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Title: The obsession of the House Freedom Caucus
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Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/ ... aucus-house-republicans-214819
Published: Oct 15, 2015
Author: JAKE SHERMAN
Post Date: 2017-03-26 23:45:43 by Gatlin
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Views: 690
Comments: 8
Rep. Justin Amash [a libertarian] insists the group that pushed John Boehner to the exits isn't just a bunch of bomb throwers. They want real reform in how the House works. [No the don’t they want to control the House….and they are damn well doing it!] Rep. Justin Amash, a leader of the House Freedom Caucus who helped plunge the House of Representatives into an unprecedented state of chaos, wants to talk about rules. […] Amash, a 35-year-old libertarian-minded Republican first elected in the tea party wave of 2010, is at the heart of a new power center in the House Republican Conference. With roughly 40 members, the Freedom Caucus has an outsized role in selecting the next speaker of the House. If its members vote as a bloc, which they say they intend to do, it essentially gives them veto power over the next speaker of the House [and it gives them power to do anything they damn well please….or the power to stop anything his libertarian ass doesn’t like]. […] “The worst scenario,” Amash continued, “is where you have one person or a small group of people dictate to everyone else what the outcome is going to be in advance.” [Yea, tell me about it …] “The obsession of the House Freedom Caucus.”
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That much power, two men controlling the Freedom Caucus, a block of around 40 House members [well, less one who was smart enough to resign from the Freedom Caucus today….way to go, Poe] who meet secretly and decide the course of action they will take in a block vote is dangerous to our democratic institution and must in some way be stopped. They are in total control of what they permit the House to do and not do….this is shameful. JMO …
House Freedom Caucus is dangerous. The members f the Freedom Caucus boast a platform of “no compromise” based solely on their principles. I believe they misunderstand democracy or even worse, deliberately disregard it. American history illustrates that compromise is its first principle. In Richard’s Beeman’s Book, “Plain, Honest Men: The Making of the American Constitution,” it is mentioned how our founding fathers came together to forge a new national government out of a loose confederation fo states. all of which held much differently ideas and were far more diverse in their political views than we are today. Yet it was “compromise” between them that led to the founding of our great nation. The Freedom Caucus should have learned they cannot be all things to all people and hold stead fast to their no compromise determination and they should not be so willing to think that attempts at compromise are something to avoid. The Constitution is a masterpiece of compromise… The Civil War illustrates the devastating chaos that can arise when confrontation replaces compromise. Members of the Freedom Caucus have not learned from history and are, therefore, destined to repeat it. To be sure, their threatened national debt default to effect their extreme agenda (among other such threats) could result in catastrophic economic chaos, unknown since the Great Depression. They are no different than the uncompromising Middle East, religious zealots willing to inflict and suffer Armageddon for their principles. — John Hearn, Des Moines
— John Hearn, Des Moines The Freedom Caucus is dangerous. Who is John Hearn anyway? Some guy as confused about history as you are apparently. Civil War II will not erupt because Lyin' Ryan couldn't persuade the brave patriots of the Freedom Caucus to fall on their swords and break their promises to their voters to repeal 0bamaCare, to rip it out by the roots. Trump and Lyin' Ryan are free to try to find Republicans to primary the FC members. But that will most likely end up with Democrats holding those seats in 2019 due to Dem intensity and the typical losses in the first midterm of a new president. Trump may not know that but Lyin' Ryan does. Unfortunately for him, so does the Freedom Caucus.
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For example, the framers favoring large over small colonies, rural over urban colonies, rich over poor colonies, slave over non-slave colonies, monarchy over democracy, and indirect over indirect representative democracy. Prior to the Civil War, legislation was a patchwork of compromises to preserve the Union, especially including the Missouri and the Kansas-Nebraska Compromises. When, however, the competing factions ceased compromising, the Civil War erupted, killing more Americans than any war before or since.
The Freedom Caucus is dangerous.
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he Civil War illustrates the devastating chaos that can arise when confrontation replaces compromise. Members of the Freedom Caucus have not learned from history and are, therefore, destined to repeat it. To be sure, their threatened national debt default to effect their extreme agenda (among other such threats) could result in catastrophic economic chaos, unknown since the Great Depression. They are no different than the uncompromising Middle East, religious zealots willing to inflict and suffer Armageddon for their principles.
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