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Title: Thousands march at Paris Gay Pride to demand procreation for all
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France 24
URL Source: http://www.france24.com/en/20170625 ... arch-demanding-procreation-all
Published: Jun 25, 2017
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2017-06-25 09:42:10 by IbJensen
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Comments: 14
Thousands of people took to the streets of the French capital Saturday for the fortieth Paris Gay Pride rally to remind French President Emmanuel Macron of his election promise to make medically assisted procreation (MAP) available for all. Macron tweeted on Saturday: "France is a rainbow, we are rich in our diversities, let us be proud of ourselves! #MarcheDesFiertés # LoveisLove". During his presidential campaign, he said he was "in favour" of opening MAP, currently reserved for sterile heterosexual couples, to lesbian couples and single women. This remains a sensitive issue in a country where crowds have also marched against such demands by LGBT groups. In 2013, then President Francois Hollande’s government dropped an amendment to the same-sex marriage bill to allow gay couples to have children using MAP. The following year, a French court prevented two lesbians from officially adopting babies born to their partners through MAP – even though the process happened in Belgium, where it was already legal. Later in 2014, the highest French appeals court allowed gay couples to legally adopt children using MAP if the procedure happens abroad. But it remains illegal in France. France’s National Advisory Committee on Ethics will on Tuesday deliver a long-awaited recommendation on MAP, with a particular focus on lesbian couples. 'It's been forty years, and it's not over!' Saturday’s march swept across the historic heart of Paris to the Place de la République, where events went on until 10pm. Mickaël Bucheron, president of the FLAG association – the LGBT group of law enforcement officers, which had included the policeman Xavier Jugelé, killed in a terrorist attack on the Champs-Élysées in April – marched to "tell the population that the police is diverse". "It's been forty years, and it's not over!" exclaimed the spokeswoman for the organising association, the Inter-LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender). "We are not here to ask for crumbs, but rights, and that is why we are just a few metres from the National Assembly." Draped in rainbow flags, teenagers Agathe, Marwa and Laura said they were there "to move things forward" and hailed the fact that "young people are more open" about their sexual orientation. Two high school teachers, Jean-Luc and Franck, lost count of how long they have been going to the rally: "Our first time? Twenty years ago, at least." They also spared a thought for those "in other countries who aren’t allowed to do what they’re allowed to do here". Poster Comment: Many in France are now aware of the leftist president's satan-inspired promise to perverts! Marine should have been elected France's president in order to rescue the nation from the jaws of hell!
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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)
Yup. And now God will curse France. As they have hardened their hearts and allowed their hearts to be deceived, both the Mooslem Death Cultists and disciples of Sodom & Gommorah will rapidly corrode and destroy it from within. I give France a decade at most before it is swallowed up and becomes a hell on earth. Most of the EU as well as nearby h0m0-facsist/Christian-hating Canada earns the same fate. The US? No doubt -- we are close to CW2. However, too many Christians and Constitutional conservatives are armed, ready, and righteously fed up. We WILL defend ourselves from fascism and demon-inspired politicians who believe that can continue steamrolling America.
You're dipping into the Old Testament for these ideas. The New Testament is pretty silent on the notion of God cursing various nations. Even in the O.T., it is Israel whose fate is inflicted as a punishment from God, more so than the enemies of Israel.
Because it was not the Mission of the NT. The Gospel is... That said, although there are many references in the NT that may not "curse" nations, we ARE indeed reminded us that individuals' souls may be damned/cursed if we insist on creating our own R&Rs for a personal, customized Gospel. Paul in particular is not shy about this, is he?
Sure. I was only addressing the idea among Christians that God is cursing nations in the sense of cursed nations or persons in the Old Testament. Let Us Reason: Should a Christian be Concerned about Curses Today? In the New Testament, in Jesus’ ministry He cursed only one thing-- the fig tree, saying, “Let no fruit grow on you ever again,” and the fig tree withered (Mt. 21:19; Mark 11:14). He also spoke about curses from people. In the only reference in the New Testament where He tells us what to do if someone cursed us, Jesus said, “Bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you” (Luke 6:28). He did not give us fancy methods, or special words on how to break curses. He taught the believers specifically how to deal with curses without any superstitious teachings that would bring fear of an evil that would occur to them. BLESS THEM. In other words-- do good to them by your actions; try to reach them. Jesus did not give a supernatural spiritual solution but a very practical one-- do what they would have done by someone who is their friend and cares for them.
#9. To: Tooconservative (#7)
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Good points, post and link. I get it. NOT a fan of those so-called "Christians" or fake "Christian leaders" tossing around "CURSED!!" as though they were M&Ms or beads at a NOLA Mardi Gras. They abuse the whole "cursed" thing. Many of us still believe in the notion that America, THIS Republic was originally blessed because our Founders were collectively OBEDIENT to the Word, respectful of The Word, based their Republic largely ON The Word -- God's Word... Once the secular humanists hijacked America's morals, "education," and established THEIR morality and moral relativism, it can be said that His blessings are lifted. Nay...we may now have well invited in Satan and yes, become self-cursed. FOR cursing God. Makes perfect sense to me. What do *your* eyes, ears, and heart tell *you* as a cultural observer and Believer? MOREOVER -- With respect to OT vs. NT, the Lord and His laws and word STILL does not change, does He/it? Jesus = The Father. An aside: Paul speaks for God, for Jesus. Harshly. (See Romans 1:18-1:32. The Lord's wrath upon "Unrighteousness" can be construed as warning OR "curse", can't it?)
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#4. To: Liberator (#1)
Yup. And now God will curse France.
#5. To: Tooconservative (#4)
The New Testament is pretty silent on the notion of God cursing various nations.
#7. To: Liberator (#5)
That said, although there are many references in the NT that may not "curse" nations, we ARE indeed reminded us that individuals' souls may be damned/cursed if we insist on creating our own R&Rs for a personal, customized Gospel. Paul in particular is not shy about this, is he?
The linked article has a long discussion of curses in scripture (95% O.T.) with a brief discussion of each.
It is not my intention to address any specific teachers philosophy on this subject but in general look at the common teaching shared by them all. Today, the teaching of curses it has been popularized by Neil Anderson, Joyce Meyers, Marilyn Hickey, Larry Huch, Benny Hinn, Cleansing Streams and many more. You will find that 90% of their teaching on curses is from the Old Testament, Why? Because you cannot justify this teaching by New Testament! There are some who have written books and devoted their whole ministry to taking care of a curse that is not mentioned in the New Testament.
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