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Title: 'Tweets...Don't Change Facts': GOP Congressman Hits Trump for Blaming Freedom Caucus on AHCA Failure
Source: IJR
URL Source: http://ijr.com/2017/04/837972-tweet ... reedom-caucus-on-ahca-failure/
Published: Apr 2, 2017
Author: Justin Baragona
Post Date: 2017-04-02 13:40:33 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 893
Comments: 6

In the wake of President Donald Trump taking aim at key members of the House Freedom Caucus over the failure of the American Health Care Act, one of those congressmen showed up on CNN's “State of the Union” to discuss the president's targeting of members of his own party over the unsuccessful legislation.

Highlighting the tweets Trump sent last week, host Jake Tapper wanted to know if Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) felt the president's actions were reasonable.

“The president seems to be placing the blame squarely on your shoulders,” Tapper noted, as seen in the CNN clip above. “Is that fair?”

“Jake, tweets and statements and blame don't change facts,” Jordan responded. “The facts remain the same.”

The Ohio lawmaker went on to point out that the legislation did not repeal the Affordable Care Act and that insurance premiums will still go up over the next few years under the AHCA. He also brought up the low poll numbers for the bill.

“And it doesn't unite the country,” Jordan stated. “When have you seen a bill come forward where only 17% of the country supports it?”

The GOP House member would move on to talking about Trump's social media manager calling on his colleague, Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI), to be primaried in his next election.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

“When have you seen a bill come forward where only 17% of the country supports it?”

Same poll:

37. As president, do you think Donald Trump should - support efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, or not?

No -- 51%

42. Do you support or oppose cutting off federal government funding to Planned Parenthood?

Oppose -- 61%

43. Do you support or oppose decreasing federal funding for Medicaid, a government program that helps pay for health care for low income Americans?

Oppose -- 74%

Hell, based on this poll, Trump should do nothing. The majority of people are actually happy with Obamacare.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-02   13:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

Hell, based on this poll, Trump should do nothing. The majority of people are actually happy with Obamacare.

I read another poll. Among Republican working class voters who had received the full subsidy for the Medicaid expansion (which was never before available to able-bodied people), they did not want to give up their healthcare but they wanted 0bamaCare repealed.

They just didn't connect the two.

We have a lot of stupid people in this country who were failed by the public schools and they haven't got any smarter since they graduated. Then you have media bias, sloppy polling, the inclusion of online and self-selected polling, etc.

Even so, Jeffords uses this polling well for his talking points.

Jeffords gave a good performance here. You can see why the Freedom Caucus liked to have him as a leader. And how Jeffords still seems to be their leader even though Mark Meadows is officially the head of it yet you don't hear much from him.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-02   14:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

"Among Republican working class voters who had received the full subsidy for the Medicaid expansion"

They were paying for insurance when the Medicaid expansion suddenly offered them insurance at little to no cost. Of course they jumped on that.

The problem is, their Medicaid card is being accepted by fewer and fewer doctors. Yes they're insured but fewer and fewer are able to get treatment. Their card is useless.

But they're counted as "insured" and that's what's important.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-02   14:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3) (Edited)

They were paying for insurance when the Medicaid expansion suddenly offered them insurance at little to no cost. Of course they jumped on that.

Some Red states have quite a few voters like that.

Have I ever mentioned that all politics is local?

I did enjoy watching Jeffords relentlessly hammer his talking points. Every statement was preplanned. He had the kind of message discipline you see from Mitch McConnell when he is in tight-lipped mode in a major interview. McConnell will just sit there and filibuster the interviewer, repeating the same talking points over and over until the interviewer gives up. It always makes me laugh. What a bastard.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-02   14:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Something to consider about the HFC and the 2 former bills that were passed that Obama vetoed:

From Heritage in 2015 discussing HR 3762 that passed House/Senate and BO vetoed:

“Doesn’t the House bill qualify as an Obamacare repeal bill?”

“No. The bill does not even touch Obamacare’s main two entitlement expansions: the Medicaid expansion and the exchange subsidies.

The bill leaves all of Obamacare’s new insurance rules and regulations in place. It also leaves many of Obamacare’s taxes in place.”

Senate: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/s329

House: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2016/h6

LOOK at the 'yea" votes for that bill especially from the crony conservatives at the House Freedom Caucus. Reagan must be spinning in his grave.

Enough of the phony grandstanding from the DC globalists including the House Freedom Caucus.

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2017-04-03   7:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: borntoweardiamonds (#5)

LOOK at the 'yea" votes for that bill especially from the crony conservatives at the House Freedom Caucus. Reagan must be spinning in his grave.

Hmmm...well, Freedom Caucus has no official members list and is invite-only. They are estimated at 32-36 members. Of those, currently 15 were considered known 'no' votes to the current bill.

The liberal RINO group known as the Tuesday group has about 50 members, is not an official caucus, and it had 18 known 'no' votes on the current bill.

So more liberal RINO types ("moderates") opposed RynoCare than members of the Freedom Caucus. Yet no one ever called for them to give in, called them unappeasable fanatics, threatened them with being primaried, etc.

It's always "get those damned conservatives". This was true when the Dems last held the House majority under Pelosi when they forced the Blue Dog Dems to walk the plank for 0bamaCare which caused all the Blue Dogs to lose their seats.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-03   11:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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