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Title: Mythical inalienable rights.?
Source: Crazy Guy
URL Source: [None]
Published: Feb 6, 2017
Author: nolu chan
Post Date: 2017-02-06 03:25:38 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 20849
Comments: 56

Nolu Chan has just posted another rather remarkable claim.

(It is an) --- insufferable claim that RKBA is an inalienable right given by God Almighty hisself. The Constitution recognizes capital punishment which takes away all rights, including the mythical inalienable rights.

nolu chan posted on 2017-02-06


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#2. To: tpaine (#0)

Nolu is a bright guy. He has a sharp legal mind, but a Pharisaic one, like Paul of Tarsus. He believes in the rule of law above all other things. Now, what he said there is absolutely true, in the sense that if your right to life truly were UNALIENABLE, then you could not be executed for crimes. (To argue with ME, Nolu would point out - correctly again - that "unalienable" does not mean somebody can't take it from you in punishment for crime, just that you cannot contract it away). Once again, that would be his assertion of the rule of law as the supreme rule of life.

Obviously lawyers like the idea of Rule-of-Law uber alles, the "Master Key", because they possess it and, therefore, have greater power than others.

All of these things are always about power and fear.

On another thread, strict legalism was being used to justify (as if that were possible) the German invasion of France and the Low Countries and Scandinavia and Poland in World War II.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-06   6:45:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13, y'all (#2)

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

-- what he said there is absolutely true, in the sense that if your right to life truly were UNALIENABLE, then you could not be executed for crimes.

Most intelligent people can understand the difference between the concept that, -- - ALL humans have inalienable rights, --- and that criminal acts can permanently (or temporally) forfeit those human rights under the rule of (constitutional) law.

Apparently, nolu and his pettifogging ilk cannot, --- or more likely, will not, because they have an anti-constitutional agenda.

tpaine  posted on  2017-02-06   8:28:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tpaine, nolu chan, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#3)

Apparently, nolu and his pettifogging ilk cannot, --- or more likely, will not, because they have an anti-constitutional agenda.

Nah,he's just a idiot savat so anal all he has to do is sit around in his mother's home and copy and paste court findings to try to prove to himself that he has a life worth living.

Nolu,you really are important,and people really do like you because you are such a SMART boy!

Honest! Would I lie to you.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-08   17:27:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#11)

Apparently, nolu and his pettifogging ilk cannot, --- or more likely, will not, because they have an anti-constitutional agenda.

---- he's just a idiot savat so anal all he has to do is sit around in his mother's home and copy and paste court findings to try to prove to himself that he has a life worth living.

That too. --- But I just can't understand why would anyone want to give respect to a clown who works against the constitutional principles we've all pledged to honor and defend? - An idiot that claims our inalienable rights are mythical?

tpaine  posted on  2017-02-08   18:42:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tpaine (#15)

An idiot that claims our inalienable rights are mythical?

The inalienable rights you speak of comes from God. You don't believe in God. Why would someone who doesn't believe in God say they have unalienable rights. Which were described by the founders in the Declaration as coming from God.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-09   9:33:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: A K A Stone, yall (#26)

Atheism is a faith-a blind faith that doesn't make sense of world & is not supported by observational science--it's a blind faith religion. --- GarySpFC

The inalienable rights you speak of comes from God. You don't believe in God. Why would someone who doesn't believe in God say they have unalienable rights. Which were described by the founders in the Declaration as coming from God. --- A K A Stone

I am not an athiest, and my agnosticism should not be a factor in my defense of our inalienable rights.

I have no problem that our unalienable rights were described by the founders in the Declaration as coming from God. --- Most believe the founders meant a Christian God, which again is fine with me. --- Believe what you want...

tpaine  posted on  2017-02-09 12:16:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#26)

The inalienable rights you speak of comes from God.

The word "God" is a creation of man,and there has been hundreds,maybe even thousands of "Gods" since mankind started forming together in tribes and the leaders started looking for a method of keeping the people under control.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-09 13:26:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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