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Title: NOT backing down: Freedom Caucus stands strong amid attacks from the president
Source: Conservative Review
URL Source: https://www.conservativereview.com/ ... mid-attacks-from-the-president
Published: Mar 31, 2017
Author: Chris Pandolfo
Post Date: 2017-03-31 15:43:00 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 3778
Comments: 28

Though the Freedom Caucus is under assault from all sides, some of its members who have spoken to the media or made public statements are standing strong — insisting that they are willing to work with President Trump to keep the GOP’s promise to repeal Obamacare.

The media has used the failure of the American Health Care Act — Republican leadership’s phony repeal bill — as an excuse to attack conservatives in Congress. The Tea Party members of the Freedom Caucus, who opposed the legislation on grounds that it would not improve the American health insurance market, have been labeled “hardliners” who are unwilling to “compromise” or “get things done.”

President Trump has expressed his frustration with the health insurance bill’s failure in a series of tweets, first suggesting that the Freedom Caucus saved Planned Parenthood funding and Obamacare, and later announcing that if conservatives don’t hop aboard the establishment Republican agenda they will be fought in 2018.

“The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!” the president tweeted.

Some members of the House Freedom Caucus are pushing back on President Donald Trump’s threat to “fight” conservatives in the 2018 midterm primary elections.

"It didn't take long for the swamp to drain [Trump]. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment," Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted. 
It didn't take long for the swamp to drain @realDonaldTrump. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment. https://t.co/9bDo8yzH7I

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) March 30, 2017

Freedom Caucus ally Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) also joined in.
.@realDonaldTrump it's a swamp not a hot tub. We both came here to drain it. #SwampCare polls 17%. Sad! https://t.co/4kjygV2tdS

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) March 30, 2017

So did Rep. Labrador:
@realDonaldTrump Freedom Caucus stood with u when others ran. Remember who your real friends are. We're trying to help u succeed. — Raúl R. Labrador (@Raul_Labrador) March 30, 2017

Other Freedom Caucus conservatives are being less confrontational. Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) reiterated his support for “actual repeal” of Obamacare, and said he shared the president’s “frustration” with recalcitrant Republicans in Washington D.C.
I understand the President’s frustration. I share that frustration w/ a swamp refusing to repeal Obamacare. I am on board for actual repeal.

— Louie Gohmert (@replouiegohmert) March 30, 2017

"The Freedom Caucus is trying to change Washington. This bill keeps Washington the same, plain and simple," Rep. Jordan said on Fox News Thursday.

"We appreciate the president; we are trying to help the president. But the fact is, you have to look at the legislation. It doesn't do what we told the voters we were going to do, and the American people understand that. That's why only 17 percent of the population supports this legislation."

“We want to help the president get a bill that rises above 17% in the polling,” Congressman Dave Brat (R-Va.) told Conservative Review. He said the Freedom Caucus is looking for a bill that will lower premiums by repealing the insurance regulations and mandated health benefits that are driving up the cost of health insurance.

Brat also criticized the mainstream media narrative that the Freedom Caucus sunk Obamacare repeal. “The narrative by the elites and the D.C. cronies and the mainstream media is that ‘we can’t get to yes.’”

“On the facts that’s false,” Brat said. “We voted ‘yes’ 50 times for repeal. And the 2015 bill was unanimous, basically, with Republicans in the House and the Senate.”

Rep. Brat argues that the Freedom Caucus has compromised from voting for that 2015 full repeal of Obamacare to nearly supporting the American Health Care Act, “kind of an Obamacare federal structure that maintains the basic architecture of Obamacare.”

“The idea that we haven’t moved considerably is just laughable,” Brat said. 

Further, “it was clear to Leadership that more moderates were going to vote no if that bill came to the floor than the Freedom Caucus. But that narrative is not as convenient. Once that vote hit 22 ‘Noes’ it was going to go to 60 or 70, is the best estimate.”

Why then are moderates like Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Il.) claiming the Freedom Caucus killed Obamacare repeal? 

“They’re just being politically shrewd,” Brat said. “The mainstream media, of course, goes along with that narrative that it's these conservative guys’ fault. It’s the usual D.C. narrative.”

A narrative that President Trump has bought into. But Freedom Caucus conservatives aren’t the only ones making Brat’s point.

Congressman Tom Emmer (R-Minn.) — who is not a member of the Freedom Caucus — told PJ media that “there were probably ten to fifteen members of the Freedom Caucus that were still a no.” However, Emmer estimated that there were “two-thirds to three-quarters of the Freedom Caucus [who] were yes on this bill.” A “vast majority.”

This media narrative blaming the Freedom Caucus is “intentional,” Emmer said.

Marginalizing conservatives is exactly what the moderate Republicans in the Tuesday Group have decided to do. Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), who was the first member of Congress to endorse President Trump, told reporters today that the Freedom Caucus no longer has a seat at the table for negotiations on legislation.
Rep Chris Collins says Tuesday Group met last night agreed they won't meet or work w Freedom Caucus. "If that call comes in just hang up"

— Daniel Newhauser (@dnewhauser) March 30, 2017

Collins says HFC is trying to blame moderates on health care: "This is the Freedom Caucus looking for a scapegoat" https://t.co/hEkKixuNuO

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) March 30, 2017

These moderate Republicans refused to go along with a full repeal of Obamacare, and now they are pledging to work with liberal Democrats to pass bad bills rather than use the Republican majority to pass conservative legislation.

It’s compromise with Democrats. Screw the conservatives. Pass liberal legislation that will hurt people. And President Trump is fine with all of it.

This is not what the conservative base in the Republican Party voted for in 2016. Then again, actually it is. The Tea Party took this risk when they handed Trump the Republican nomination in 2016. Donald Trump was never a conservative. He was never anti-establishment

Some conservatives knew that when they held their nose to beat Hillary Clinton. 

Well, the Democrats are out of power and conservatives are still losing. So where do we go from here?

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

NOT backing down: Freedom Caucus stands strong amid attacks from the president

Let's hope the public doesn't back down from getting rid of the sons of bitches next election.

rlk  posted on  2017-03-31   15:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Donald Trump was never a conservative. He was never anti-establishment.

Trump is a NYC libtard.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-03-31   16:49:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Louie Gohmert is a dick with ears...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-03-31   17:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#3)

Louie Gohmert is a dick with ears...

Does that make any sense at all?

Gohmert is a new Freedom Caucus member but he certainly is not shy. Gohmert is very popular in Texas and around the country with conservatives. There aren't all that many House members that are as well-known. Guys like Trey Gowdy and Steve King have a similar national profile within the party though they probably are both just a bit better known than Gohmert is.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-31   17:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#4)

Gohmert is very popular in Texas …

Well, hold on there a minute, hoss….Gohmert is not popular with everyone in Texas …

On Friday, the Republican House of Representatives failed to fulfill its long held and oft repeated promise to repeal the flawed Affordable Care Act, widely known as ObamaCare.

In 2016, voters overwhelmingly supported that overthrow, as evidenced by their support of Republicans across the board and for Donald Trump, who made “repeal and replace” a centerpiece of his campaign. In Gregg County, Texas, where I live, Trump won in a landslide with over 70 percent of the vote. And that margin was typical of most of East Texas.

My congressman and my good friend, Louie Gohmert, led the opposition to the bill, effectively killing it and keeping ObamaCare as the law of the land.

I supported Congressman Gohmert from the first days of his first campaign for Congress. I closed my medical practice and drove him all over East Texas to meet community leaders, meet with newspapers and hold campaign events. We agree on most issues.

He is one of the hardest working members of Congress. His relationship with his constituency is great. His “midnight tours” of the Capitol are legendary. He probably knows more about the U.S. Capitol building, its history and its artwork and furnishings than anyone, possibly including the Capitol Architect.

He remains one of the poorest members of Congress – good evidence that he is not trying to profit from his position.

I have stood by him when he has made innumerable controversial statements that get him more “face time” on Fox News than Bill O’Reilly. I supported his excuse that being flamboyant and controversial was the only way a back bencher like him could effectively articulate his message and get it out to a wide audience.

He is a member of the Freedom Caucus — the farthest right group in the Republican Caucus in Washington. While I agree with most of the things they stand for, their intransigence and plain old “bull headedness” is keeping us from making progress away from the liberal socialism that ObamaCare represents. Their “my way or the highway” attitude condemns Republicans to fail.

There is a reason that congressmen like Louie Gohmert seldom gain leadership roles in Congress, roles that would enable them to achieve the lofty goals they so ardently cling to while their constituents are drowning in bureaucratic red tape and regulation.

Governing is about more than making speeches, appearing on talk shows and being against everything. Congress will never pass a bill that Louie Gohmert thinks is a perfect bill — one that fulfills his entire wish list. So he kills ObamaCare repeal and lets us keep paying the price for his purity.

Louie, do you work for us? Or have you developed the paternal attitude that voters are simple folk who do not understand such complex issues and you have decided what is best for us?

Been there too long?

By John R. Coppedge, MD - a retired general surgeon in Longview, Texas.

Don’t blame Trump for healthcare defeat — blame Louie Gohmert.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-31   23:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#4) (Edited)

Gohmert is very popular in Texas …
Hmmm …
If Louis Gohmert is so “very popular” in Texas …

… then why is he afraid of being shot if he holds a town hall meeting with his constituents?

Rep. Louie Gohmert Invokes Gabby Giffords Getting Shot as Reason Not to Hold Town Hall.

Over the past few weeks, one of the more intriguing political news stories has been the raucous town halls that Congressional Republicans have experienced back in their home districts. Cable news has been filled with scenes of House and Senate members being peppered with confrontational questions from constituents while overflow crowds cheer on questioners and jeer their representatives.

With Democrats and liberals in even the reddest districts organizing to attend these town halls, some congresspeople are now taking to skipping these in-person meetings with their voters, preferring to arrange conference calls and Facebook Q&A’s.

When pressed by a group of demonstrators earlier this week on why he hadn’t scheduled a public town hall, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) explained that his constituents already knew where he stood on issues like immigration and health care, so it was essentially pointless.

I feel confident there are very few voters who pay attention in the 1st Congressional District of Texas who don’t know exactly where I stand on the issues and why — especially regarding the issue of Obamacare. In fact, in November, over a quarter of a million people were polled, and 73.9% said they agreed with me. I made clear for the last seven years that I would do all I could to repeal Obamacare. I was one of the few who read it before I voted.

Gohmert then stated that it was a safety issue why he wasn’t holding a meeting with voters, specifically citing the shooting of a Congresswoman while also parroting a GOP/Trump Administration claim that many of these town hall attendees are paid protesters.

Unfortunately, at this time there are groups from the more violent strains of the leftist ideology, some even being paid, who are preying on public town halls to wreak havoc and threaten public safety. Threats are nothing new to me and I have gotten my share as a felony judge. However, the House Sergeant at Arms advised us after former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords was shot at a public appearance, that civilian attendees at Congressional public events stand the most chance of being harmed or killed — just as happened there. One Congressional friend had one of his district staff members knocked unconscious and hospitalized this past week after being overrun by a group intent on physical confrontation and disruption.

In his statement, the Texas lawmaker would also note that he can reach more voters through telephone town hall meetings, highlighting that it makes it easier for the elderly and disabled to participate. He pointed out that he’ll eventually go back to having “civil town hall meetings” once the “threat of violence” subsides.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-31   23:22:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rlk (#1)

" Let's hope the public doesn't back down from getting rid of the sons of bitches next election. "

Robert, not sure if I understand. Are you opposed to the Freedom Caucus ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-04-01   4:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Willie Green (#3)

Willie is a dick. Your mom named you after your dad's dick. Willie has a dick in his mouth.

That is how you talk. So I'll talk the same to you penis boy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-01   7:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)

That is how you pray in church.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-04-01   9:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Willie Green (#3)

GOOFy-lookin' AND STOOOPIDer than a ROCK...LOL!!
And she's THE BEST DemRATZ got, apparentLEE...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2017-04-01   11:53:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Stoner (#7)

Robert, not sure if I understand. Are you opposed to the Freedom Caucus ?

They impress me as assholes representing areas filled with assholes. Calling them a Freedom Caucus means nothing. Why don't they call themselves the Asshole Caucus?

rlk  posted on  2017-04-01   12:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#6)

If Louis Gohmert is so “very popular” in Texas …

...then he'll get re-elected handily.

Otherwise, he won't.

I assume we will find out in November 2018.

One senile old surgeon writing a blog for the Lefty mouthpiece, The Hill, does not turn an incumbent like Gohmert out of office, no matter how much you hope it will.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   12:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: rlk (#11)

Thanks for the clarification Robert.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-04-01   13:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative (#12)

One “senile old” surgeon …

I cannot help but notice that you have a great propensity to act hateful and disrespectful towards your elders….I am quick to pick up on weird reactions by odd people.

I am curious to learn the cause of your inclination to behave towards senior citizens in the particular insolent manner you do …

Is this just a natural tendency for a libertarian….or is it because you hate your parents for some reason?

Again, just curious …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   13:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#14)

It isn't hateful to point out that Will Rogers was dead when you were an infant and to ridicule the idea that he has any particular cultural relevance today.

You might as well rant about Susan B. Anthony and Harry Houdini.

I am not interested in joining your little Geezerville.

Now go play some shuffleboard before your nap.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   14:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#15)

It isn't hateful to point out ...

I was in no way referring to myself.

I was merely pointing out that you referred to the doctor in Texas as one “senile old” surgeon when you don’t even know him or know anything about him.

As far as the rest of your post, it is quite evident that I stuck a nerve.

Wow, what some explosive reaction....you just had there!

What was it …

Was it that I mentioned your reactions towards older folks is “because you hate your parents for some reason?”

Hmmm …

And BTW…I have never played shuffleboard in my life, but it is nap time.

So, toodle-loo

I fully realize that is an archaic American form of “goodbye.”

But I am old fashioned in many ways….enjoyably so.

Things were so much better during my generation.

Argue against that …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   15:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#16) (Edited)

Was it that I mentioned your reactions towards older folks is “because you hate your parents for some reason?”

My parents are deceased. I got along with them pretty well overall. Like a lot of families, we did know what subjects to avoid.

Things were so much better during my generation.

I doubt that. I'm old enough to remember quite a few of them. They were nothing special. In history, a generation that is special in any way is quite unusual. A good exception would be the Founders of the republic. Even they had plenty of faults.

I don't generally admire sentimentality. I always think that others will remember the same exact things quite differently and with a very different perspective.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   15:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#17)

My parents are deceased. I got along with them pretty well overall.

Oh, I am so glad and relieved to learn that your parents were not the source of your frustration with older folks.

Like a lot of families, we did know what subjects to avoid.

Wow, I’ll bet on that being the Gospel truth….if you were anything back then, like you are today.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   15:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#18)

Wow, I’ll bet on that being the Gospel truth….if you were anything back then, like you are today.

Considering what a flaming asshole you are on this forum, I'll take that as a compliment.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   16:21:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#17)

The Greatest Generation.
Tom Brokaw named it

And I was one of those who lived it ….

I will be eternally grateful that I did…I would have had it no other way.

A few pictorial sentimental reasons why: The Greatest Generation.

I don't generally admire sentimentality …
You should think about doing that, and come to realize that sentimentality is not a bad thing for you …
10 Reasons Why People Who Are Sentimental Have Beautiful Lives .
Cue Doris Day …

I know, your question coming is: Doris Day?

Forget it …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   16:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#20) (Edited)

I saw a few old Doris Day movies. Until I learned to avoid them.

The Greatest Generation. Tom Brokaw named it … And I was one of those who lived it …

Just how old are you? I thought you were supposedly in high school when WW II ended.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   17:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#19) (Edited)

Wow, I’ll bet on that being the Gospel truth….if you were anything back then, like you are today.

Considering what a flaming asshole you are on this forum, I'll take that as a compliment.

Oh, my goodness, you don’t have to “take” anything….it was definitely meant as a compliment, to your parents for putting up with you.

Furthermore, it was meant to openly and publically call attention to the obnoxious and insufferable know-it-all repulsive asshole you are on this forum, when you constantly talk down to everyone.

Your immature attempts to display your holier-than-thou attitude causes you to believe you are intellectually superior to everyone.

Why you must constantly try to show everyone how emphatically correct you are and call them out to show how wrong you think they are always….is a mystery.

What is not a mystery, is that your Illusory Superiority cognitive bias is showing that you greatly overestimate your own qualities….and that needs immediate attention.

Your turn …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   17:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#21)

The Greatest Generation. Tom Brokaw named it …
And I was one of those who lived it …
Just how old are you?
I well remember hearing this …

As well as this …

And I can get emotional when I hear this….I know how you detest sentimentality.
[An AC-130 Spectre Gunship and a crew in my old unit can be seen at 3:09 in the video] …

And each time the this is presented on TV….my wife and both stand,
she places her hand over her heart while I salute …

That is what The Greatest Generation does….the generation I grew up in, TC.

And what does your generation do, Bubba….when the National Anthem is played, some of them kneel.

Assholes …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   18:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Gatlin, Tooconservative (#22)

the obnoxious and insufferable know-it-all repulsive asshole you are on this forum, when you constantly talk down to everyone. ...

Your immature attempts to display your holier-than-thou attitude causes you to believe you are intellectually superior to everyone.

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-01   19:26:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Deckard (#24)

Gatlin's little rant really is unintentionally ironic, isn't it?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   19:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative (#25)

Gatlin's little rant really is unintentionally ironic, isn't it?

Best described as....truthfully heartfelt.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   19:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Gatlin (#26)

Yeah, you're just pouring your heart out here, aren't you?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   19:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Tooconservative (#27)

Yeah, you're just pouring your heart out here, aren't you?

Truth comes out easily….but, I will not argue with you.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   20:22:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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