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Title: *Of Course* Libertarians Are Leading the Charge Against Trump's Authoritarianism
Source: Reason
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/02/o ... libertarians-are-leading-the-c
Published: Feb 2, 2017
Author: Nick Gillespie
Post Date: 2017-02-15 06:36:19 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 16462
Comments: 89

The Guardian has pulled together five pieces from conservatives and libertarians who are critical of President Donald Trump's authoritarian tendencies and policies. I'm happy to be represented in the mix (for my commentary about Trump's awful, inhumane, and idiotic ban on refugees and travelers from seven countries tied to terrorism). It's a good mix of people, including some conservative critics (The New York Time's Ross Douthat, National Review's David French, Commentary's Noah Rothman) and Steve Horwitz of Bleeding Heart Libertarians along with yours truly. Here's a snippet from my piece:

That's certainly the case with Trump and his orders on sanctuary cities … and on immigration and refugee policy. The laws were not just poorly phrased and timed, they clearly will not work to address the basic issues they ostensibly are meant to ameliorate. As Anthony Fisher noted here earlier today, the US embassy in Iraq has said that Trump's action is a recruitment tool for jihadists, as pro- American Middle Easterners realize they're being hung out to dry. As for keeping America safe from terrorists entering the country as refugees, the fact is the country has an incredibly safe record.

Read the whole collection of pieces here.

Because no good deed or kind word can go unpunished, I'd like to add a bit of nuance to the way the writer, Jason Wilson, encapsulates his piece. Here's the headline and subhed:

Burst your bubble: five conservative articles to read as Trump riles libertarians

Some libertarians are reacting with alarm to Donald Trump's discriminatory executive orders, his authoritarian tendencies and international sabre-rattling

Yet the confusion is right there in headline: The "conservative articles" are the product of Trump "ril[ing] libertarians"? Wuh?

I just don't get the slowness with which people are fully grokking that libertarianism is as distinct from conservativism as it is from progressivism or leftism. I'm not trying to be pedantic or coy here, but there's a reason why libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing. And so it makes total sense that libertarians are leading the attacks on Trump's attempts to be a one-man (or at least one-branch) government. Libertarianism is nothing if not the antithesis of authoritarianism. Always has been, always will be. Be sure to check out Reason's attitude toward whoever eventually replaces Trump. The minute he (or she) starts down an authoritarian road, we'll be on the case.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing.

Libertarians are consistent in their principles regardless of which statist regime is in power.

The Trump cultists here (and the Bush-Bots before them) will accept any level of tyranny as long as it's their guy in the Oval Office.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   8:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#1)

Libertarians are consistent in their principles

Gary the faggot johnson libertardian

murder babies, displace American workers with foreign invaders. If you're a man suck dick.

Fuck the libertarians.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-15   10:13:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Gary the faggot johnson libertardian

murder babies, displace American workers with foreign invaders. If you're a man suck dick.

Fuck the libertarians.

Sorry that the term "libertarian" triggers you snowflake - maybe you need to go to your safe space and pet a puppy.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   10:55:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard (#12)

Sorry that the term "libertarian" triggers you snowflake - maybe you need to go to your safe space and pet a puppy.

lol.

Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing.

Right is not wrong.

You dope cultists are amoral.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-15   11:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing.

That's a lie, but don't let the facts get in the way of your hatred for those who don't subscribe to your simplistic views.

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.

The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Ronald Reagan

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   11:18:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deckard, A K A Stone, misterwhite (#15)

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so- called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.

The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Ronald Reagan

I see you only posted a cherry picked select portion of the quote by Ronald Reagan….so typical of you scumbag lying asshole libertarians. You devious lying asshole intentionally neglected to mention that Ronald Reagan also said in the quote:
Now, I can't say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who CALL themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians [like you, Deckard, and hondope] who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy.
Can you, hondope and all other Paultard libertarian assholes ever stop lying or posing fake news and yellow journalism articles in your failed effort to support your fanatical anarchist agenda to destroy America?

Probably not …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-02-15   13:34:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin (#29) (Edited)

You're a lying sack of donkey excrement. I never have claimed to be an anarchist.

Go genuflect before your statue of St. Donald slave-boy.

...effort to support your fanatical anarchist agenda to destroy America?

You neo-con pricks already did that with your support of Dubya.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   13:48:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deckard (#32)

I never have claimed to be an anarchist.
Sure, and Ted Bundy never claimed to be a serial killer, kidnapper, rapist, burglar, and necrophile.

You are what you are….and Ted Bundy was what he was!

Gatlin  posted on  2017-02-15   14:07:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#54. To: Gatlin (#38)

Anarchist: (Gatlin dictionary)

Anyone who does questions authority, demands accountability for cops, is against the drug war, criticizes Trump and exposes corrupt criminal government actions.

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