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International News Title: Donald Trump Weakens State Dept As Vladimir Putin Would Want Poster Comment: Tillerson is Putin's sockpuppet. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-4) not displayed.
ExxonMobil doesn't give a rat's ass about the American PEOPLE. ExxonMobil did not elect Trump. The American People did. Trump campaigned on peace and cooperation with Russia. The American People voted for that. That is now the policy. The old policy is no longer the policy.
#6. To: Willie Green (#3) Go protest Willie. Lucille is looking for you.
#7. To: Willie Green (#4) hey're not partisan appointees. They're career staffers who span multiple administrations. There can be no continuity of policy with with Cold War era. That is what "continuity" means, and what the Democrats, Establishment Republicans, and State Department staffers who span multiple administrations want. They do not want to change their minds and to start treating Russia as a potential ally and a partner. They want to continue what they know. What they know has always been American policy before, and they institutionally believe that that continuous, stable policy is "American interests". But American policy has abruptly CHANGED with this election. The American People voted to BREAK with the past and to choose a man who want to be friends with Russia and ally with them against Islamic terrorism. The State Department staffers want continuity with the past, and they are resisting the President of the United States, and resisting the new American policy. Therefore they and their institution must be broken and fired and removed and replaced, to the extent necessary, to bring it to heel politically. They may not be political appointees, but they DO have a politics, and the institution has a politics. But the politics of the nation, the duly elected Chief Executive, are DIFFERENT from their long standing politics. American national interests have CHANGED, but the State Department staffers do not accept the change. They want continuity with the past. Therefore, because they will not come to heel and implement the NEW policy, they and their institution have to be damaged, and ultimately broken if necessary. The State Department staffers, political or permanent, serve the POLICY as established by the President. They are not entitled to their OWN "policy", and they are not entitled to determine what "American interests" are. American interests are determined by elected politicians, specifically by the elected President. HE is in command of the State Department, the ENTIRE State Department, the permanent staff too, as well as the political staff. They can't be removed for being the opposite party, but they CAN be removed if they seek to pursued a policy in opposition to the President. The People chose to make peace with Russia. Trump campaigned on that, and he was elected. The NSA, CIA and State Department have decided to try to overrule the People, and the President, because THEY have decided that peace with Russia is "not in American interests", and that Trump must be stopped and undermined. Therefore, the CIA, NSA and State Department have to be "damaged" very aggressively until they are broken, if necessary, to bring them back to heel and back firmly under political control. ALL of the agencies of the United States, including the military, intelligence and foreign policy, are MEANT TO BE subject to ultimate POLITICAL control. They are not MEANT to have independent power of their own to set policy. They EXECUTE policy, but policy is DECIDED by politicians, NOT staffers. Staffers implement policies they are GIVEN BY POLITICIANS, they do NOT have the power, or the right, to decide what policy will be against the will of the politicians. ALL policy of the United States, ESPECIALLY NATIONAL SECURITY AND MILITARY AND FOREIGN POLICY, are COMPLETELY subject to civilian political control. Political control is determined by the President, who is elected by the people. Staffers in the State Department, the CIA and the NSA don't want peace with Russia, so they have sought to attack the President, to challenge his power as the sole and final decider of US Executive power. Therefore, these agencies must be cut down to size, damaged, weakened, even destroyed, and staffers fired, removed for insubordination, prosecuted and imprisoned for leaks - to the extent necessary to bring them firmly back under the command of the elected political authorities whom they serve. The NSA, CIA, FBI and State Department, at all levels, has no right whatever to have a will of its own. They are agencies who exist to be marionettes of the will of the elected President and his political staff. The CIA and FBI and NSA and State Department are SUPPOSED TO BE under political control. So is the military. All of it. There is NOTHING in American government that is supposed to be ABOVE political control. The CONSTITUTION ITSELF is subject to political amendment. THAT IS DEMOCRACY IN A REPUBLIC. Staffers do not have the power or authority to resist the will of their political masters. When they do by leaking information, they are criminals who should be prosecuted and destroyed like any other spy. A State Department man who seeks to prevent peace with Russia is not acting in American interests. The President was elected to make peace with Russia. Staffers who seek to undermine that policy are enemies of American policy and need to be driven out.
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7) They do not want to change their minds and to start treating Russia as a potential ally and a partner.
In the post-Soviet era, Russia is still a corrupt, kleptocracy with a murderous KGB thug like Putin as it's dictator. There can be no alliance or partnership with such corruption.
#9. To: Willie Green (#4) "They're career staffers who span multiple administrations." And what a great job they're doing!
#10. To: Vicomte13 (#7) But American policy has abruptly CHANGED with this election. To be precize, it is the world that is changing and Trump tries to adapt his country. But many who felt comfortable in the past (that is going with the wind) do not want to face the future.
#11. To: Willie Green, Rainbow Trump (#0)
Rachel Maddow likes lesbians, and Trump likes all the queers. That's what she's really complaining about. Putin ain't going for any of it. The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party![]() #12. To: Willie Green, misterwhite (#4) They're not partisan appointees.Some are partisan appointees while the majority are not….but they are worse than partisan appointees. They are confirmed loyal diehard “card carrying” Democrats whose employment span multiple administrations and need to be "drained from the swamp.” Records show that of the roughly $2 million that federal workers from 14 agencies spent on presidential politics by the end of September [2016], about $1.9 million, or 95 percent, went to the Democratic nominee’s campaign. Employees at all the agencies analyzed, without exception, are sending their campaign contributions overwhelmingly to Clinton over her Republican counterpart. Several agencies, such as the State Department, which Clinton once led, saw more than 99 percent of contributions going to Clinton.” How about “them” apples….Willy?
#13. To: Gatlin (#12) They are confirmed loyal diehard “card carrying” Democrats whose employment span multiple administrations and need to be "drained from the swamp.”
Yeah... but they're AMERICANs, DAMMIT... And fuckin' Putin has no goddam business meddling in our affairs... Trump should be impeached & tried for High Treason...
#14. To: Willie Green, misterwhite (#4) They're not partisan appointees. They're career staffers who span multiple administrations. Is that like a joke? These guys do not sneeze before checking the demoncrap play book! These guys should have been removed when Bush was elected but he wrongly thought you can reason with demoncraps. So ALL of Clinton's hacks were left in under bush and then Obummer made it worse by appointing even more political demoncrap hacks. Trump is beating the demoncraps like they have never been beaten and they are freaking out! OMG its so fun to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#15. To: Willie Green (#13) Yeah... but they're AMERICANs, DAMMIT... Well then you need to talk to Clinton and Obama who actually conspired with Russia all the time!
#16. To: Willie Green (#13) (Edited)
Yeah... but they're AMERICANs, DAMMIT... Yeah….they’re Americans, that’s true. But as I so correctly pointed out to you: they’re also confirmed loyal diehard “card carrying” “Democrat Party” Americans who did NOT want Trump to become president and will do everything they can clandestinely possible do to make Trump either fail or embarrass him, DAMMIT … I remind you that:
Several agencies, such as the State Department, which Clinton once led, saw more than 99 percent of contributions going to Clinton.” Records confirm this.
Trump should be impeached ... Oh, ABSOLUTELY he should be….but ONLY when there is proven and conviction of, “Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." None of this has happened….and therefore, you are simply making a radically emotional statement. For any further considerations, I respectfully refer you to: Article II of the United States Constitution states in Section 4….you might want to check that out.
And fuckin' Putin has no goddam business meddling in our affairs... Congratulations, Willy….you got that ONE right.
#17. To: Willie Green (#13) And fuckin' Putin has no goddam business meddling in our affairs... That is correct little green willie. But it is also correct that you should be prosecuted as an accessory to murder. Along with all the democrat filth you take the knee pads for.
#18. To: Gatlin (#16) Records confirm this.
Baloney... what records? Alternative records from wikileaks & the Kremlin?
#19. To: Willie Green (#13) And fuckin' Putin has no goddam business meddling in our affairs... Finally a guy who can explain to me this mystery :) How exactly Putin meddles in American politics?
#20. To: Willie Green (#18) Records confirm this. I’ll post it, but it probably is a waste of my time….since you will not believe it anyway. The information doesn’t fit into your agenda. “In terms of dollar amount, Clinton received over $1.85 million in donations from federal employees, while Trump received just more than $106,500.”
Government workers shun Trump, give big money to Clinton.
#21. To: A Pole (#19) 10 most damning findings from report on Russian election interference
#22. To: Willie Green, A Pole (#21) 10 most damning findings from report on Russian election interference Written By: Eugene Scott, CNN Get REAL....Willie!
#23. To: Willie Green (#21) (Edited) 10 most damning findings from report on Russian election interference This is the MOST damning you can find? Clearly quantity cannot replace quality. Like these two: 7 "Russian media hailed President-elect Trump's victory as a vindication of Putin's advocacy of global populist movements - the theme of Putin's annual conference for Western academics in October 2016 -- and the latest example of Western liberalism's collapse." 10 "In early September, Putin said publicly it was important the DNC data was exposed to Wikileaks, calling the search for the source of the leaks a distraction [from the content of data] and denying Russian 'state-level' involvement." Very damning indeed!
#24. To: Willie Green (#13) Trump should be impeached & tried for High Treason... And you should be found at the bottom of the Tallahatchie River. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #25. To: Vicomte13 (#1) The PRESIDENT decides what American interests are. Functionaries in the government EXECUTE policy, but they do not MAKE it. Here,here! We are in complete agreement. I don't,and never have trusted those bastards any further than I could throw Rosie O'Donnell. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #26. To: Willie Green (#4) Why should Trump have to work with Obama appointees? Yeah,and water ain't wet,and Oprah is a skinny white woman. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #27. To: Vicomte13 (#7) There can be no continuity of policy with with Cold War era. That is what "continuity" means, and what the Democrats, Establishment Republicans, and State Department staffers who span multiple administrations want. You might as well say "span multiple generations" as many of them actually represent old-line New England as well as OLD England banking families. There is a VERY incestuous relationship between Old Money European banking families and the US State Department. The old family people like the Harriman's seem to be out of the picture these days,but in many cases they are still there,but hiding under the names the Harriman daughters and their daughters married into. One married a man named Prescott Bush in the last century,for example. These people represent no one but themselves and the family banking interests. Sometimes that is the same as American interests,but that is just a coincidence. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #28. To: Gatlin (#12) Some are partisan appointees while the majority are not….but they are worse than partisan appointees. Oh,it's worse than that. I bet if you were to check the family blood lines of the top administrators you would discover family linkages that go all the way back to right after the Revolutionary War. They are in fact a shadow government. Sometimes that works for peace because they work for economic stability because it's good for business,but at other times they work for war because someone has taken over another government,booted out their family representatives in that nation,and shut down their profits and their influence. That's when they want to go to war. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #29. To: Willie Green (#13) hey are confirmed loyal diehard “card carrying” Democrats whose employment span multiple administrations and need to be "drained from the swamp.” BullBush! They are INTERNATIONALISTS! AKA: "Globalists". Is is they and their ilk that are pushing for a One World Government. THEY are the money people behind the end of sovereign nations. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #30. To: Justified (#14) These guys do not sneeze before checking the demoncrap play book! You have it backwards. The Dims don't sneeze without their permission. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #31. To: A K A Stone, Willie Green (#17) But it is also correct that you should be prosecuted as an accessory to murder. "Murder"?? WTH did THAT come from? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #32. To: A Pole (#19) How exactly Putin meddles in American politics? HUNDREDS of ways,just like every other national leader meddles in the politics of every other government on the planet in order to seek better deals for his or her own nation. It's a prime part of the job. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #33. To: sneakypete, ConservingFreedom, Willie Green, Vicomte13, TooConservative (#32) "How exactly Putin meddles in American politics? I know, but I expected something more spectacular - like Russian hackers falsifying American elections or at least putting some stuff in Mrs Clinton's coffee to make her say stupid things during her presidential campaign.
#34. To: sneakypete (#27) You might as well say "span multiple generations" as many of them actually represent old-line New England as well as OLD England banking families. Old line families are not much anymore. The problem is that corporations simply amass too much money and power too quickly, with much greater command and control. Families are quarrelsome, small, and the individuals don't have staffs to deal with one another the way that corporate bodies too. It's swell to be part of an old line family, and there is certainly the security of wealth there for many of them, but the wealth fades in comparison to the wealth of modern corporations. There are very few truly large wholly family-owned corporations.
#35. To: sneakypete (#31) "Murder"??
Kelleyanne Conway's alternative universe, no doubt...
#36. To: sneakypete (#31) The cunt votes to murder babies. Try and execute the cunt. Willie votes for murder too. Put his faggity ass on trial too.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#36) Willie votes for murder too. And you suck Jim Robinson's dirty dick...
#38. To: Willie Green (#37) Willie votes for murder too. And you suck Jim Robinson's dirty dick... Willie you are our token liberal here. That is why I allow you here. For laughs only. Also what I said is true. You regularly vote for murder. What you said is actually what interests you. Typical baby killing liberal response.
#39. To: A Pole (#33) I know, but I expected something more spectacular - like Russian hackers falsifying American elections Not needed. There is an excess of leftist fools that are Americans who are more than willing to do that,and more. or at least putting some stuff in Mrs Clinton's coffee to make her say stupid things during her presidential campaign. Stupid is her normal mode. Putting a chemical in her coffee,or more likely morning glass of wine,to make her stupider might even have the opposite effect. After all,you can't go any further than to the bottom,and then you have to start coming back up. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #40. To: A K A Stone (#36) The cunt votes to murder babies. So what you MEANT to say was "She is pro-abortion",but your insanity kicked in and garbled the message. "Murder" is a legal term,not an emotional one. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #41. To: sneakypete (#40) So what you MEANT to say was "She is pro-abortion",but your insanity kicked in and garbled the message. abortion is a political term for cunts and pussies who don't want to admit they are murderers. I never took you for one to mince words. I guess you can be a bit of a coward and a pussy too. Either that or you are a murderer at heart too. I'll just go with you're a little PC at times unless you say otherwise.
#42. To: sneakypete (#40) but your insanity kicked in and garbled the message. "Insanity" is also a legal term and shouldn't be used to describe slobbering ignorance.
#43. To: sneakypete (#39) There is an excess of leftist fools that are Americans who are more than willing to do that,and more. My suspicion is that Trump has won in a landslide about 60% of votes. But somehow it did not show in the official results. I wonder ...
#44. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#40) "Murder" is a legal term,not an emotional one. When people kill, not being aware what they do, it is a manslaughter, not murder. Just my opinion.
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