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Title: Conservative Christians pan 'prosperity gospel' Trump inaugural preacher
Source: Washington Examiner
URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c ... ral-preacher/article/2610564#!
Published: Jan 2, 2017
Author: W. James Antle III
Post Date: 2017-01-02 09:54:21 by Willie Green
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Comments: 166

Prominent conservative Christians are up in arms about President-elect Trump's choice of a controversial televangelist to deliver one of the prayers at his inauguration on Jan. 20.

Florida's Paula White, age 50, will join Franklin Graham, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other religious leaders in participating in the Trump inaugural festivities. Unlike the others, White is a proponent of the "prosperity gospel" — the belief that God blesses the faithful with health and wealth — who has come under attack for her theology, marital history and finances.

"Paula White is a trinity denying heretic," wrote conservative Christian commentator Erick Erickson. "She rejects the Council of Nicaea's creed that every Christian accepts. To reject the orthodoxy of the Nicene Creed is to reject Christianity itself."

"Paula White is a charlatan and recognized as a heretic by every orthodox Christian, of whatever tribe," echoed Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

"Paula White has a long history of bankruptcies, failed business ventures, and unsuccessful marriages, which makes her the perfect choice to deliver a prayer on behalf a president-elect who has proudly proclaimed that he's never felt the need to ask forgiveness from God for anything," complained Paula Bolyard in a post titled "Twice Divorced Paula White Praying at Trump Inaugural Exactly What We Expected."

White delivered the benediction on the first day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July, where Trump was nominated for president.

The loudest voices against White are anti-Trump evangelicals who have been warning their coreligionists against the president-elect since the campaign. But many Christians regard the prosperity gospel as incompatible with Scripture and view pastors who promote it as likely to take financial advantage of their flocks.

White has drawn attention for her own lavish lifestyle, as the owner of expensive homes (including an apartment at Trump Towers) and cars. The Tampa Tribune reported that her broadcast business earned between $50,000 to $80,000 a week while a decade ago she and her then-husband were taking compensating ranging from $600,000 to $1.5 million a year.

Erickson argues that her theological problems go beyond the prosperity gospel to rejecting core Christian doctrines agreed upon across denominations, as evidenced by comments she made to worshippers that were captured on video.

"The President of the United States putting a heretic on stage who claims to believe in Jesus, but does not really believe in Jesus, risks leading others astray," he wrote. "Christians have an obligation to speak in defense of their faith. Trump letting this heretic pray in Jesus's name should offend every Bible believing Christian."

"I'd rather a Hindu pray on Inauguration Day and not risk the souls of men, than one whose heresy lures in souls with promises of comfort only to damn them in eternity," Erickson concluded. "At least no one would mistake a Hindu, a Buddhist, or an atheist with being a representative of Christ's kingdom."

In the "What We Believe" section of the website for White's ministry, she explicitly affirms a belief in the trinity.

While much of the organized Christian right supported Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio in the Republican primaries, Trump made peace with these organizations by promising to appoint conservative judges and generally hew to a socially conservative agenda.

Trump won 80 percent of white born-again or evangelical Christians, according to the exit polls. That was better than not only Mitt Romney, a Mormon, in 2012, but also evangelical George W. Bush in 2004.

But the president-elect had natural appeal to prosperity gospel preachers, as his own self-help advice is a more secularized version of that message. Trump's parents attended a church pastored by Norman Vincent Peale, the Methodist turned Reformed author of "The Power of Positive Thinking."

Peale's teachings were a precursor of sorts to the prosperity gospel. The preacher, who died in 1993, performed Trump's wedding to his first wife Ivana. Peale's successor presided over Trump's wedding to his second wife Marla Maples.

The prosperity gospel is also an opening to broaden Trump's appeal across racial lines, as the tradition has made inroads in the black church. White herself has led a megachurch with a predominantly black congregation.

White chairs Trump's evangelical advisory board. She has organized meetings between Trump and other pastors. White is one of six clergy scheduled to pray, speak or read at Trump's inaugural, including some who have disagreed with the president-elect on immigration.

White's second husband was the evangelist Randy White, with whom she partnered in ministry. Her current husband is Jonathan Cain, a member of the rock band Journey.


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#40. To: Deckard (#39)

The seven hills you refer to are the seven hills on which Rome stands.

There you go again spouting absurd futurist nonsense. There are many cities that sit on 7 hills including Moscow. And Rome only sits on one sea, for God's sake. Only Moscow sits on many seas, i.e., 5 seas, and no other city even comes close to that feat.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   16:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: rlk (#36)
(Edited)

"evangelical George W. Bush in 2004 Bush was an evangelical moron." He is not Evangelical. He's a Methodist."

He is, and always has been, a childish asshole.

Whether you call him Methodist or evangelical, the Revelation has nothing but good things to say about George W Bush because he killed the SOB who dried up the Euphrates where human life began in order to start the Battle of Ar Mageddon and get back at George Bush Sr and his son. Anyone who messes with a Christian nation must be killed Jesus says. And George Bush Jr knows the Bible very well and he correctly identified the Axis of Evil east of the Euphrates that is to start (has started) the Battle of Ar Mageddon. He is definitely not a moron, and not childish. He is very smart and knows his Bible, and was only obeying Jesus.

And the Battle of Ar Mageddon is actually good, because it will result in all the bad Muslims all over the earth being killed off just as Saddam Hussein was. Then there will be peace for a thousand years.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   16:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone, interpreter (#30)

Chapter and verse moron where it says "the antichrist" It doesn't. You are a liar.

The "man of sin" was used by Paul. Which indeed some theologians in antiquity and today short hand for the masses as "the anti-christ".

Here's how Paul explained it to the Thessalonians:

2 Thessalonians 2: KJV

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Which already pointed out by you the beast in Revelation fits the "man of sin" description of Paul.

I will note a great falling away from the faith precedes the man of sin. We seem headed in that direction and why these prophecies are yet future. I tend to agree AKA the man of sin or beast will have worldwide influence and power as the Scriptures indicate.

What meaning to Chinese in WW2 was Hitler? They were too busy and shocked watching Tojos minions impale children on spears.

Here's what Irenaeus a second century Christian bishop and theologian wrote:

Against Heresies Book V chapter 30:

Moreover, another danger, by no means trifling, shall overtake those who falsely presume that they know the name of Antichrist. For if these men assume one [number], when this [Antichrist] shall come having another, they will be easily led away by him, as supposing him not to be the expected one, who must be guarded against.

2. These men, therefore, ought to learn [what really is the state of the case], and go back to the true number of the name, that they be not reckoned among false prophets. But, knowing the sure number declared by Scripture, that is, six hundred sixty and six, let them await, in the first place, the division of the kingdom into ten; then, in the next place, when these kings are reigning, and beginning to set their affairs in order, and advance their kingdom, [let them learn] to acknowledge that he who shall come claiming the kingdom for himself, and shall terrify those men of whom we have been speaking, having a name containing the aforesaid number, is truly the abomination of desolation. ...

3. It is therefore more certain, and less hazardous, to await the fulfillment of the prophecy, than to be making surmises, and casting about for any names that may present themselves, inasmuch as many names can be found possessing the number mentioned; and the same question will, after all, remain unsolved. For if there are many names found possessing this number, it will be asked which among them shall the coming man bear. It is not through a want of names containing the number of that name that I say this, but on account of the fear of God, and zeal for the truth: for the name Evanthas (EUAN QAS) contains the required number, but I make no allegation regarding it. Then also Lateinos (LATEINOS) has the number six hundred and sixty-six; and it is a very probable [solution], this being the name of the last kingdom [of the four seen by Daniel]. For the Latins are they who at present bear rule: ...

I advise caution as Irenaeus does.

Jesus Christ returned as conquering King in AD 312? No serious historian, theologian or patrician believed or believes this. The Nicene creed indicates a future second Advent of Jesus Christ. Most of the ancient churches remain pious on the details, however Revelation 19 is quite descriptive. Jesus will come again as Judge and will deal directly with the nations and directly with the beast and false prophet.

Revelation 19:

19 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

The thought or implication, Christians living in the world but not of it, will somehow take the world positions of power, use armies to defeat Islam and usher in worldwide peace is absent from the Bible. These are machinations of man and a heretical following of Dominionism.

Christians continue to be tortured, imprisoned and murdered throughout the world, more are falling away from the Faith than coming to it, and Israel as a political and geographic power is a reality.

The man of sin may be revealed soon, or 1000 years from now.

What's important? Is each one of us personally prepared for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Are you personally prepared to meet Him when you take your last breath?

Will you be greeted as a friend or adversary?

This is what's important for Christians to focus on...The Great Commission to preach His Gospel to the lost and seeking.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   17:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: interpreter (#41)

Whether you call him Methodist or evangelical, the Revelation has nothing but good things to say about George W Bush because he killed the SOB who dried up the Euphrates where human life began in order to start the Battle of Ar Mageddon and get back at George Bush Sr and his son.

I pointed out to you a year ago the Euphrates did not dry up.

I believe you indicated a time frame, one in which I was actually in Iraq drinking ROPU water taken from both the Tigris and Euphrates.

Saddam did dry up some canals but the rivers kept flowing.

As in an important operations position in Iraq I think I would have also noticed millions of troops from the East pouring through Iraq.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   17:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: redleghunter (#43) (Edited)

I pointed out to you a year ago the Euphrates did not dry up.

I believe you indicated a time frame, one in which I was actually in Iraq drinking ROPU water taken from both the Tigris and Euphrates.

Saddam did dry up some canals but the rivers kept flowing.

As in an important operations position in Iraq I think I would have also noticed millions of troops from the East pouring through Iraq.

You are badly mistaken because it has dried up three times now. And every time it happens something bad happens. Here are the references I have cited in my book for the three times it dried up:

1. A University of Texas map, based on aerial photos of Iraq and dated June 1994, shows the lower fifty miles of the Euphrates as being completely dry. It is included in a CIA report titled, “The Destruction of Iraq’s Marshes” (Report Number IA 94-10020). 2. Source: www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/world/middleeast/14euphrates.html?_r=0 3. Source: www.thetrumpet.com/article/11828.19.0.0/middle-east/turkey-dries- up-the- euphrates

The first time, 9/11 happened. The second time, the Iraqi PM ordered all our troops out of Iraq. The third time, ISIS was born.

I now have my home-boy, Jerry Kramer, a missionary from my church, keeping an eye on the Euphrates in Mosul every day and reporting to me whenever the Euphrates gets low and starts to dry up, so that I can warn everybody that something bad is about to happen.

Are you trying to tell me you did not see ISIS pouring into Iraq?

Besides pointing to Raqqa and ISIS, the spot where the Euphrates dried up 3 times forms a vector with Jerusalem that when extended eastward also points to, and bisects, Kabul and Tehran and of course Baghdad. They are the 4 capitals of the demon-possessed kings that start the Battle of Ar Mageddon. The Revelation does not say however that all of them actually cross the Euphrates. The remaining demon-possessed capital we now have to look out for is Tehran.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   18:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: redleghunter (#42) (Edited)

The man of sin may be revealed soon, or 1000 years from now.

What's important? Is each one of us personally prepared for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Are you personally prepared to meet Him when you take your last breath?

Will you be greeted as a friend or adversary?

This is what's important for Christians to focus on...The Great Commission to preach His Gospel to the lost and seeking.

Like all futurists, you are loco en la cabeza. The history books tell us that Jesus returned over 1700 years ago, in 312AD. There are two "men of sin" that have appeared since then. The first one, the 7th head of Satan, was Mohammed. His followers trampled Jerusalem underfoot for exactly 1260 years as prophesied. The second one, the 8th head of Satan, was Hitler. He caused great tribulation for 1260 days as prophesied.

Besides the Great Commission, Jesus also gave us a command to kill all of His enemies (see Luke 19:27). I am guaranteed a mansion in heaven because I helped kill some enemies of Jesus in Viet Nam. My only regret is that I am now too old to help kill the enemies of Jesus in Iraq (a remnant of the 7th head of Satan). The Good News is, when they are all killed off, Christian nations will then be able to rule the earth in peace for a thousand years!

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   19:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: redleghunter (#42)

The thought or implication, Christians living in the world but not of it, will somehow take the world positions of power, use armies to defeat Islam and usher in worldwide peace is absent from the Bible. These are machinations of man and a heretical following of Dominionism.

If you are not a dominionist then I pity you. You have been deceived by the devil, and the devil loves it because your view typically causes Christians to be a wimp and not fight for their Christian nation. (Not you obviously, but your false preaching may cause other Christians to not fight for their country, and you need to stop it. It is not pleasing to Jesus).

And nothing I say is absent from the Bible. If it were not in the Bible, I wouldn't say it. The whole Revelation, from beginning to end is all about Christians conquering and killing off the last three heads of Satan. If you want the chapter and verse for anything I've said, just ask me and I will gladly give it to you.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   20:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: redleghunter (#42)

I know people call him the antichrist and who they are referring to.

My point is they call him the beast. He is an antichrist.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-04   21:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: redleghunter (#42)

Jesus Christ returned as conquering King in AD 312? No serious historian, theologian or patrician believed or believes this. The Nicene creed indicates a future second Advent of Jesus Christ. Most of the ancient churches remain pious on the details, however Revelation 19 is quite descriptive. Jesus will come again as Judge and will deal directly with the nations and directly with the beast and false prophet.

All of the world history books say Jesus returned in 312 AD, on Oct 27th when the the sign of Christ (a Chi-Rho, the first two letters of Christ) appeared in the clouds, and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine and said, "By this conquer." And that's what Constantine promptly did. After putting the chi-rho on his labarum and on all his army's armor, he got on his white horse, and carrying a bow he conquered Rome and all the known world for jesus and His Church. The history books also say that ever since that day, Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth. Or at least all world history books used to say that, but nowadays, atheists and Muslims and Buddhist, etc. have forced some school districts to rewrite history and take all that out (because it offends them).

The US, founded by George Washington who rode a very pale (or sickly- looking) horse named Blueskin is the 4th horseman to rule the earth for Jesus. Our weapons bring hell and death to His enemies.

And you are wrong about me not agreeing with the Nicene Creed. In my book, I say that the 5 horsemen are five dispensations of the second coming. And my Christian book publisher, who says I have to agree with the Nicene Creed, is fine with that, and so is my Church which also says I have to agree with the Nicene Creed. And likewise all the other ancient Churches that I have shown my book to are OK with it.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   21:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: interpreter (#44) (Edited)

The link goes to an article from 2009. The article says dwindling and mentions the marshland drying up. The river still flowed. This is a minimalist approach to make your predictions fit current events. God has always fulfilled prophecy on a grand scale. Your eisegesis is unconvincing.

ISIS is not an Army from the East is not gathering the whole world:

Revelation 16:

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   22:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: redleghunter (#49) (Edited)

he link goes to an article from 2009. The article says dwindling and mentions the marshland drying up. The river still flowed. This is a minimalist approach to make your predictions fit current events. God has always fulfilled prophecy on a grand scale. Your eisegesis is unconvincing.

ISIS is not an Army from the East is not gathering the whole world:

Do you also think the University of Texas and the CIA are lying? If you do, you are hopeless and I do not intend to waste any more of my time trying to talk some sense into you. And my friend, Jerry Kramer the holiest man I know, also confirms the Euphrates was dry in Mosul one time since he has been there. He ministers to millions of refugees in Iraq just 5 or 6 miles from where all the fighting is going as we speak and his refugee camp is on the banks of the Euphrates so he oughta know. He is pleading with me and other members of my church to come to Iraq to help him feed and provide blankets for the neediest of the world's needy (or else send money). And I am considering doing both after my book starts bringing in money. Are you still in Iraq? I may see you soon. And it would be a first for me, to try to save the enemies of Jesus instead of killing them. But Jerry is doing it, so it can be done. He has converted thousands and thousands of Muslims through kindness.

And despite what you say, ISIS is definitely an army from the east. Where, pray tell, do you think Raqqa is? The "way" (or vector) formed by lining up Jerusalem with where the Euphrates keeps drying up and extending it eastward perfectly points to, and bisects Raqqa. Virtually any proposed interpretation of anything in the Revelation can easily be proven or disproven by the vectors Jesus has woven into the Revelation.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   1:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: interpreter (#45)

The history books tell us that Jesus returned over 1700 years ago, in 312AD.

Prove it. Show me where any credible historian, Church doctor or theologian made this claim.

Constantine saw a cross in the sky before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Compare this miniscule vision of one man to the utter carnage depicted and Glorious return of Christ in Revelation 19 as I posted.

You are a victim of your own low balling eisegesis. You make things to conform your predispositions.

What ancient church shares your eschatology? I'm curious.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   2:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: interpreter (#46)

If you are not a dominionist then I pity you. You have been deceived by the devil, and the devil loves it because your view typically causes Christians to be a wimp and not fight for their Christian nation. (Not you obviously, but your false preaching may cause other Christians to not fight for their country, and you need to stop it. It is not pleasing to Jesus).

Where are the commands of Christ to take up arms in His name for Christians to rule the world? Defending nations from invaders has always been the matter of nation states and kingdoms. Christ is not Muhammad commanding His followers to spread the faith by the sword. That is what Satan wants...Christians to act like the death cult of Islam. Every Biblical passage on the Second Coming has Christ as conquering King and His hosts of heaven fighting.

Your views are even way off from the Kingdom-Dominion eschatology. Are you Sydney Anglican?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   2:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: interpreter (#50)

And despite what you say, ISIS is definitely an army from the east. Where, pray tell, do you think Raqqa is? The "way" (or vector) formed by lining up Jerusalem with where the Euphrates keeps drying up and extending it eastward perfectly points to, and bisects Raqqa. Virtually any proposed interpretation of anything in the Revelation can easily be proven or disproven by the vectors Jesus has woven into the Revelation.

Al Raqqa is in Syria.

There's your first mistake. How is that even remotely connected to the kings of the east in Revelation 16?

Not even close.

So now the Euphrates is drying up in Syria?

Please get a map.

The small town of Raqqa next to Samarra Iraq is along the Tigris and not Euphrates river. If that is the Raqqa you were referring to. If so wrong river.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   3:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: redleghunter (#51) (Edited)

Prove it. Show me where any credible historian, Church doctor or theologian made this claim.

Constantine saw a cross in the sky before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Compare this miniscule vision of one man to the utter carnage depicted and Glorious return of Christ in Revelation 19 as I posted.

You are a victim of your own low balling eisegesis. You make things to conform your predispositions.

What ancient church shares your eschatology? I'm curious.

Like I already said, ALL world history books used to say that (back when I went to school) but nowadays atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. have forced many school districts and history-book publishers to rewrite history and take that out (because it offends them). Nonetheless, there are a few historians who still say much the same thing. For example, Robert Thorvat says,

"On the 28th of October, AD 312, Constantine The Great “faced off” with Maxentius in what became known as the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Though no one probably realized this at the time, the Battle of the Milvian Bridge would become one of those historical turning points that would set world history down a new path whether for better or worse."

(Source: https://roberthorvat30.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/the-battle-of-the- milvian-bridge-on-this-day-in-history/)

Also, like I have already said, Constantine saw a Chi-Rho (the first 2 letters of Christ), and not a cross. You can see it too with any star- tracking software set to the evening of Oct. 27, 312 AD. The Chi-Rho is prominently displayed in all ancient Churches, usually directly above the "Holy of Holies" (where the communion bread and wine is prepared). It means "By this, conquer" just as Jesus told Constantine that night. And the entire Revelation, from beginning to end, is about Christians conquering the earth (and taking it back from the last three heads of Satan -- pagan Rome, Muslims and NAZI's).

And Revelation 19 is NOT the return of Christ. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus returns twice. I don't care to give away any more of my book on LF. If you want to know who the 5th horseman is, you will have to buy my book, The Revelation: a Historicist View (out soon, or you can pre-order it from Westbow Press). But I will give you a clue. I'm predicting that the fifth horseman will join NATO in 2017, and complete the picture of the 24 Christian nations that will rule the earth for Jesus for the next 1000 years. Over the next few decades (or centuries) this tiny eastern-Europe nation (the smallest in NATO) that has never been defeated (by the Islamic hordes, or by the NAZI's or anyone) and has conquered to the end will be blessed by God and increase in size and power until it replaces the US as the most powerful nation on earth. (Hard to believe now, but that's what the Revelation indicates).

One of the ancient Churches that is OK with my book is my church (the Episcopalian/Anglican Church).

And when I first started studying the Revelation, I had no predispositions whatsoever, and studied it with a completely open mind (unlike futurists).

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   7:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: redleghunter (#53)

Al Raqqa is in Syria.

There's your first mistake. How is that even remotely connected to the kings of the east in Revelation 16?

Not even close.

So now the Euphrates is drying up in Syria?

Please get a map.

The small town of Raqqa next to Samarra Iraq is along the Tigris and not Euphrates river. If that is the Raqqa you were referring to. If so wrong river.

As everyone on earth knows (except you) Raqqa is the capital of the ISIS caliphate, and the "king" (or Caliph) of ISIS lives in Raqqa. And I never said Raqqa is on the Euphrates. I said it is east of the Euphrates. Why do you twist around everything I say and say I said something I didn't say? It is very irritating, and you need to stop it or else I'm not going continue this conversation.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   7:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: redleghunter (#52) (Edited)

Where are the commands of Christ to take up arms in His name for Christians to rule the world?

Luke 19:27 (and also in many verses in the Revelation).

And yes, Mohammed said much the same thing. The main difference is, and the Good News is, Christians win the battle for the earth, and the Muslims lose.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   7:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: interpreter (#54)

Like I already said, ALL world history books used to say that (back when I went to school) but nowadays atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. have forced many school districts and history-book publishers to rewrite history and take that out (because it offends them). Nonetheless, there are a few historians who still say much the same thing. For example, Robert Thorvat says,

Ok so the answer is "no", you don't have a source.

I would think one church council or even renown theologian would share your view. Guess not.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   12:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: interpreter (#54)

And Revelation 19 is NOT the return of Christ. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus returns twice.

Considering AD 312 was not the Return of Christ, means He is yet to come.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   12:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: interpreter (#56)

Where are the commands of Christ to take up arms in His name for Christians to rule the world?

Luke 19:27 (and also in many verses in the Revelation).

This is a parable.

Not surprising. Just about all error is extracted from a parable.

The parable is about reward and judgment at Christ's second coming.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   12:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: interpreter (#55)

As everyone on earth knows (except you) Raqqa is the capital of the ISIS caliphate, and the "king" (or Caliph) of ISIS lives in Raqqa. And I never said Raqqa is on the Euphrates. I said it is east of the Euphrates. Why do you twist around everything I say and say I said something I didn't say? It is very irritating, and you need to stop it or else I'm not going continue this conversation.

Lol of course I know Al Raqqa. I am still given intelligence briefs and have access to material you could only dream of. Why I find your geopolitical ramblings quite entertaining.

Al Raqqa is not kings of the East. ISIS did not have to cross any dry rivers to get there. There are plenty of bridges still intact. Those Syria- Iraq-Jordan rat lines go back centuries.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   12:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: interpreter (#55)

It is very irritating, and you need to stop it or else I'm not going continue this conversation.

If you cannot take criticism, perhaps you are in the wrong business.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   12:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: interpreter (#55)

He's whoopin you.

I'd take what his insight into the Bible over yours 7 days a week 365 days a year.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-05   12:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: redleghunter (#60)

Lol of course I know Al Raqqa. I am still given intelligence briefs and have access to material you could only dream of. Why I find your geopolitical ramblings quite entertaining.

Al Raqqa is not kings of the East. ISIS did not have to cross any dry rivers to get there. There are plenty of bridges still intact. Those Syria- Iraq-Jordan rat lines go back centuries.

As I have already said, the Revelation does not say anything about anyone crossing a dry river bed. The "way" of the demon possessed kings of the east is the vector formed by the epicenter of where Saddam Hussein dried up the Euphrates in conjunction with Jerusalem. When you draw a straight line between the two and extend it eastward, it points to, and bisects Baghdad, Raqqa, Kabul and Tehran like four sitting ducks in a row. The kings of Baghdad and Kabul are already dead and the king (or Caliph) of Raqqa/ISIS is next. After that we will probably have to deal with the king (or Ayatollah) in Tehran. And everyone knows a Caliph (and/or Ayatollah) is the muslim equivalent of a king, so I cant for the life of me figure out why you say what you say. I guess you just get a kick out of denying everything I say even when the whole world agrees with me (except you).

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   13:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: redleghunter (#61)

If you cannot take criticism, perhaps you are in the wrong business.

I can take criticism if there is even the slightest iota of truth behind it. Anything I say you automatically deny without any basis, and even when I state well known facts that everyone (including the CIA) accepts, you still automatically deny it. That's what is irritating.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   13:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#62)

He's whoopin you.

No, he's looking like an idiot for denying even the most evident of facts about Iraq and ISIS when he's there looking straight at them. And just so he can construe and twist them to agree with his futurist view of the Revelation. He is pathetic.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   14:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: interpreter (#65) (Edited)

Your pastist view of revelation is telling. There was no thousand year reign. It's almost like when the beast antichrist comes you will think he is Jesus.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-05   14:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: interpreter (#64)

I state well known facts that everyone (including the CIA) accepts, you still automatically deny it. That's what is irritating.

You stated a lot of things.

Which are the well known facts that everyone including the CIA accepts?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-05   14:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#67)

If the CIA sez "sumtine" I already know the CIA is an unreliable government agency. They have failed the American People all over the world and all over tyme, since their creation in 1948.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-01-05   14:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: interpreter (#64)

Anything I say you automatically deny without any basis, and even when I state well known facts that everyone (including the CIA) accepts, you still automatically deny it. That's what is irritating.

You are probably the only poster here on LF who trusts the CIA.

I had three direct encounters with the CIA in Iraq.

Masters of manipulation and chaos. They tried killing a key informant we were using and tried convincing my boss to kill an Iraqi politician. Then the crown jewel. They tried getting air support from me after fooling a US Army battalion they were US special forces. That little stunt went up 3 and 4 star channels when I got wind of it.

So please excuse me of trusting NOTHING from the CIA.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   14:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: All (#63)

PS I forgot to add that Saddam Hussein said the main reason he dried up the Euphrates was to bring about (or prepare the way for) the Battle of Ar Mageddon (which the Koran says Muslims will win). That's why he named the canal he dug to drain it the "Mother of All Battles River." So either way you look at it, Saddam prepared the way for (and the vector pointing to) the demon-possessed kings of the east. There was one king who actually crossed the dried up Euphrates and that was Saddam himself. So the prophecy was fulfilled three ways, as are most of the prophesies in the Revelation in order to leave no doubt about their fulfillment (except when it comes to die-hard futurists like the ones on this thread who incredulously and automatically deny ALL of the obvious fulfillments of EVERYTHING in the Revelation).

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   14:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: interpreter (#65)

Try being a man and ping me when you speak poorly of me.

You are a false prophet. Your comments are devoid of Christian charity.

I attacked your concepts, not you personally. Thank you for revealing yourself.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   14:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#66)

Your pastist view of revelation is telling. There was no thousand year reign. It's almost like when the beast antichrist comes you will think he is Jesus.

Hide and watch. The glorious 1000 year reign of the Church will begin either this year or next year.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   14:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#67)

You stated a lot of things.

Which are the well known facts that everyone including the CIA accepts?

For one thing, the CIA says the lower 50 miles of the Euphrates was dry for about 10 years, yet Redleg denies that it was ever dry. Also, the CIA (and everyone else on earth) says Raqqa is the capital of ISIS, and yet the Redleg incredibly denies that too.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   15:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#66)

Your pastist view of revelation is telling. There was no thousand year reign. It's almost like when the beast antichrist comes you will think he is Jesus.

Precisely. This theory of prophecy is very convenient for use by a one world leader who rises to claim he is "God."

All Historicist theologians believe the world will be converted via evangelism of the Gospel. Not the sword. Not even the dominionism movement believes this. They believe seizing political power through elections and evangelism will convince the world to become Christian. Still a far out view but they don't promote violence to obtain the Kingdom.

Every Biblical reference of the Return of Messiah or Day of The Lord, has God directly issuing justice with Revelation 19 depicting the conquering King Jesus Christ.

It goes back to Luke 4 where Jesus firmly establishes His Mission in the First Advent:

Luke 4: KJV

16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

Jesus partially read the prophecy from Isaiah 61. Let's look...

Isaiah 61: King James Version (KJV)

61 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.

4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.

5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.

6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the Lord: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.(KJV)

Notice where Jesus stops. The remainder of the Isaiah 61 prophecy will be fulfilled in His Second Advent.

Notice it is called the day of vengeance of our God.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   15:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: redleghunter (#71)

Try being a man and ping me when you speak poorly of me.

You are a false prophet. Your comments are devoid of Christian charity.

I attacked your concepts, not you personally. Thank you for revealing yourself.

How can anyone help but speak poorly of someone who denies virtually every fact about Iraq even when you are there looking straight at them? And no one in their right mind can possibly say I am a false prophet when EVERYTHING I have predicted in the last 25 years has come to pass. You cannot name one thing I have predicted that did not come true. And nothing, not one thing, that futurists have been predicting for 25+ years has ever come true as far as I know. So who is the false prophet(s)? In Old Testament days, all of today's futurists would have been stoned to death for making even one false prophecy, and definitely for making hundreds of them.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   15:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: interpreter (#73)

For one thing, the CIA says the lower 50 miles of the Euphrates was dry for about 10 years, yet Redleg denies that it was ever dry. Also, the CIA (and everyone else on earth) says Raqqa is the capital of ISIS, and yet the Redleg incredibly denies that too.

50 miles!? I crossed the Euprates in Sothern Iraq several times between 2003 and 2010. Also by Blackhawk and Chinook.

The canals and marsh land were a mess at times but not completely dry. The Iranians were using small boats in the marshes to smuggle in EFP IED components.

Revelation 16: KJV

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.(KJV)

When the entire great river Euphrates dries up as indicated in Revelation 16, give me a holler. Also when the kings of the earth and of the whole world can cross the mud puddles you fixate over, give me a holler.

How you conclude the grubby death cult from Mosul funded and led by Al Douri is the sum total of the kings of the East, is quite a stretch.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   15:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: interpreter (#73)

For one thing, the CIA says the lower 50 miles of the Euphrates was dry for about 10 years, yet Redleg denies that it was ever dry. Also, the CIA (and everyone else on earth) says Raqqa is the capital of ISIS, and yet the Redleg incredibly denies that too.

link please sir.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-05   15:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: interpreter (#75)

How can anyone help but speak poorly of someone who denies virtually every fact about Iraq even when you are there looking straight at them? And no one in their right mind can possibly say I am a false prophet when EVERYTHING I have predicted in the last 25 years has come to pass. You cannot name one thing I have predicted that did not come true. And nothing, not one thing, that futurists have been predicting for 25+ years has ever come true as far as I know. So who is the false prophet(s)? In Old Testament days, all of today's futurists would have been stoned to death for making even one false prophecy, and definitely for making hundreds of them.

You are going off the rails here. Futurists believe the Second Coming is yet to come. Only you and full preterists believe the Second Coming is in the past. Every credal Christian church is awaiting the Return of Jesus Christ in Glory.

Sure there were individuals who predicted Armageddon in their time. They broke the very first rule of Acts 1:

Acts 1: KJV

6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.(KJV)

Pretty simple. The mission given to the disciples was not to concern themselves with timing BUT the mission at hand...The spreading of the Gospel.

Please take this mission to heart.

Taking your minimalist approach to Biblical prophetic passages and geopolitics, anyone could self fulfill any sneeze by Putin. Your approach seeks only to glorify you and not God.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   15:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: redleghunter (#74) (Edited)

Yeah, you read the parts of Luke that you like, but you won't read Luke 19:27. Or the history books which say Jesus returned in 312 AD. Or Revelation 2:7, 2:11, 2:17, 2:26-29, 3:5-6, 3:12-13, 3:21-22, and many other verses in the Revelation that urge Christians to conquer. And the original Greek word means military conquest, yet many faulty Bibles substitute a much milder "overcome." To see what happens to those translators, see Rev 22:18- 19. If you want to know what the Revelation really says, you have to buy my book.

As for what Jesus said in Acts 1:7, that is no longer true. After the fact we now know the day, the hour and minute everything in the Revelation was fulfilled up until Rev 20.

And we are supposed to "self fulfill" everything in the Revelation. It's all up to us because God follows the Star Trek directive. He only only interferes with life on earth when he deems it to be necessary. The next interference will be a thousand years from now when we will have burned up the earth and killed everyone on it.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   16:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: redleghunter (#76) (Edited)

50 miles!? I crossed the Euprates in Sothern Iraq several times between 2003 and 2010. Also by Blackhawk and Chinook.

And it wasn't dry then because as soon we invaded Iraq the lower Euphrates was restored (by the swamp arabs who have lived there since the days of Adam and Eve). (And don't tell me George W didn't do a lot of good).

"Also when the kings of the earth and of the whole world can cross the mud puddles you fixate over, give me a holler."

I have repeatedly told you that the Revelation doesn't say anyone actually crosses the dried-up Euphrates, and I have repeatedly told you what the Revelation IS saying, and its double fulfillment yet you continue to post the same old crap like a broken record. What in the world is wrong with you?

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   16:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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