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Title: Conservative Christians pan 'prosperity gospel' Trump inaugural preacher
Source: Washington Examiner
URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c ... ral-preacher/article/2610564#!
Published: Jan 2, 2017
Author: W. James Antle III
Post Date: 2017-01-02 09:54:21 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 20739
Comments: 166

Prominent conservative Christians are up in arms about President-elect Trump's choice of a controversial televangelist to deliver one of the prayers at his inauguration on Jan. 20.

Florida's Paula White, age 50, will join Franklin Graham, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other religious leaders in participating in the Trump inaugural festivities. Unlike the others, White is a proponent of the "prosperity gospel" — the belief that God blesses the faithful with health and wealth — who has come under attack for her theology, marital history and finances.

"Paula White is a trinity denying heretic," wrote conservative Christian commentator Erick Erickson. "She rejects the Council of Nicaea's creed that every Christian accepts. To reject the orthodoxy of the Nicene Creed is to reject Christianity itself."

"Paula White is a charlatan and recognized as a heretic by every orthodox Christian, of whatever tribe," echoed Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

"Paula White has a long history of bankruptcies, failed business ventures, and unsuccessful marriages, which makes her the perfect choice to deliver a prayer on behalf a president-elect who has proudly proclaimed that he's never felt the need to ask forgiveness from God for anything," complained Paula Bolyard in a post titled "Twice Divorced Paula White Praying at Trump Inaugural Exactly What We Expected."

White delivered the benediction on the first day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July, where Trump was nominated for president.

The loudest voices against White are anti-Trump evangelicals who have been warning their coreligionists against the president-elect since the campaign. But many Christians regard the prosperity gospel as incompatible with Scripture and view pastors who promote it as likely to take financial advantage of their flocks.

White has drawn attention for her own lavish lifestyle, as the owner of expensive homes (including an apartment at Trump Towers) and cars. The Tampa Tribune reported that her broadcast business earned between $50,000 to $80,000 a week while a decade ago she and her then-husband were taking compensating ranging from $600,000 to $1.5 million a year.

Erickson argues that her theological problems go beyond the prosperity gospel to rejecting core Christian doctrines agreed upon across denominations, as evidenced by comments she made to worshippers that were captured on video.

"The President of the United States putting a heretic on stage who claims to believe in Jesus, but does not really believe in Jesus, risks leading others astray," he wrote. "Christians have an obligation to speak in defense of their faith. Trump letting this heretic pray in Jesus's name should offend every Bible believing Christian."

"I'd rather a Hindu pray on Inauguration Day and not risk the souls of men, than one whose heresy lures in souls with promises of comfort only to damn them in eternity," Erickson concluded. "At least no one would mistake a Hindu, a Buddhist, or an atheist with being a representative of Christ's kingdom."

In the "What We Believe" section of the website for White's ministry, she explicitly affirms a belief in the trinity.

While much of the organized Christian right supported Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio in the Republican primaries, Trump made peace with these organizations by promising to appoint conservative judges and generally hew to a socially conservative agenda.

Trump won 80 percent of white born-again or evangelical Christians, according to the exit polls. That was better than not only Mitt Romney, a Mormon, in 2012, but also evangelical George W. Bush in 2004.

But the president-elect had natural appeal to prosperity gospel preachers, as his own self-help advice is a more secularized version of that message. Trump's parents attended a church pastored by Norman Vincent Peale, the Methodist turned Reformed author of "The Power of Positive Thinking."

Peale's teachings were a precursor of sorts to the prosperity gospel. The preacher, who died in 1993, performed Trump's wedding to his first wife Ivana. Peale's successor presided over Trump's wedding to his second wife Marla Maples.

The prosperity gospel is also an opening to broaden Trump's appeal across racial lines, as the tradition has made inroads in the black church. White herself has led a megachurch with a predominantly black congregation.

White chairs Trump's evangelical advisory board. She has organized meetings between Trump and other pastors. White is one of six clergy scheduled to pray, speak or read at Trump's inaugural, including some who have disagreed with the president-elect on immigration.

White's second husband was the evangelist Randy White, with whom she partnered in ministry. Her current husband is Jonathan Cain, a member of the rock band Journey.


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#3. To: Willie Green (#0)

evangelical George W. Bush in 2004

Bush was an evangelical moron.

rlk  posted on  2017-01-02   15:42:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: rlk (#3)

evangelical George W. Bush in 2004 Bush was an evangelical moron.

He is not Evangelical. He's a Methodist.

The article left out quite a few facts and got a few wrong. Evangelicals actually voted 79% for Trump but 81% for Romney.

It was what is called the notional Christian vote which put Trump over the top:

Notional Christians broke for Trump

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   1:41:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: redleghunter (#25)

evangelical George W. Bush in 2004 Bush was an evangelical moron.

He is not Evangelical. He's a Methodist.

He is, and always has been, a childish asshole.

rlk  posted on  2017-01-04   13:59:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: rlk (#36) (Edited)

"evangelical George W. Bush in 2004 Bush was an evangelical moron." He is not Evangelical. He's a Methodist."

He is, and always has been, a childish asshole.

Whether you call him Methodist or evangelical, the Revelation has nothing but good things to say about George W Bush because he killed the SOB who dried up the Euphrates where human life began in order to start the Battle of Ar Mageddon and get back at George Bush Sr and his son. Anyone who messes with a Christian nation must be killed Jesus says. And George Bush Jr knows the Bible very well and he correctly identified the Axis of Evil east of the Euphrates that is to start (has started) the Battle of Ar Mageddon. He is definitely not a moron, and not childish. He is very smart and knows his Bible, and was only obeying Jesus.

And the Battle of Ar Mageddon is actually good, because it will result in all the bad Muslims all over the earth being killed off just as Saddam Hussein was. Then there will be peace for a thousand years.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   16:33:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: interpreter (#41)

Whether you call him Methodist or evangelical, the Revelation has nothing but good things to say about George W Bush because he killed the SOB who dried up the Euphrates where human life began in order to start the Battle of Ar Mageddon and get back at George Bush Sr and his son.

I pointed out to you a year ago the Euphrates did not dry up.

I believe you indicated a time frame, one in which I was actually in Iraq drinking ROPU water taken from both the Tigris and Euphrates.

Saddam did dry up some canals but the rivers kept flowing.

As in an important operations position in Iraq I think I would have also noticed millions of troops from the East pouring through Iraq.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   17:54:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: redleghunter (#43) (Edited)

I pointed out to you a year ago the Euphrates did not dry up.

I believe you indicated a time frame, one in which I was actually in Iraq drinking ROPU water taken from both the Tigris and Euphrates.

Saddam did dry up some canals but the rivers kept flowing.

As in an important operations position in Iraq I think I would have also noticed millions of troops from the East pouring through Iraq.

You are badly mistaken because it has dried up three times now. And every time it happens something bad happens. Here are the references I have cited in my book for the three times it dried up:

1. A University of Texas map, based on aerial photos of Iraq and dated June 1994, shows the lower fifty miles of the Euphrates as being completely dry. It is included in a CIA report titled, “The Destruction of Iraq’s Marshes” (Report Number IA 94-10020). 2. Source: www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/world/middleeast/14euphrates.html?_r=0 3. Source: www.thetrumpet.com/article/11828.19.0.0/middle-east/turkey-dries- up-the- euphrates

The first time, 9/11 happened. The second time, the Iraqi PM ordered all our troops out of Iraq. The third time, ISIS was born.

I now have my home-boy, Jerry Kramer, a missionary from my church, keeping an eye on the Euphrates in Mosul every day and reporting to me whenever the Euphrates gets low and starts to dry up, so that I can warn everybody that something bad is about to happen.

Are you trying to tell me you did not see ISIS pouring into Iraq?

Besides pointing to Raqqa and ISIS, the spot where the Euphrates dried up 3 times forms a vector with Jerusalem that when extended eastward also points to, and bisects, Kabul and Tehran and of course Baghdad. They are the 4 capitals of the demon-possessed kings that start the Battle of Ar Mageddon. The Revelation does not say however that all of them actually cross the Euphrates. The remaining demon-possessed capital we now have to look out for is Tehran.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   18:47:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: interpreter (#44)

1. A University of Texas map, based on aerial photos of Iraq and dated June 1994, shows the lower fifty miles of the Euphrates as being completely dry. It is included in a CIA report titled, “The Destruction of Iraq’s Marshes”

Again your source says partially dried up. Only fifty miles. Assuming your source is accurate.

The Length of the Euphrates is 1,740 miles. That means 2.8735632183908044 percent of it was dry.

The Bible says in Revelation 16:12-15King James Version (KJV)

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up,

It doesn't say 2.8735632183908044 percent of it will dry up. It says it will dry up.

You're a joke and a clown.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-05   22:55:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: A K A Stone (#86)

Again your source says partially dried up. Only fifty miles. Assuming your source is accurate.

The Length of the Euphrates is 1,740 miles. That means 2.8735632183908044 percent of it was dry.

The Bible says in Revelation 16:12-15King James Version (KJV)

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up,

It doesn't say 2.8735632183908044 percent of it will dry up. It says it will dry up.

You're a joke and a clown.

You are a bald face liar. And I can easily prove it, but I dont have the map in question on my new computer, a laptop, and I guess I will have to retrieve my old desktop from my mini-warehouse and fire it up and post the UT/CIA map on LF just for you Mr. Goofy and for Mr. Red herring. But is a huge map and I'm not sure you will be able to read it after it is shrunk down enough to fit on this site, but it very plainly says that 50 miles of the Euphrates was COMPLETELY dry. And if you guys don't believe the CIA, you are completely hopeless and I am not going to continue this ridiculous conversation for another minute.

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#92. To: interpreter (#91)

And if you guys don't believe the CIA, you are completely hopeless and I am not going to continue this ridiculous conversation for another minute.

No I don't trust the CIA. They tried fooling Soldiers and Airmen into killing an innocent man and his family in Iraq.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-06 01:43:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: interpreter (#91)

You are a bald face liar.

Where did I lie. I quoted from your link. Then I did the math.

You are a stupid person. A clown. Someone to laugh at not be listened to. No serious person thinks highly of you.

You have never predicted anything correctly. Not once. Not even what time the sun rises.

You are so dumb you think that people seen in boats (your source) means it is dried up. Here is a clue for you dimwit. I* there is a boat on the river. There is water there.

Why would you need some alleged computer in some alleged warehouse? Don't you know how to use google to find maps? You're a clown and you're full of shit.

You don't lead people to christ. You lead them away. You make chrisians look stupid. But it is just you that is stupid. You are also a liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-06 09:17:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: interpreter (#91)

And if you guys don't believe the CIA, you are completely hopeless

If you believer the CIA you don't believe Jesus. You are a false teacher, a hell log.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-06 09:18:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: interpreter (#91)

And if you guys don't believe the CIA, you are completely hopeless and I am not going to continue this ridiculous conversation for another minute.

You've been exposed as a fraud. That is what frauds do. They run along somewhere else to try and fool someone else with their gypsy tactics.

So go ahead run along coward liar.

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