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Title: Pope Francis Warns Against ‘Invasion’ of Libertarianism
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Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/national-s ... st-invasion-of-libertarianism/
Published: Apr 27, 2017
Author: THOMAS D. WILLIAMS
Post Date: 2017-04-29 18:45:45 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 1985
Comments: 15
Pope Francis had harsh words to describe libertarians Friday, saying they deny the value of the common good in favor of radical selfishness where only the individual matters. “I cannot fail to speak of the grave risks associated with the invasion of the positions of libertarian individualism at high strata of culture and in school and university education,” the Pope said in an message sent to members of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences meeting in the Vatican and subsequently shared with Breitbart News. “A common characteristic of this fallacious paradigm is that it minimizes the common good, that is the idea of ‘living well’ or the ‘good life’ in the communitarian framework,” Francis said, while at the same time exalting a “selfish ideal.” Members of the Pontifical Academy are currently engaged in a workshop bearing the title “Towards a Participatory Society: New Roads to Social and Cultural Integration,” which began Friday and will run through May 2. Francis said that libertarianism, “which is so fashionable today,” is a more radical form of the individualism that asserts that “only the individual gives value to things and to interpersonal relations and therefore only the individual decides what is good and what is evil.” Libertarianism, he said, preaches that the idea of “self-causation” is necessary to ground freedom and individual responsibility. “Thus, the libertarian individual denies the value of the common good,” the pontiff stated, “because on the one hand he supposes that the very idea of ‘common’ means the constriction of at least some individuals, and on the other hand that the notion of ‘good’ deprives freedom of its essence.” Libertarianism, he continued, is an “antisocial” radicalization of individualism, which “leads to the conclusion that everyone has the right to extend himself as far as his abilities allow him even at the cost of the exclusion and marginalization of the more vulnerable majority.” According to this mentality, all relationships that create ties must be eliminated, the Pope suggested, “since they would limit freedom.” In this way, only by living independently of others, of the common good, and even God himself, can a person be free, he said. This isn’t the first time that the Pope has taken issue with popular social and political trends. In March, Pope Francis told leaders of the European Union that the populist movements that are sweeping many parts of Europe and other areas are fueled by “egotism.” Populism, he said, is “the fruit of an egotism that hems people in and prevents them from overcoming and ‘looking beyond’ their own narrow vision.”
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#1. To: Deckard, libertarian assholes (#0)
Damn it, Deckard….I have been trying to tell you libertarians all along that you’re all wrong….that you need to change your radical ways and modify your extreme beliefs. Now you’ve really gone too far and even have the Pope pissed at you. You libertarian assholes are in deep doo-doo. The Pope said: But, since you have never listened to me....why in the Hell should you listen to the Pope, right?
A gay canary Communist thug! Add the pope to Gatlin's LF Canary list. He must have studied your posting history for inspiration, before giving this speech. I do like some of what the pope has said, but he seems to have been smoking something before making these points.
In other words, individual rights BAD - communitarianism (socialism) GOOD. You've been pushing that agenda for some time now Gatslime - now you use the Pope (a New World Order stooge) to try and legitimize your nefarious world-view. I can't say I'm a fan of anything he has to say. It is utterly hilarious that Gatlin would use the words of this globalist Pope to try and legitimize his jihad against libertarianism. I wonder of Gatlin also agrees with the Pope on immigration and that all religions are equal? I just can't stop laughing!! Oh my side !!
..why in the Hell should you listen to the Pope, right? Why should anyone listen to him? Only the “libertarian” ideas of the virtues of private property, markets, and economic freedom – the ideas that the pope routinely denounces with a passionate hatred – could have prevented the destruction of the Argentinian economy. He seems to think that the only problem with Peron was that he didn’t go far enough with his brand of socialism (fascism – “national” socialism in the twentieth-century German variety — being just another variety of socialism, as Friedrich Hayek explained in detail in The Road to Serfdom). You can mask your ignorance and continue in your confusion to ask: But that is the wrong question to ask. The proper question to ask is: And the answer to that question is astoundingly: Therefore, you can paste links, call him a fascist forever, stamp your little feet, then roll on the floor and scream you personally don’t like him….but after all of that, when go check any list of the most powerful people in the world….you will always find Pope Francis in the top 10. Reality can become one of your best friends, if you will simply let it. Stop fighting it so hard. You can rest assuredly that when Pope Francis “warns against the ‘invasion’ of libertarianism” people all over the world are listening. If you want to seed libertarianism around the globe, you need to have the Pope as a friend. Cue old Willie …
And the answer to that question is astoundingly: YES, they do. Who gives a shit what a false prophet has to say. Roman Catholicism is a CULT! Keep drinking the kool-aid Gatslime. ...(Gatlin and the Pope) seem to think that the only problem with Peron was that he didn’t go far enough with his brand of socialism (fascism – “national” socialism in the twentieth-century German variety — being just another variety of socialism... Stay on subject. Check any list of the most powerful people in the world….you will always find Pope Francis in the top 10.
Millions of deluded sheep - like you listen to him and cares what he says. The Pope does not speak for me or anyone else I know. The question you asked was: “Who listens to the Pope [when he warns against the “invasion” of libertarianism]?” I have answered that at least three times and you still keep trying to dance away from accepting a truthful answer based on reality and try to spin with deflection. You can stop trying to do that now….you are making a fool of yourself.
Obviously you listen to and agree with the pope's message. From my perspective, you are nothing more than a globalist who claims to be conservative. Sod off wanker. When I am posting to you, I continually cannot help but think that your mother must have dropped you on your head when you were still a baby. Do you know if she did?
The Shadow Pope, Benedict XVI has been unable to convert Francis to Christianity. Libertarianism is an “antisocial” radicalization of individualism, which “leads to the conclusion that everyone has the right to extend himself as far as his abilities allow him even at the cost of the exclusion and marginalization of the more vulnerable majority.”
This is quite remarkable. Of all the political philosophies that exist, Pope Francis has singled out and attacked libertarianism to say: I cannot fail to speak of the grave risks associated with the invasion of the positions of libertarian individualism at high strata of culture and in school and university education.
Yep, the Pope nailed it.
#2. To: Gatlin, gay communitarian canaries (#0)
the idea of ‘living well’ or the ‘good life’ in the communitarian framework
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
#4. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#0)
...it minimizes the common good, that is the idea of ‘living well’ or the ‘good life’ in the communitarian framework,
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#5. To: Pinguinite (#3)
(Edited)
I do like some of what the pope has said,
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#6. To: Deckard (#4)
You've been pushing that agenda for some time now Gatslime - now you use the Pope (a New World Order stooge) to try and legitimize your nefarious world-view.
#7. To: Gatlin (#1)
Yep, the Pope nailed it.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#8. To: Deckard (#7)
(Edited)
Why should anyone listen to him [Pope Francis]?
Do multitudes of people the world over listen to Pope Francis?
YES, they do. The World's Most Powerful People:
Like it or not, and you have made it abundantly that you don’t….that’s reality and you need to face it, Sport.
#1 Vladimir Putin
#2 Donald Trump
#3 Angela Merkel
#4 Xi Jinping
#5 Pope Francis
#6 Janet Yellen
#7 Bill Gates
#8 Larry Page
#9 Narendra Modi
#10 Mark Zuckerberg
https://www.forbes.com/powerful- people/list/#tab:overall
#9. To: Gatlin (#8)
(Edited)
The proper question to ask is: Do multitudes of people the world over listen to Pope Francis?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#10. To: Deckard (#9)
(Edited)
...(Gatlin and the Pope) seem to think that the only problem with Peron was that he didn’t go far enough with his brand of socialism (fascism – “national” socialism in the twentieth-century German variety — being just another variety of socialism...
Ahem….you and I are not discussing a “problem with Peron.” The proper question to ask is:
You can call Roman Catholicism a cult. But when you again ask “who gives a shit what a false prophet has to say” [and try to strengthen your position by calling the Pope a “false prophet”]....I will continue to give you the same answer based on fact and not an emotional reaction like you.
Do multitudes of people the world over listen to Pope Francis?
And the answer to that question is astoundingly:
YES, they do.
Who gives a shit what a false prophet has to say.
Roman Catholicism is a CULT! The World's Most Powerful People:
And so, I say to you again …
#1 Vladimir Putin
#2 Donald Trump
#3 Angela Merkel
#4 Xi Jinping
#5 Pope Francis
#6 Janet Yellen
#7 Bill Gates
#8 Larry Page
#9 Narendra Modi
#10 Mark Zuckerberg
https://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/list/#tab:overall Like it or not, and you have made it abundantly that you don’t….that’s reality and you need to face it, Sport. Reality can become one of your best friends, if you will simply let it. Stop fighting it so hard. You can rest assuredly that when Pope Francis “warns against the ‘invasion’ of libertarianism” people are listening. If you want to seed libertarianism around the globe, you need to have the Pope as a friend.
Now, read this out loud to yourself: Regardless of what I, Deckard, call the Pope or what I say about the Pope….I acknowledge the fact that the Pope is one of the most influential men in the world. And millions upon millions of people do listen to him and believe what he says when he warns against the “invasion” of libertarianism.
There, you should feel better now that you have faced reality …
#11. To: Gatlin (#10)
I acknowledge the fact that the Pope is one of the most influential men in the world. And millions upon millions of people do listen to him and believe what he says.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#12. To: Deckard (#11)
The Pope does not speak for me or anyone else I know.
That has never been in question….and neither does the Pope speak for me, as you try to insinuate.
#13. To: Gatlin (#12)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#14. To: Deckard (#13)
#15. To: Gatlin, Deckard, Shadow Pope (#14)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
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