity.” While this new “fourth way” of the offering of one’s life closely resembles both the path of martyrdom and that of heroic virtue in certain respects, it has been put forward to underscore a specific form of heroic Christian witness. While resembling martyrdom in the aspect of heroic self-giving up to death, it differs because there is no persecutor who puts the Christian to death out of hatred for the faith. A typical example of this new path to sainthood was the case of the Polish Saint Maximilian Kolbe, who freely offered his life in the Auschwitz concentration camp to save another inmate who had been condemned to death. Kolbe, a Franciscan priest, was arrested by the Gestapo on February 17, 1941 for the crime of harboring Jews. Soon after, he was sent to the Auschwitz concentration camp as prisoner #16670, where he was sentenced to heavy labor. In July of 1941, the Deputy Commander of Auschwitz ordered 10 men to be chosen at random to be starved to death in an underground bunker, in punishment for three prisoners having escaped from the camp. When Franciszek Gajowniczek heard that he had been selected, he cried out “My wife! My children!” At this point, Kolbe stepped forward and volunteered to die in his place. “I am a Catholic priest from Poland; I would like to take his place, because he has a wife and children,” Kolbe said. When Pope John Paul II canonized Maximilian Kolbe in 1982, he departed from protocol and declared Kolbe to be a “martyr,” rather than a “confessor.” According to the new Vatican disposition, Kolbe would have been declared a saint for the fact of offering his life for another. Kolbe is the patron saint of the pro-life movement, and was declared by Pope John Paul to be “the patron saint of our difficult century.” Kolbe’s canonization was attended by Franciszek Gajowniczek, by this time in his 90’s – the man whose place Father Maximilian took in the death cell at Auschwitz. 
Pope Francis has established a new path to canonization as a saint, adding the “free and voluntary offering of one’s life” to the three previously recognized ways to sainthood.
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#1. To: cranky (#0)
We can all be relieved that he didn't also offer self selected martyrs 72 virgins in heaven.
Not the worst thing Frank's done as long as he applies the standard narrowly. In this case, he would seem to be a martyr anyway. It was not certain he would starve in those cells when he took the place of the married father. Overall, it was an exceptional circumstance.
Hearing about the punishment of death by starvation as a reprisal for the escape of some people from Auschwitz just confirms in my mind that we were morally right to have firebombed Dresden. That was the way Germans thought. They started the war. We had a moral duty to wipe that race from the earth until they surrendered utterly, screaming on their knees for mercy. And then we, correctly, systematically executed their leaders. It is good that when we find them, we haul 96 year old men into court and make them suffer and shit themselves while we hold them accountable for their crimes. They do not deserve forgiveness by men, and to the extent we can make them suffer while they are frail and weak, we should make sure that we inflict as much misery as we can on them, if we can find them. No mercy, not in this world, or the next. They went over a line. God may forgive them. I won't. Hunt them down and torture them. Even if they are 100 years old. I don't care. And NEVER apologize for firebombing them and murdering them. They deserved it. All of them. Their lack of pity or reason has turned my heart to stone with regards to them. Had they held out a little longer, we would have been able to use the first atomic bomb on Berlin. And that would have been fun, and just, and good, and utterly righteous. We also should have uprooted all Germans from Bavaria, whence the Nazi party started, and handed everything there over to the Jews as their homeland. Dismembered that part of Germany and forbidden anybody with German blood to ever live there again. Judge them by the standard by which they judged.
Achtung! Fuck you.
I would not go that far. To me, Dresden seems even more questionable than Hiroshima or Nagasaki. You know this is contrary to scripture. I don't have to cite chapter and verse as you do already know this. The New Testament teaches forgiveness, not vengeance.
Per the author, martyrdom requires a 'persecutor who puts the Christian to death out of hatred for the faith'. I'm not sure just being a nazi would qualify though i believe i've read zazis were atheists. that's my story and i'm sticking to it
He did not commit a suicidal act. He didn't offer to be killed in a few minutes to save someone else from a poison gas shower. There was always a chance that something would happen and he would die of natural causes or be rescued or the Nazis could change their minds. I'm assuming that it took at least a week or two to kill these weak camp prisoners. If you don't withdraw water, people can hold on quite a while. I would think that Rome won't want to canonize anyone who got too close to committing suicide. Anyway, I would think they would.
I know it is contrary to scripture. I don't care. My hatred rages as brightly as the Nazis ever did. They murdered the weak because they could. And the Nazi Germans are weaker than Americans and Russians, so our murdering them is every bit as satisfying as they felt dumping the gas on the helpless Jews. Nazis kill Jews because they can. Burn Nazis alive in their houses because WE can. Kill them all. Win. Then go to confession and be very contrite. The camp commander of Auschwitz was contrite and asked God for forgiveness for what he had done. God can forgive him - after I hang him.
You back. Start a war. Kill my people. Lose. Expect to die.
Get your forgiveness from a mythical God, not me. As far as I'm concerned you'll get your head chopped off for crossing the line of justice.
There was always a chance that something would happen and he would die of natural causes or be rescued or the Nazis could change their minds. I'm assuming that it took at least a week or two to kill these weak camp prisoners. If you don't withdraw water, people can hold on quite a while. I would think that Rome won't want to canonize anyone who got too close to committing suicide. Anyway, I would think they would. I don't see ow any of that meets the standard of having a 'persecutor who puts the Christian to death out of hatred for the faith'. I just don't see where this guy's persecutor persecuted him because he of his christian faith. If anything, he was 'persecuted' because three other prisoners escaped and he volunteered to be punished. It is Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D. who asserts martyrdom requires a 'persecutor who puts the Christian to death out of hatred for the faith.', not me. But i'd bet real money he's correct even though i nothing of catholicism. that's my story and i'm sticking to it
You're not mad at Nazis. You're raging against God.
I'm certainly not Catholic but I can see why they want to draw a few very narrow exceptions to the standard rules. The problem is that they'll use it as an excuse to canonize the pope's puppy or something. Like the emperor who made his horse a Roman proconsul. Like the popes who made infants bishops. Including the one young teen bishop who was sent out to speak to the invading barbarian horde in a big plaza full of them and got sodomized by the barbarian leader with all the barbarians watching, laughing and cheering. A good time was had by all except the young bishop. Well...maybe.
Caligula. Terrible movie, worse emperor. that's my story and i'm sticking to it
#2. To: cranky (#0)
#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)
#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)
#5. To: Vicomte13 (#3)
(Edited)
Hearing about the punishment of death by starvation as a reprisal for the escape of some people from Auschwitz just confirms in my mind that we were morally right to have firebombed Dresden.
They went over a line. God may forgive them. I won't. Hunt them down and torture them. Even if they are 100 years old. I don't care.
#6. To: Tooconservative (#2)
In this case, he would seem to be a martyr anyway.
#7. To: cranky (#6)
Per the author, martyrdom requires a 'persecutor who puts the Christian to death out of hatred for the faith'.
#8. To: Tooconservative (#5)
#9. To: Anthem (#4)
(Edited)
Achtung! Fuck you.
#10. To: Tooconservative (#5)
The New Testament teaches forgiveness, not vengeance.
#11. To: Tooconservative (#7)
He did not commit a suicidal act. He didn't offer to be killed in a few minutes to save someone else from a poison gas shower.
#12. To: Vicomte13 (#8)
I know it is contrary to scripture. I don't care.
#13. To: cranky (#11)
It is Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D. who asserts martyrdom requires a 'persecutor who puts the Christian to death out of hatred for the faith.', not me.
#14. To: Tooconservative (#13)
Like the emperor who made his horse a Roman proconsul.
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