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Title: Obama on DC Jihadis: "Fiercely loyal Muslims"
Source: Atlas Shrugs
URL Source: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/ ... is-fiercely-loyal-muslims.html
Published: Dec 11, 2009
Author: staff
Post Date: 2009-12-11 09:48:16 by Joe Snuffy
Keywords: War on Terror, Obama, US Muslim terrorists
Views: 36155
Comments: 91

Obama on DC Jihadis: "Fiercely loyal Muslims"

Crazy, man.

Check out the TOTUS's response today to the devastating news of five DC Muslim students tracked down and arrested in Pakistan. They were plotting jihad. What did Pres Moe say? He speaks about fiercely loyal Muslims ....loyal to whom exactly?

(vid hat tip KGS)

Obama spent a month in Pakistan during his college years ....perhaps he is, uh, sympathetic.

Here is a sampling of different posts in the past three months of fiercely loyal Muslim activity here in the good old USA:

Chicago Muslim Charged In Mumbai Islamic Massacre Planned More Terror Attacks in India

AMERICAN JIHAD: FBI INVESTIGATING 5 MISSING MUSLIM STUDENTS IN DC, POSSIBLE ARREST IN PAKISTAN

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Muslim Sentenced to Six-year jail term in Plot to Blow up Sears Tower: "Islamic terrorism is one of the most tremendous problem that this country now confronts ... this defendant took an oath to Al-Qaeda"

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Massive Muslim Attack Averted: "plot to kill two prominent US politicians and carry out a holy war by attacking shoppers in US malls and American troops in Iraq"

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www.dallasnews.com/shared...ombarrest.1b177db8b.html" target="_blank">FBI arrests Jordanian for downtown Dallas bomb plot...

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www.reuters.com/article/m...ws/idUSN2447383520090924" target="_blank">Illinois man charged in plot to bomb federal offices...

www.reuters.com/article/d...ws/idUSTRE58N6YT20090924" target="_blank">Terror suspects accused of targeting Marine base in Quantico...

cbs3.com/local/SEPTA.Broad.Street.2.1206878.html" target="_blank">Men vanish after taking photos of Philly subway system...

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#1. To: Joe Snuffy (#0)

They were plotting jihad.

It's amazing that most Americans do NOT know what the term Jihad means. If they did, they would stop using it as a terrorist act.

Jihad describes the ethics and morals of the Muslims. Jihad is the internal fight between right and wrong, moral and immoral, selfishness and selflessness, etc. The inner peach and equilibrium is then reflected outward in an attempt to create peace and harmony in society. Jihad is not about waging wars on others. Jihad does promote self-defense.

For all the sick twisted freaks committing acts of violence in the name of Islam, the true Muslims know Allah will send them to hell as they are in direct violation of Allah's commandments given to the people through the prophet Mohammad, recorded in the Qur'an.

Every group of people has extremists that carry out atrocities against other people or even their own people. Some do it in the name of one religion or another and some do it in the name of a race or a country. Some are simply psycho freaks.

mel  posted on  2009-12-11   11:40:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mel (#1)

Jihad describes the ethics and morals of the Muslims. Jihad is the internal fight between right and wrong, moral and immoral, selfishness and selflessness, etc. The inner peach and equilibrium is then reflected outward in an attempt to create peace and harmony in society. Jihad is not about waging wars on others. Jihad does promote self-defense.

Bogus!

Holy Wars. Muhammad believed in holy war (the Jihad). By divine revelation he commanded his followers: “fight in the cause Of God” (sura 2:244). He added, “fight and slay The Pagans wherever ye find them” (sura 9:5). And, “when ye meet The Unbelievers (in fight) Smite at their necks” (sura 47:4). In general, Muslims were to “fight those who believe not In God nor the Last Day” (sura 9:29). Indeed, Paradise is promised for those who fight for God. Sura 3:195 declares: “Those who have left their homes . . . Or fought or been slain,— Verily, I will blot out From them their iniquities, And admit them into Gardens With rivers flowing beneath;—A reward from the Presence Of God, and from His Presence Is the best of rewards” (cf. sura 2:244; 4:95). These “holy wars” were carried out “in the cause Of God” (cf. sura 2:244) against “unbelievers.”

Sura 5:36 declares that “The punishment of those Who wage war against God [i.e., unbelievers] And His Apostle, and strive With might and main For mischief through the land Is: execution, or crucifixion, Or the cutting off of hands And feet from opposite sides, Or exile from the land.” Acknowledging that these are appropriate punishments, depending on “the circumstances,” Ali offers little consolation when he notes that the more cruel forms of Arabian treatment of enemies, such as, “piercing of eyes and leaving the unfortunate victim exposed to a tropical sun,” were abolished! (Ali, 252, 738). Such war on, and persecution of, enemies on religious grounds—by whatever means—is seen by most critics as religious intolerance. In view of these clear commands to use the sword aggressively to spread Islam and Muslim practice down through the centuries, Muslim claims that “this fight is waged solely for the freedom to call men unto God and unto His religion” have a hollow ring (cf. Haykal, 212). Geisler, N. L. (1999). Baker encyclopedia of Christian apologetics. Baker reference library (508). Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Books.

GarySpFC  posted on  2009-12-12   23:54:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: GarySpFC (#77)

Everything you quoted happened in the Bible as well. What's that supposed to prove?

mel  posted on  2009-12-13   0:27:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: mel (#81)

Everything you quoted happened in the Bible as well. What's that supposed to prove?

Let me suggest you learn the difference between the Old Testament and New Testament prior to making that statement.

GarySpFC  posted on  2009-12-13   0:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: GarySpFC (#82)

I know the difference, and thank you for that statement. Jesus changed everything, but Jesus is God. Before Jesus, God didn't know what it was like to actually live on Earth in the flesh. After he sent Jesus, as himself incarnate, his ideas changed. Jesus brought love to the Earth. Jesus taught God to love. Instead of an eye for an eye, it became love thy enemy and turn the other cheek. Jesus was considered a radical by his fellow Jews. Did you know that the name Jesus means God Saves? Jesus also said that it was extremely difficult for the wealthy to enter the kingdom of heaven, as God, the Protector, takes care of physical needs.

I read where the Ten Commandments should no longer be relevent because they are in the Old Testament and the Old Testament is no longer relevent. I don't remember where I saw it, but that's not the case, as Jesus discusses the Ten Commandments as well, in the New Testament.

The only thing odd about the Bible is that it does not tell about Jesus' entire life. Only his birth, him at age 12, and them him at age 30 until his death 3 years later. They did discover other Testaments that are older than those included in the Bible. One of them talks about Jesus making birds from clay as a child and then bringing them to life. There is much more out there than we know. The Bible is not complete.

mel  posted on  2009-12-13   1:29:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#85. To: mel (#83)

I know the difference, and thank you for that statement. Jesus changed everything, but Jesus is God. Before Jesus, God didn't know what it was like to actually live on Earth in the flesh. After he sent Jesus, as himself incarnate, his ideas changed. Jesus brought love to the Earth. Jesus taught God to love. Instead of an eye for an eye, it became love thy enemy and turn the other cheek. Jesus was considered a radical by his fellow Jews. Did you know that the name Jesus means God Saves? Jesus also said that it was extremely difficult for the wealthy to enter the kingdom of heaven, as God, the Protector, takes care of physical needs.

Look up the word immutability, which is one of the attributes of God. It means God does not change.

“Jesus Christ” is a composite name made up of the personal name “Jesus” (from Gk Isous, which transliterates Heb/Aram yšû (a)Ó, a late form of Hebrew yhôšûaÓ, the meaning of which is “YHWH is salvation” or “YHWH saves/has saved”) and the title, assimilated in early Christianity to Jesus as a name, “Christ” (from Gk Christos, which translates Heb mš1a7; and Aram mš17;Ò, signifying “anointed” and referring in the context of eschatological expectation to the royal “son of David”). The name “Jesus Christ” thus binds together the historic figure Jesus with the messianic role and status that early Christian faith attributed to him. In Jesus’ own lifetime, his name, since it was common in Israel, called for a specifier: “Jesus the Galilean” (Matt 26:69; cf. 21:11), or, more often, “Jesus of Nazareth” or “Jesus the Nazarean.”

I read where the Ten Commandments should no longer be relevent because they are in the Old Testament and the Old Testament is no longer relevent. I don't remember where I saw it, but that's not the case, as Jesus discusses the Ten Commandments as well, in the New Testament.

Nine of the Ten were brought over into the New Testament. However, Christians are not saved by obeying any of the Ten or Nine, because they are under grace through faith, and not law.

The only thing odd about the Bible is that it does not tell about Jesus' entire life. Only his birth, him at age 12, and them him at age 30 until his death 3 years later. They did discover other Testaments that are older than those included in the Bible. One of them talks about Jesus making birds from clay as a child and then bringing them to life. There is much more out there than we know. The Bible is not complete.

The Gnostic Texts are not older than the New Testament texts we have today...no way. Furthermore, they contain many errors and are not in harmoney with the New Testament.

Everything is included in the New Testament which is sufficent for salvation.

GarySpFC  posted on  2009-12-13 02:17:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: mel, ALL (#83)

Before Jesus, God didn't know what it was like to actually live on Earth in the flesh.

After he [God the Father and Creator] sent Jesus, as himself incarnate, his ideas changed. Jesus brought love to the Earth. Jesus taught God to love.

Mel, I will say this about you - I admire that you are at least attempting to seek the truth your spirit obviously hungers for...There is a battle being waged over your soul.

But Satan roams the world like a ravenous lion, hoping to deceive and devour us all a thousand different ways every day in the most subtle of ways.

God always was; He was the the same yesterday as today as tomorrow. Jesus as one with His Father and Creator of the Universe could/would not "teach God" a thing.

With all sincerity, I hope the Truth is revealed to you. The mission of Satan is to plant the seed of doubt and diversion, hoping it eventually crowds-out the Lord's seed, young shoot, or even established sapling.

If there was any one book I'd recommend reading, it'd be Dave Hunt's (yes, THAT Dave Hunt) 'Occult Invasion: The Subtle Seduction of the World and Church'

As one reviewer at Amazon described the book:

"Dave Hunt investigates a whole plethora of subjects which are Occult-based or Occult-related."

"These stem from spirit communication & possession, Eastern Mysticism, the New Age movements, Holistic Medicine, Drugs, Evolution, Psychology, aspects of the Catholic Church, UFO's, Angels, Ghosts, Near Death Experiences and Spiritual Warfare, to mention just a few."

It's a fascinating book to read regardless of one's faith.

And then there are even trivial tidbits like this: Did you know the Ouija Board was "invented" to contact the dead of WWI?

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