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Bang / Guns Title: Obama's final shot: Ban on 'traditional (lead) ammo'
In its final attack on gun owners, the Obama administration moved to ban traditional lead ammo on federal grounds and waterways on its last full day in office. The ban, which includes cheap bullets and common fishing tackle, can be repealed by the Trump administration and was immediately condemned as an attack on outdoors people and rural life. "This directive is irresponsible and driven not out of sound science but unchecked politics," said Lawrence Keane, senior vice president and general counsel of the National Shooting Sports Foundation. "The timing alone is suspect. This directive was published without dialogue with industry, sportsmen and conservationists. The next director should immediately rescind this, and instead create policy based upon scientific evidence of population impacts with regard to the use of traditional ammunition." In a statement, it said, "Like so much of what Barack Obama claimed as 'accomplishments,' it will hopefully amount to little more than a symbolic act of defiance by a president with little of substance to show for his eight years in office." The Fish and Wildlife Service ban is aimed at protecting birds, animals and fish from lead poisoning. It is to begin now and cover all federal lands by 2022 unless revised. But it apparently came as a surprise to state agencies working with FWS to study the impact of lead bullets and weights. The association that represents state agencies, the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, for example, ripped the 11th hour move as an attack on hunters, anglers and life in rural America. A statement from Association President Nick Wiley said: "This action flies squarely in the face of a long and constructive tradition of states working in partnership with the service to effectively manage fish and wildlife resources." He adds, "the Association views this Order as a breach of trust and deeply disappointing given that it was a complete surprise and there was no current dialogue or input from state fish and wildlife agencies prior to issuance. It does a disservice to hunters and anglers, the firearms and angling industries, and the many professionals on staff with the USFWS who desire a trusting and transparent relationship with their state partners." This is unacceptable federal overreach into the states' authority to regulate the methods of take for sport fish as well as complete disregard for the states' concurrent jurisdiction with the Service for the management of migratory birds. Further, the economic impacts of this action, which likely will be felt most by rural Americans, is likely to be hundreds of millions of dollars." Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com Poster Comment: The Second Amendment isn't about F'n Duck Hunting! Hunting is not the prime consideration, "the security of a free state" is. Tyranny suppression is job #1. Why hasn't Donald StopFriskConfiscate Trump rescinded Obongo's illegal executive order? He's a NYC gun grabbing progressive libtard!(1 image) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Why hasn't he done it TODAY? Because he has more important things to do TODAY. He will get to it. This rule is not going to be enforced. Chill.
#2. To: hondo68 (#0) "... the Obama administration moved to ban traditional lead ammo on federal grounds and waterways on its last full day in office." And where did that lead used to make ammo come from? The ground. Shooters are merely returning it to where it came from. Isn't that called "recycling"?
#3. To: Vicomte13, bullet banning Trump (#1) It is to begin now and ...... It's a no-brainer, just do it! Illegal infringements are ongoing NOW. Stop the gun grabber Trump crime spree! IMPEACH! #4. To: misterwhite, lead replenishment (#2) Shooters are merely returning it to where it came from Save the planet, bust a few caps for Mother Nature! #5. To: hondo68 (#3) A bit hotheaded. As long as the rule is not enforced it has no practical effect. When the secretary is sworn in, he can go and strike out the rule. This follows the usual course of things. The President has much bigger fish to fry right now than a symbolic rules issue that isn't going to have any practical effect. They'll get to it.
#6. To: hondo68 (#0) I use the Corbon hollow-point, all-copper round in my .38 Spl.
#7. To: misterwhite (#2) (Edited) And where did that lead used to make ammo come from? The ground. In the soil, it is not concentrated like it is with a bullet. Lead is just bad news for all living things. You do have to leave a lot of lead slugs in one area to pose any hazard but they are not entirely without environmental impact. And that hazard persists for decades or centuries, particularly in a watershed area.
I use the Corbon hollow-point, all-copper round in my .38 Spl. Compared to lead, copper is much friendlier to the environment. Even so, Trump should rescind this ASAP.
#8. To: hondo68 (#0) In its final attack on gun owners, the Obama administration moved to ban traditional lead ammo on federal grounds and waterways on its last full day in office. You people need to widen your focus. This really has nothing to do with shooting,fishing,OR the environment. This is nothing more or less than "Political Trolling". The purpose is to set the stage for screaming cries of outrage and demands for it to be rescinded by Trump so the Dims can base part of their platform on "Those evil Republicans hate the environment and if you allow them to stay in power they will kill Mother Nature and destroy the Earth!" It's political gamesmanship,and I can guarantee you that Bathhouse Barry wasn't the father of this plan. He's plenty evil,but he's just not that smart. I suspect someone like Tim Kaine was behind it. He IS pretty damn smart,and there is never any danger of him running low on evil. Kaine is already clearly running for the Dim nomination in 2020,and he is a serious threat because he is MUCH smarter and MUCH better liked by Dim and non-affiliated voters than Bubbette! ever was. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #9. To: hondo68 (#0) You're the one who wasted his vote on hillary.
#10. To: sneakypete, GrandIsland, Fred Mertz (#8) "Those evil Republicans hate the environment and if you allow them to stay in power they will kill Mother Nature and destroy the Earth!" They're going to say that anyway, if he even does anything to lessen the bureaucratic nightmare environmental regulations, against US businesses. At some point you've got to make the case for sensible environmental regs where business can thrive, while not destroying the planet. The time is now. Call out the phony environmental trolls! Welcome back pete, GI misses you and posts something stupid about you nearly every day. #11. To: calcon (#9) You're the one who wasted his vote on hillary. How wrong you are! Get a grip, dip. #12. To: hondo68 (#10) (Edited) "Those evil Republicans hate the environment and if you allow them to stay in power they will kill Mother Nature and destroy the Earth!" Of course they are,but this way they set up him to stop something truly stupid so they can point their fingers at their truly stupid followers and scream "Trump and the Republicans hate kittens and human babies,and THERE IS THE PROOF!" It's the political warfare equivalent of having a hook to hang their enemies hats on. Welcome back pete, GI misses you and posts something stupid about you nearly every day.
Well,he going to have to eat his little heart out,because I am a dedicated heterosexual,and no amount of flirting from Fire Island is ever going to change that. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #13. To: sneakypete, hondo68, GrandIsland (#12) GI is a bullshitter. He is full of FAKENEWS. Welcome back, Pete.
#14. To: buckeroo (#13) Stinky Peter Puffer Stone reunited a few Ho-mo's. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #15. To: GrandIsland (#14) Go fuck yourself. You are probably used to it.
#16. To: GrandIsland (#14) Stone reunited a few Ho-mo's. lol No need to be getting your panties all wet,Fire Island. It's only in your fevered dreams that I am a homo. You might try Bathhouse Barry,though. He's available now,and the word is he likes white boys. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #17. To: sneakypete (#16) (Edited) So says the faggot family patriarch. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #18. To: GrandIsland (#17) Many of us worry about focus concerning faggots. Is that what you do in New York?
#19. To: buckeroo (#18) Keep up with current events, dip shit libtard. I moved out of Nazi occupied NY in 2014. Go ask your paultard buddy, tpaine, why he willingly still lives in Nazi occupied Mexifornia. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #20. To: GrandIsland (#19) Is it possible that you can ensure the viability of your commitment towards real Americans when you make a post? I recognize your commitment about sucking Yukon's penis but you have TO stop those antics on a publick channel wherein, children may view your strange sexual behavior?
#21. To: buckeroo (#20) Yukon I'm thinking you were sodomized by someone from Alaska... at a very young age. Grandpa? There must be some valid reason why the poster named Yukon, who hasn't posted on here for years, still pulls your libtard strings. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #22. To: GrandIsland (#21) Because you sucked Yukon's dick for many years doesn't give you any exemptions or exclusions for and about your queerness. In no way am I going to help you out of this one. Fuck off.
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