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Cult Watch Title: *Of Course* Libertarians Are Leading the Charge Against Trump's Authoritarianism The Guardian has pulled together five pieces from conservatives and libertarians who are critical of President Donald Trump's authoritarian tendencies and policies. I'm happy to be represented in the mix (for my commentary about Trump's awful, inhumane, and idiotic ban on refugees and travelers from seven countries tied to terrorism). It's a good mix of people, including some conservative critics (The New York Time's Ross Douthat, National Review's David French, Commentary's Noah Rothman) and Steve Horwitz of Bleeding Heart Libertarians along with yours truly. Here's a snippet from my piece:
Read the whole collection of pieces here. Because no good deed or kind word can go unpunished, I'd like to add a bit of nuance to the way the writer, Jason Wilson, encapsulates his piece. Here's the headline and subhed:
Yet the confusion is right there in headline: The "conservative articles" are the product of Trump "ril[ing] libertarians"? Wuh? I just don't get the slowness with which people are fully grokking that libertarianism is as distinct from conservativism as it is from progressivism or leftism. I'm not trying to be pedantic or coy here, but there's a reason why libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing. And so it makes total sense that libertarians are leading the attacks on Trump's attempts to be a one-man (or at least one-branch) government. Libertarianism is nothing if not the antithesis of authoritarianism. Always has been, always will be. Be sure to check out Reason's attitude toward whoever eventually replaces Trump. The minute he (or she) starts down an authoritarian road, we'll be on the case. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 15. libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing. Libertarians are consistent in their principles regardless of which statist regime is in power. The Trump cultists here (and the Bush-Bots before them) will accept any level of tyranny as long as it's their guy in the Oval Office.
#7. To: Deckard (#1) Libertarians are consistent in their principles Gary the faggot johnson libertardian murder babies, displace American workers with foreign invaders. If you're a man suck dick. Fuck the libertarians.
#12. To: A K A Stone (#7) Gary the faggot johnson libertardian Sorry that the term "libertarian" triggers you snowflake - maybe you need to go to your safe space and pet a puppy.
#14. To: Deckard (#12) Sorry that the term "libertarian" triggers you snowflake - maybe you need to go to your safe space and pet a puppy. lol. Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing. Right is not wrong. You dope cultists are amoral.
#15. To: A K A Stone (#14) Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing. That's a lie, but don't let the facts get in the way of your hatred for those who don't subscribe to your simplistic views. If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is. Ronald Reagan
Replies to Comment # 15. Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing. That's a lie, Drug use is immoral. Libertarians champion it. Case closed you lose. Most libertarians support open borders. It is in their pathetic platform. Neal Bortz for example. Generally speaking libertarians are atheists. Atheists suck.
#18. To: Deckard (#15) If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. There are some libertarian positions that are admirable. Like leave me alone. Still they are basically an amoral group. One came to our high school back in the 80's. I thought they guy had a lot of weird ideas.
#29. To: Deckard, A K A Stone, misterwhite (#15) If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so- called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.I see you only posted a cherry picked select portion of the quote by Ronald Reagan….so typical of you scumbag lying asshole libertarians. You devious lying asshole intentionally neglected to mention that Ronald Reagan also said in the quote: Now, I can't say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who CALL themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians [like you, Deckard, and hondope] who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy.Can you, hondope and all other Paultard libertarian assholes ever stop lying or posing fake news and yellow journalism articles in your failed effort to support your fanatical anarchist agenda to destroy America? Probably not …
#43. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#15) (Edited)
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so- called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. Ronald Reagan was not talking about what you fanatical Paultard assholes call libertarianism. When Ronald Reagan said that “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism,” he didn’t mean today’s dope-and-sodomy libertarianism.1.You need to quite trying to use Ronald Reagan to support your anarchist cause. Get that through your thick skull …
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