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Title: Conservative Christians pan 'prosperity gospel' Trump inaugural preacher
Source: Washington Examiner
URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c ... ral-preacher/article/2610564#!
Published: Jan 2, 2017
Author: W. James Antle III
Post Date: 2017-01-02 09:54:21 by Willie Green
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Views: 20650
Comments: 166

Prominent conservative Christians are up in arms about President-elect Trump's choice of a controversial televangelist to deliver one of the prayers at his inauguration on Jan. 20.

Florida's Paula White, age 50, will join Franklin Graham, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other religious leaders in participating in the Trump inaugural festivities. Unlike the others, White is a proponent of the "prosperity gospel" — the belief that God blesses the faithful with health and wealth — who has come under attack for her theology, marital history and finances.

"Paula White is a trinity denying heretic," wrote conservative Christian commentator Erick Erickson. "She rejects the Council of Nicaea's creed that every Christian accepts. To reject the orthodoxy of the Nicene Creed is to reject Christianity itself."

"Paula White is a charlatan and recognized as a heretic by every orthodox Christian, of whatever tribe," echoed Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

"Paula White has a long history of bankruptcies, failed business ventures, and unsuccessful marriages, which makes her the perfect choice to deliver a prayer on behalf a president-elect who has proudly proclaimed that he's never felt the need to ask forgiveness from God for anything," complained Paula Bolyard in a post titled "Twice Divorced Paula White Praying at Trump Inaugural Exactly What We Expected."

White delivered the benediction on the first day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July, where Trump was nominated for president.

The loudest voices against White are anti-Trump evangelicals who have been warning their coreligionists against the president-elect since the campaign. But many Christians regard the prosperity gospel as incompatible with Scripture and view pastors who promote it as likely to take financial advantage of their flocks.

White has drawn attention for her own lavish lifestyle, as the owner of expensive homes (including an apartment at Trump Towers) and cars. The Tampa Tribune reported that her broadcast business earned between $50,000 to $80,000 a week while a decade ago she and her then-husband were taking compensating ranging from $600,000 to $1.5 million a year.

Erickson argues that her theological problems go beyond the prosperity gospel to rejecting core Christian doctrines agreed upon across denominations, as evidenced by comments she made to worshippers that were captured on video.

"The President of the United States putting a heretic on stage who claims to believe in Jesus, but does not really believe in Jesus, risks leading others astray," he wrote. "Christians have an obligation to speak in defense of their faith. Trump letting this heretic pray in Jesus's name should offend every Bible believing Christian."

"I'd rather a Hindu pray on Inauguration Day and not risk the souls of men, than one whose heresy lures in souls with promises of comfort only to damn them in eternity," Erickson concluded. "At least no one would mistake a Hindu, a Buddhist, or an atheist with being a representative of Christ's kingdom."

In the "What We Believe" section of the website for White's ministry, she explicitly affirms a belief in the trinity.

While much of the organized Christian right supported Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio in the Republican primaries, Trump made peace with these organizations by promising to appoint conservative judges and generally hew to a socially conservative agenda.

Trump won 80 percent of white born-again or evangelical Christians, according to the exit polls. That was better than not only Mitt Romney, a Mormon, in 2012, but also evangelical George W. Bush in 2004.

But the president-elect had natural appeal to prosperity gospel preachers, as his own self-help advice is a more secularized version of that message. Trump's parents attended a church pastored by Norman Vincent Peale, the Methodist turned Reformed author of "The Power of Positive Thinking."

Peale's teachings were a precursor of sorts to the prosperity gospel. The preacher, who died in 1993, performed Trump's wedding to his first wife Ivana. Peale's successor presided over Trump's wedding to his second wife Marla Maples.

The prosperity gospel is also an opening to broaden Trump's appeal across racial lines, as the tradition has made inroads in the black church. White herself has led a megachurch with a predominantly black congregation.

White chairs Trump's evangelical advisory board. She has organized meetings between Trump and other pastors. White is one of six clergy scheduled to pray, speak or read at Trump's inaugural, including some who have disagreed with the president-elect on immigration.

White's second husband was the evangelist Randy White, with whom she partnered in ministry. Her current husband is Jonathan Cain, a member of the rock band Journey.


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#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

t many Christians regard the prosperity gospel as incompatible with Scripture

Luke 6:36-42: Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.” He also told them a parable: “Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye.

I don't think women are supposed to be preachers. But there are promises in the Bible that deal with prosperity.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-02   10:54:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I don't think women are supposed to be preachers.

I don't either. "Give not thy soul to woman lest she trample upon thy strength" is a a good principle to live by.

rlk  posted on  2017-01-02   15:51:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rlk, Jeremiah Wright, heretics, Brothers and Sisters in Satan (#4)

“You think I’m overreacting, a sore loser, or some such. And you know damn well that if Jeremiah Wright had said a prayer at Barack Obama’s inauguration you’d be publicly outraged and calling for Obama to reconsider the invitation. Jeremiah Wright’s black liberation theology and Paula White’s prosperity gospel are two sides of the same heretical coin.

“By being outraged about one and not the other, and admit it that you would be and you were upset by Barack Obama attending Wright’s church, you have reduced Jesus Christ to partisan team sport.”

www.inquisitr.com/3842049...-inauguration-invocation/

"Dominion" @: .30

Dominionists, like Rafael and Ted Cruz. They seem to be on the verge of embracing Mohammad as a co-equal "son of God".

Hondo68  posted on  2017-01-02   17:00:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#5) (Edited)

Dominionists, like Rafael and Ted Cruz. They seem to be on the verge of embracing Mohammad as a co-equal "son of God".

I don't know where you get that weird idea. To be a dominionist means you believe Christians and Christian nations are destined to have dominion over all the earth (except Israel which has been given to the jews) just as prophesied over 3000 years ago in Genesis. It is fast coming to pass. I predict that, very soon, Muslims (and atheists, et al) wont have dominion over didily squat.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-03   15:52:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: interpreter (#10)

Eventually there will be a one-world religion as prophesied in the Bible.

The religions will all unite under the banner of the anti-christ.

'One World Religion' Metaphysical Event Gathers Muslims, Jews and Christians to Pray

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   16:08:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#11) (Edited)

Eventually there will be a one-world religion as prophesied in the Bible.

The religions will all unite under the banner of the anti-christ.

'One World Religion' Metaphysical Event Gathers Muslims, Jews and Christians to Pray

You are so full of it. There is only one antichrist and he was Hitler. His Third Reich (of Rome) is the third six of the 666 trilogy. The only religion that will rule all the world is Christianity. And I predict it will happen very, very soon.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-03   16:20:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: interpreter (#12)

There is only one antichrist and he was Hitler. His Third Reich (of Rome) is the third six of the 666 trilogy.

You got to be kidding me! When did Hitler rule the entire world?

When did the entire world take the Mark of the Beast?

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   18:22:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#14) (Edited)

You got to be kidding me! When did Hitler rule the entire world?

When did the entire world take the Mark of the Beast?

It was his plan to rule the whole world, and to not let anyone buy or sell except for his soldiers and officials wearing the swastika on their headgear, and civilians carrying a permit in their hand stamped with the swastika. For the sake of the elect, those days were cut short.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-03   22:44:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: interpreter (#15)

You are full of shit. You are a deceiver.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   23:06:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

The two-horned Lamb, like many things in the Revelation, can be interpreted two ways. Both are equally correct. In the Revelation, a lamb always represents Jesus and/or His Church. The two horns of the Lamb either represent the two Churches that supported Hitler (the Lutheran and Roman Catholic Churches) or the two Popes who supported Hitler (Popes Pius XI and XII). They provided Hitler with his power (i.e, the troops who killed Hitler's enemies with miraculous planes and bombs, and with miraculous subs, tanks, etc. And they caused the world to worship Hitler, and the image he worshipped, that is, the Aryan race.

The Third Reich, or third reign of pagan Rome the 6th head of Satan, was one man, Hitler, who arose after the first two heads of Rome were killed off.

You and all futurists are the deceivers. Jesus said over and over and over again that He would return quickly, and with speed. Yet you guys somehow construe that to mean 2000 years later. That's calling Jesus a liar. I'm going with the history books, which say Jesus returned with a kingdom in 312 AD. The 5 horsemen can be thought of as 5 dispensations of the second coming. We are the 4th horseman to rule the earth for Jesus and kill His enemies.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-03   23:47:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: interpreter (#17)

There hasn't been a thousand years of peace either.

You said only one antichrist. That isn't true. Antichrist is a spirit and the Bible says anyone who rejects christ is antichrist.

It

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   23:51:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

There hasn't been a thousand years of peace either.

You said only one antichrist. That isn't true. Antichrist is a spirit and the Bible says anyone who rejects christ is antichrist.

First come the 7 last plagues which we are experiencing now (global warming, Ar Mageddon, etc.) and then comes the 1000 years of peace. It is insane to say that everything in the Revelation will be cram-packed into 7 years. That is a faulty interpretation of Daniel's 70th week.

And I'm talking about THE antichrist, and the only one mentioned in the Revelation. It is true that in John's epistles he says there are many antichrists who deny that Jesus is God, but that has nothing to do with the antichrist of the Revelation who is a lot worse.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   0:31:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: interpreter (#20)

And I'm talking about THE antichrist, and the only one mentioned in the Revelation.

Where specifically is "the antichrist" mentioned?

There is a "beast" who has the spirit of antichrist. But there are many antichrists.

You don't know anything. You're just a troll looking for laughs.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-04   0:36:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Where specifically is "the antichrist" mentioned?

There is a "beast" who has the spirit of antichrist. But there are many antichrists.

You don't know anything. You're just a troll looking for laughs.

Your argument is so stupid. Where is another antichrist mentioned (in the Revelation), or even someone else with the spirit of the antichrist?

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   0:56:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: interpreter (#24)

Your argument is so stupid. Where is another antichrist mentioned (in the Revelation), or even someone else with the spirit of the antichrist?

It never says the antichrist will do anything. Antichrist is mentioned I think one time in the bible. It is spirit of antichrist not an individual.

Revelation mentions a "beast" not the antichrist.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-04   6:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

It never says the antichrist will do anything. Antichrist is mentioned I think one time in the bible. It is spirit of antichrist not an individual.

Revelation mentions a "beast" not the antichrist.

You are wrong on every count. Hitler is the 8th (or 9th) head of the beast, and the third head # 6. That head is commonly called the antichrist (by everyone except you). And the Revelation very plainly says it is a man. If you want to say that head of Satan (i.e., Hitler) had the "spirit of antichrist" that is OK, but he is definitely a man. You make the most ridiculous arguments I have ever heard. All of the heads of Satan (the beast) are men possessed by Satan. Do you actually believe an animal is going to rule the earth? You are so absurd.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   7:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: interpreter (#28)

Chapter and verse moron where it says "the antichrist" It doesn't. You are a liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-04   10:39:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone, interpreter (#30)

Chapter and verse moron where it says "the antichrist" It doesn't. You are a liar.

The "man of sin" was used by Paul. Which indeed some theologians in antiquity and today short hand for the masses as "the anti-christ".

Here's how Paul explained it to the Thessalonians:

2 Thessalonians 2: KJV

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Which already pointed out by you the beast in Revelation fits the "man of sin" description of Paul.

I will note a great falling away from the faith precedes the man of sin. We seem headed in that direction and why these prophecies are yet future. I tend to agree AKA the man of sin or beast will have worldwide influence and power as the Scriptures indicate.

What meaning to Chinese in WW2 was Hitler? They were too busy and shocked watching Tojos minions impale children on spears.

Here's what Irenaeus a second century Christian bishop and theologian wrote:

Against Heresies Book V chapter 30:

Moreover, another danger, by no means trifling, shall overtake those who falsely presume that they know the name of Antichrist. For if these men assume one [number], when this [Antichrist] shall come having another, they will be easily led away by him, as supposing him not to be the expected one, who must be guarded against.

2. These men, therefore, ought to learn [what really is the state of the case], and go back to the true number of the name, that they be not reckoned among false prophets. But, knowing the sure number declared by Scripture, that is, six hundred sixty and six, let them await, in the first place, the division of the kingdom into ten; then, in the next place, when these kings are reigning, and beginning to set their affairs in order, and advance their kingdom, [let them learn] to acknowledge that he who shall come claiming the kingdom for himself, and shall terrify those men of whom we have been speaking, having a name containing the aforesaid number, is truly the abomination of desolation. ...

3. It is therefore more certain, and less hazardous, to await the fulfillment of the prophecy, than to be making surmises, and casting about for any names that may present themselves, inasmuch as many names can be found possessing the number mentioned; and the same question will, after all, remain unsolved. For if there are many names found possessing this number, it will be asked which among them shall the coming man bear. It is not through a want of names containing the number of that name that I say this, but on account of the fear of God, and zeal for the truth: for the name Evanthas (EUAN QAS) contains the required number, but I make no allegation regarding it. Then also Lateinos (LATEINOS) has the number six hundred and sixty-six; and it is a very probable [solution], this being the name of the last kingdom [of the four seen by Daniel]. For the Latins are they who at present bear rule: ...

I advise caution as Irenaeus does.

Jesus Christ returned as conquering King in AD 312? No serious historian, theologian or patrician believed or believes this. The Nicene creed indicates a future second Advent of Jesus Christ. Most of the ancient churches remain pious on the details, however Revelation 19 is quite descriptive. Jesus will come again as Judge and will deal directly with the nations and directly with the beast and false prophet.

Revelation 19:

19 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

The thought or implication, Christians living in the world but not of it, will somehow take the world positions of power, use armies to defeat Islam and usher in worldwide peace is absent from the Bible. These are machinations of man and a heretical following of Dominionism.

Christians continue to be tortured, imprisoned and murdered throughout the world, more are falling away from the Faith than coming to it, and Israel as a political and geographic power is a reality.

The man of sin may be revealed soon, or 1000 years from now.

What's important? Is each one of us personally prepared for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Are you personally prepared to meet Him when you take your last breath?

Will you be greeted as a friend or adversary?

This is what's important for Christians to focus on...The Great Commission to preach His Gospel to the lost and seeking.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   17:47:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: redleghunter (#42) (Edited)

The man of sin may be revealed soon, or 1000 years from now.

What's important? Is each one of us personally prepared for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Are you personally prepared to meet Him when you take your last breath?

Will you be greeted as a friend or adversary?

This is what's important for Christians to focus on...The Great Commission to preach His Gospel to the lost and seeking.

Like all futurists, you are loco en la cabeza. The history books tell us that Jesus returned over 1700 years ago, in 312AD. There are two "men of sin" that have appeared since then. The first one, the 7th head of Satan, was Mohammed. His followers trampled Jerusalem underfoot for exactly 1260 years as prophesied. The second one, the 8th head of Satan, was Hitler. He caused great tribulation for 1260 days as prophesied.

Besides the Great Commission, Jesus also gave us a command to kill all of His enemies (see Luke 19:27). I am guaranteed a mansion in heaven because I helped kill some enemies of Jesus in Viet Nam. My only regret is that I am now too old to help kill the enemies of Jesus in Iraq (a remnant of the 7th head of Satan). The Good News is, when they are all killed off, Christian nations will then be able to rule the earth in peace for a thousand years!

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   19:38:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: interpreter (#45)

The history books tell us that Jesus returned over 1700 years ago, in 312AD.

Prove it. Show me where any credible historian, Church doctor or theologian made this claim.

Constantine saw a cross in the sky before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Compare this miniscule vision of one man to the utter carnage depicted and Glorious return of Christ in Revelation 19 as I posted.

You are a victim of your own low balling eisegesis. You make things to conform your predispositions.

What ancient church shares your eschatology? I'm curious.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-05   2:33:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: redleghunter (#51) (Edited)

Prove it. Show me where any credible historian, Church doctor or theologian made this claim.

Constantine saw a cross in the sky before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Compare this miniscule vision of one man to the utter carnage depicted and Glorious return of Christ in Revelation 19 as I posted.

You are a victim of your own low balling eisegesis. You make things to conform your predispositions.

What ancient church shares your eschatology? I'm curious.

Like I already said, ALL world history books used to say that (back when I went to school) but nowadays atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. have forced many school districts and history-book publishers to rewrite history and take that out (because it offends them). Nonetheless, there are a few historians who still say much the same thing. For example, Robert Thorvat says,

"On the 28th of October, AD 312, Constantine The Great “faced off” with Maxentius in what became known as the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Though no one probably realized this at the time, the Battle of the Milvian Bridge would become one of those historical turning points that would set world history down a new path whether for better or worse."

(Source: https://roberthorvat30.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/the-battle-of-the- milvian-bridge-on-this-day-in-history/)

Also, like I have already said, Constantine saw a Chi-Rho (the first 2 letters of Christ), and not a cross. You can see it too with any star- tracking software set to the evening of Oct. 27, 312 AD. The Chi-Rho is prominently displayed in all ancient Churches, usually directly above the "Holy of Holies" (where the communion bread and wine is prepared). It means "By this, conquer" just as Jesus told Constantine that night. And the entire Revelation, from beginning to end, is about Christians conquering the earth (and taking it back from the last three heads of Satan -- pagan Rome, Muslims and NAZI's).

And Revelation 19 is NOT the return of Christ. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus returns twice. I don't care to give away any more of my book on LF. If you want to know who the 5th horseman is, you will have to buy my book, The Revelation: a Historicist View (out soon, or you can pre-order it from Westbow Press). But I will give you a clue. I'm predicting that the fifth horseman will join NATO in 2017, and complete the picture of the 24 Christian nations that will rule the earth for Jesus for the next 1000 years. Over the next few decades (or centuries) this tiny eastern-Europe nation (the smallest in NATO) that has never been defeated (by the Islamic hordes, or by the NAZI's or anyone) and has conquered to the end will be blessed by God and increase in size and power until it replaces the US as the most powerful nation on earth. (Hard to believe now, but that's what the Revelation indicates).

One of the ancient Churches that is OK with my book is my church (the Episcopalian/Anglican Church).

And when I first started studying the Revelation, I had no predispositions whatsoever, and studied it with a completely open mind (unlike futurists).

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-05   7:06:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: interpreter (#54)

Like I already said, ALL world history books used to say that (back when I went to school) but nowadays atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. have forced many school districts and history-book publishers to rewrite history and take that out (because it offends them). Nonetheless, there are a few historians who still say much the same thing. For example, Robert Thorvat says,

Ok so the answer is "no", you don't have a source.

I would think one church council or even renown theologian would share your view. Guess not.

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