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Title: Rand Paul Blocked By Armed Guards From New Obamacare Bill (Secure Location, Not Available)
Source: The Libertarian Republic
URL Source: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/r ... med-guards-new-obamacare-bill/
Published: Mar 2, 2017
Author: Kody Fairfield
Post Date: 2017-03-02 21:44:20 by Hondo68
Keywords: Nancy Pelose revisited, Paul Ryan secret, Screw Job
Views: 18191
Comments: 73


the Republican Senator from Kentucky, Rand Paul, has tweeted out that he is currently being blocked by armed guards from viewing new, and the secretly kept Obamacare bill.

It was hours earlier that Paul tweeted that he heard that the Obamacare bill, being touted as Obamacare-lite by critics, is ” under lock & key, in a secure location, & not available for me or the public to view.”

The liberty minded Senator did not take kindly to this information and made his intention to share the bill with the public clear in another tweet.

Upon his arrival at a House hideaway in the Capitol, Paul claimed he was told he could not remove the bill and make it public. The Senator then held an impromptu press conference for media complaining about House Republicans’ lack of transparency, reports Politico.

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Reports also came in that Paul brought a copy machine with him, presumably to make copies of the bill to share with anyone who’d listen.

Politico reports that Paul had an exchange with a staffer as he tried to make off with the draft bill, which could be voted on later this month.

“I said I liked to get a copy and they said no go. She wouldn’t tell us anything really,” Paul said in an interview afterward. “Even if I were allowed to look at it, which it didn’t look like I was, how is that democracy?”

Republican aides said they believed the room on the first floor of the Capitol is being used for Energy and Commerce members to read the bill. Rep. Paul Tonko (D-N.Y.), a committee member, said he was also not able to read the bill and was told it was not available, explains Politico.

“It’s literally illegal in my state to do that,” Paul said in the interview. “You can understand for national security why we do it. But for goodness sakes for a healthcare bill? It’s crazy.”

The battle for transparency is likely a case that will leave those who want honest repeal of Obamacare completed, either an entire replacement of the legislation or a complete scrapping of it, not a watered down Obamacare-lite version which would keep key provisions of the old bill.



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Paul Ryan - You've got to pass it, to see what's in it?

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#5. To: hondo68 (#0)

Rand Paul Blocked By Armed Guards From New Obamacare Bill (Secure Location, Not Available)
As he should have been …

This article in nothing more than a promotional propaganda libertarian hit piece….and a very weak one at that.

What we see here is simply Rand Paul once again grandstanding to display his ostentatious behavior and speech intended to impress people like he once tried to do when exercising a rare “talking filibuster” that has not been seen in years….his filibuster that proved to be a waste of time because he accomplished nothing when other national issues confronted the Senate.

The republican health care overhaul in the house is still a “work in progress” since House Republicans cannot agree on some details or cost estimates. What is behind that closed door that Rand is being so anus about is simply a “rough sketch” of the massive health care overhaul that was unveiled to all rank-and- file Republican member of Congress on February 18.

There is no “new Obamacare bill” as the Libertarian Republic so biasedly and dishonestly labeled it. So far, there is only a broad vision for voiding much of Obama’s ACA and replacing it with conservative policies, as the work in progress was described by Ryan at a closed-door meeting in the Capitol basement in late February. The work in progress features a carefully revamped Medicaid program for the poor, tax breaks to help people pay doctor’s bills and federally subsidized state pools to assist those folks with costly medical conditions in buying insurance.

There is “no single bill” that Rand Paul wants to see. There are still different ideas options and many are controversial including the one being pushed by Ryan to replace the tax increases in Obama’s law.

Some Senate Republicans have criticized a House Republican plan to change how corporations are taxed and in mid-January Rand Paul announced he is drafting a new healthcare care plan to replace the ACA.

I would think since the “working bill” has already been made available to all rank-and-file House Members that Rand Paul already knew exactly what is in the House “working bill” he therefore didn’t go on a mission in search of information.

So, Rand Paul charging from the Senate over to the House, dragging his little portable copy machine behind him, in search of the “work in progress” house bill was not on a “search for information”….Rand was on a “search and destroy mission” to pour water on the powder in the House Republican ammunition bag they are loading.

Why should the House Republicans allow a copy of a “work in progress” bill under constant change to be floated in public by Rand Paul just so Rand can use it to promote Rand’s own version of the bill?

There is no reason they should….and they didn’t.

So, a pouting Rand Paul had to drag his butt back over to the Senate, pulling his little portable copy machine behind him [but not before he made sure all cameras were on him], where he should keep his grandstanding ass on the Senate side to do his job there and stop haranguing the House members with the continuing display of a six-year-old spoiled child temperament….so typical of libertarians.

JMO …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-03   3:02:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#5)

Time is short. Lets just say you are wrong on a whole host of issues here. They should release the bill so the public can see what their servants are doing. The butler isn't allowed to lock out the owner.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-03-03   7:05:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#8)

They should release the bill so the public can see what their servants are doing.

AKA,THERE IS NO BILL TO RELEASE. It's a freaking DRAFT. By the time it becomes an actual Bill,there may not be a single damn thing on it that show up on the actual Bill.

This is just grandstanding. Nothing more. Paul is playing you people for fools in exchange for a little self-promotion.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-03-03   21:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#41)

They are hiding something and Rand Paul is trying to expose them. Nothing wrong with the people seeing what our representatives tentative ideas are.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-03-03   22:01:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#44)

They are hiding something and Rand Paul is trying to expose them.
The House bill is a work in progress. Paul Ryan briefed a group of Senators on the House working draft bill. Rand Paul was in that meeting and didn’t like a few things in the House bill….points that are still under consideration and being negotiated. It was reported that Rand Paul “stormed” angrily out of the meeting. Now, Rand Paul is only grandstanding trying to promote his draft bill. He wants to do that by publically nitpicking an ever changing work in progress House version of the bill.
Nothing wrong with the people seeing what our representatives tentative ideas are.
How is that possible?

The “tentative ideas” being drafted in the house changes from minute to minute. The cost estimate, legislative language or policy details are in continuing evolution. There is no way the public could be kept informed on the numerous negotiated compromised changes and improvements. It is a thousand page bill that word by word is literally being modified throughout the day with coordination between the House, their counterparts in the Senate and the WH.

The Republicans in the House are diligently working for a deadline to repeal legislation by the end of the month and send it over to the Senate. The Senate leaders are seeking to vote by April 7.

The whole process is still so fluid and bogged down by policy disputes like the one Rand Paul has as to whether there should be refundable tax credits which he sees as an entitlement. Among other things, there is also contention about whether a Medicaid expansion is going to be repealed and how to pay for it.

So you want the public to see 1000 pages of “tentative ideas” that are changing by the minute?

I repeat: How is that possible?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-04   2:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Gatlin (#53)

It was reported that Rand Paul “stormed” angrily out of the meeting.

Rand Paul (a.k.a. Luap the Lesser to diehard fans like you) denied he "stormed" out of any meeting. He said they weren't getting anywhere so he got up and left because he had other things on his schedule.

The "storming out" was just #FakeNews, IMO. And you fell for it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-04   10:44:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Tooconservative (#57)

It was reported that Rand Paul “stormed” angrily out of the meeting.

Rand Paul … denied he "stormed" out of any meeting. He said they weren't getting anywhere so he got up and left because he had other things on his schedule.

Of COURSE, that is WHAT Rand would say.

Rand would NEVER admit to “storming” out of a meeting.

The "storming out" was just #FakeNews, IMO. And you fell for it.
Right back at you!

Rand Paul says something and you totally believe it. And you fall for it.

Do you honestly think that Rand Paul never lies?

And do you believe EVERYTHING that Rand Paul says?

If the answer is, no….then why did you believe what he said here.

Get Real, TC …

Don’t be gullible and accept factually what any politician says….without positive verification.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-04   14:24:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Gatlin (#60)

Don’t be gullible and accept factually what any politician says….without positive verification.

Paul Ryan = politician

Donald J. Trump = politician

You're right, they're likely lying because their lips are moving, and they're hiding their plans, if they even have any!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-03-04   15:22:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: hondo68 (#62)

You don't seem equipped to engage in this discussion.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-04   15:30:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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