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Title: Conservative Christians pan 'prosperity gospel' Trump inaugural preacher
Source: Washington Examiner
URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c ... ral-preacher/article/2610564#!
Published: Jan 2, 2017
Author: W. James Antle III
Post Date: 2017-01-02 09:54:21 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 20742
Comments: 166

Prominent conservative Christians are up in arms about President-elect Trump's choice of a controversial televangelist to deliver one of the prayers at his inauguration on Jan. 20.

Florida's Paula White, age 50, will join Franklin Graham, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and other religious leaders in participating in the Trump inaugural festivities. Unlike the others, White is a proponent of the "prosperity gospel" — the belief that God blesses the faithful with health and wealth — who has come under attack for her theology, marital history and finances.

"Paula White is a trinity denying heretic," wrote conservative Christian commentator Erick Erickson. "She rejects the Council of Nicaea's creed that every Christian accepts. To reject the orthodoxy of the Nicene Creed is to reject Christianity itself."

"Paula White is a charlatan and recognized as a heretic by every orthodox Christian, of whatever tribe," echoed Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

"Paula White has a long history of bankruptcies, failed business ventures, and unsuccessful marriages, which makes her the perfect choice to deliver a prayer on behalf a president-elect who has proudly proclaimed that he's never felt the need to ask forgiveness from God for anything," complained Paula Bolyard in a post titled "Twice Divorced Paula White Praying at Trump Inaugural Exactly What We Expected."

White delivered the benediction on the first day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July, where Trump was nominated for president.

The loudest voices against White are anti-Trump evangelicals who have been warning their coreligionists against the president-elect since the campaign. But many Christians regard the prosperity gospel as incompatible with Scripture and view pastors who promote it as likely to take financial advantage of their flocks.

White has drawn attention for her own lavish lifestyle, as the owner of expensive homes (including an apartment at Trump Towers) and cars. The Tampa Tribune reported that her broadcast business earned between $50,000 to $80,000 a week while a decade ago she and her then-husband were taking compensating ranging from $600,000 to $1.5 million a year.

Erickson argues that her theological problems go beyond the prosperity gospel to rejecting core Christian doctrines agreed upon across denominations, as evidenced by comments she made to worshippers that were captured on video.

"The President of the United States putting a heretic on stage who claims to believe in Jesus, but does not really believe in Jesus, risks leading others astray," he wrote. "Christians have an obligation to speak in defense of their faith. Trump letting this heretic pray in Jesus's name should offend every Bible believing Christian."

"I'd rather a Hindu pray on Inauguration Day and not risk the souls of men, than one whose heresy lures in souls with promises of comfort only to damn them in eternity," Erickson concluded. "At least no one would mistake a Hindu, a Buddhist, or an atheist with being a representative of Christ's kingdom."

In the "What We Believe" section of the website for White's ministry, she explicitly affirms a belief in the trinity.

While much of the organized Christian right supported Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio in the Republican primaries, Trump made peace with these organizations by promising to appoint conservative judges and generally hew to a socially conservative agenda.

Trump won 80 percent of white born-again or evangelical Christians, according to the exit polls. That was better than not only Mitt Romney, a Mormon, in 2012, but also evangelical George W. Bush in 2004.

But the president-elect had natural appeal to prosperity gospel preachers, as his own self-help advice is a more secularized version of that message. Trump's parents attended a church pastored by Norman Vincent Peale, the Methodist turned Reformed author of "The Power of Positive Thinking."

Peale's teachings were a precursor of sorts to the prosperity gospel. The preacher, who died in 1993, performed Trump's wedding to his first wife Ivana. Peale's successor presided over Trump's wedding to his second wife Marla Maples.

The prosperity gospel is also an opening to broaden Trump's appeal across racial lines, as the tradition has made inroads in the black church. White herself has led a megachurch with a predominantly black congregation.

White chairs Trump's evangelical advisory board. She has organized meetings between Trump and other pastors. White is one of six clergy scheduled to pray, speak or read at Trump's inaugural, including some who have disagreed with the president-elect on immigration.

White's second husband was the evangelist Randy White, with whom she partnered in ministry. Her current husband is Jonathan Cain, a member of the rock band Journey.


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#3. To: Willie Green (#0)

evangelical George W. Bush in 2004

Bush was an evangelical moron.

rlk  posted on  2017-01-02   15:42:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: rlk (#3)

evangelical George W. Bush in 2004 Bush was an evangelical moron.

He is not Evangelical. He's a Methodist.

The article left out quite a few facts and got a few wrong. Evangelicals actually voted 79% for Trump but 81% for Romney.

It was what is called the notional Christian vote which put Trump over the top:

Notional Christians broke for Trump

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   1:41:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: redleghunter (#25)

evangelical George W. Bush in 2004 Bush was an evangelical moron.

He is not Evangelical. He's a Methodist.

He is, and always has been, a childish asshole.

rlk  posted on  2017-01-04   13:59:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: rlk (#36) (Edited)

"evangelical George W. Bush in 2004 Bush was an evangelical moron." He is not Evangelical. He's a Methodist."

He is, and always has been, a childish asshole.

Whether you call him Methodist or evangelical, the Revelation has nothing but good things to say about George W Bush because he killed the SOB who dried up the Euphrates where human life began in order to start the Battle of Ar Mageddon and get back at George Bush Sr and his son. Anyone who messes with a Christian nation must be killed Jesus says. And George Bush Jr knows the Bible very well and he correctly identified the Axis of Evil east of the Euphrates that is to start (has started) the Battle of Ar Mageddon. He is definitely not a moron, and not childish. He is very smart and knows his Bible, and was only obeying Jesus.

And the Battle of Ar Mageddon is actually good, because it will result in all the bad Muslims all over the earth being killed off just as Saddam Hussein was. Then there will be peace for a thousand years.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   16:33:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: interpreter (#41)

Whether you call him Methodist or evangelical, the Revelation has nothing but good things to say about George W Bush because he killed the SOB who dried up the Euphrates where human life began in order to start the Battle of Ar Mageddon and get back at George Bush Sr and his son.

I pointed out to you a year ago the Euphrates did not dry up.

I believe you indicated a time frame, one in which I was actually in Iraq drinking ROPU water taken from both the Tigris and Euphrates.

Saddam did dry up some canals but the rivers kept flowing.

As in an important operations position in Iraq I think I would have also noticed millions of troops from the East pouring through Iraq.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-04   17:54:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: redleghunter (#43) (Edited)

I pointed out to you a year ago the Euphrates did not dry up.

I believe you indicated a time frame, one in which I was actually in Iraq drinking ROPU water taken from both the Tigris and Euphrates.

Saddam did dry up some canals but the rivers kept flowing.

As in an important operations position in Iraq I think I would have also noticed millions of troops from the East pouring through Iraq.

You are badly mistaken because it has dried up three times now. And every time it happens something bad happens. Here are the references I have cited in my book for the three times it dried up:

1. A University of Texas map, based on aerial photos of Iraq and dated June 1994, shows the lower fifty miles of the Euphrates as being completely dry. It is included in a CIA report titled, “The Destruction of Iraq’s Marshes” (Report Number IA 94-10020). 2. Source: www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/world/middleeast/14euphrates.html?_r=0 3. Source: www.thetrumpet.com/article/11828.19.0.0/middle-east/turkey-dries- up-the- euphrates

The first time, 9/11 happened. The second time, the Iraqi PM ordered all our troops out of Iraq. The third time, ISIS was born.

I now have my home-boy, Jerry Kramer, a missionary from my church, keeping an eye on the Euphrates in Mosul every day and reporting to me whenever the Euphrates gets low and starts to dry up, so that I can warn everybody that something bad is about to happen.

Are you trying to tell me you did not see ISIS pouring into Iraq?

Besides pointing to Raqqa and ISIS, the spot where the Euphrates dried up 3 times forms a vector with Jerusalem that when extended eastward also points to, and bisects, Kabul and Tehran and of course Baghdad. They are the 4 capitals of the demon-possessed kings that start the Battle of Ar Mageddon. The Revelation does not say however that all of them actually cross the Euphrates. The remaining demon-possessed capital we now have to look out for is Tehran.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-04   18:47:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: interpreter (#44)

1. A University of Texas map, based on aerial photos of Iraq and dated June 1994, shows the lower fifty miles of the Euphrates as being completely dry. It is included in a CIA report titled, “The Destruction of Iraq’s Marshes”

Again your source says partially dried up. Only fifty miles. Assuming your source is accurate.

The Length of the Euphrates is 1,740 miles. That means 2.8735632183908044 percent of it was dry.

The Bible says in Revelation 16:12-15King James Version (KJV)

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up,

It doesn't say 2.8735632183908044 percent of it will dry up. It says it will dry up.

You're a joke and a clown.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-05   22:55:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: A K A Stone (#86)

Again your source says partially dried up. Only fifty miles. Assuming your source is accurate.

The Length of the Euphrates is 1,740 miles. That means 2.8735632183908044 percent of it was dry.

The Bible says in Revelation 16:12-15King James Version (KJV)

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up,

It doesn't say 2.8735632183908044 percent of it will dry up. It says it will dry up.

You're a joke and a clown.

You are a bald face liar. And I can easily prove it, but I dont have the map in question on my new computer, a laptop, and I guess I will have to retrieve my old desktop from my mini-warehouse and fire it up and post the UT/CIA map on LF just for you Mr. Goofy and for Mr. Red herring. But is a huge map and I'm not sure you will be able to read it after it is shrunk down enough to fit on this site, but it very plainly says that 50 miles of the Euphrates was COMPLETELY dry. And if you guys don't believe the CIA, you are completely hopeless and I am not going to continue this ridiculous conversation for another minute.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-06   0:33:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: interpreter (#91)

You are a bald face liar.

Where did I lie. I quoted from your link. Then I did the math.

You are a stupid person. A clown. Someone to laugh at not be listened to. No serious person thinks highly of you.

You have never predicted anything correctly. Not once. Not even what time the sun rises.

You are so dumb you think that people seen in boats (your source) means it is dried up. Here is a clue for you dimwit. I* there is a boat on the river. There is water there.

Why would you need some alleged computer in some alleged warehouse? Don't you know how to use google to find maps? You're a clown and you're full of shit.

You don't lead people to christ. You lead them away. You make chrisians look stupid. But it is just you that is stupid. You are also a liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-06   9:17:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: A K A Stone (#93) (Edited)

You don't lead people to christ. You lead them away. You make chrisians look stupid. But it is just you that is stupid. You are also a liar.

You couldn't be more wrong. I have led many hundreds of people to Christ. When I was the jailhouse preacher in the Brazoria County jail, I converted virtually everyone in the Jail including the most hardened atheists in Texas. I did it by preaching entirely from the Revelation, and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a God, by showing that 85 percent of the Revelation has been fulfilled. And I told the murderers and all the violent inmates, If you still feel like killing someone, join the armed forces and kill the enemies of Jesus to your heart's content, and you will receive a mansion in heaven. And I share Mad Dog's view (the new Secretary of Defense) that killing the bad guys is fun. And many of the guys I converted are now in Iraq killing the bad guys, and having fun doing it.

I can guarantee you that not one futurist in history has the track record I have for converting people. The futurists lead people away from Christ and make Christians look stupid by predicting a bunch of crazy stuff that never comes true.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-06   12:07:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: interpreter (#98)

by predicting a bunch of crazy stuff that never comes true.

Like the fool who provided links to make their case. Then the links all said the Euphrates didn't dry up. Making the fool not only a fool but a liar and a false prophet.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-06   12:23:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: A K A Stone (#100) (Edited)

"by predicting a bunch of crazy stuff that never comes true."

Like the fool who provided links to make their case. Then the links all said the Euphrates didn't dry up. Making the fool not only a fool but a liar and a false prophet.

Why do you keep repeating the same lie over and over and over again? I've already shot it down four times.

And for 25 years, I have been accurately predicting stuff, whereas no futurist has ever got one thing right. So who is the fase prophet?

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-06   13:04:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: interpreter (#105)

Why do you keep repeating the same lie over and over and over again? I've already shot it down four times.

You've done no such thing. All you have done is prove yourself to be even a bigger liar.

You have never predicted anything correctly. Not once. You are not a prophet. You are a clown.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-06   13:14:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: A K A Stone (#108) (Edited)

You've done no such thing. All you have done is prove yourself to be even a bigger liar.

You have never predicted anything correctly. Not once. You are not a prophet. You are a clown.

As I have also told you at least 4 or 5 times, I have predicted all of the major events of the last 25 years, whereas not one futurist has ever predicted even one thing correctly. That proves who is the liar, and a false prophet and a clown beyond a shadow of a doubt.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-06   13:24:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: interpreter (#114)

As I have also told you at least 4 or 5 times, I have predicted all of the major events of the last 25 years, whereas not one futurist has ever predicted even one thing correctly. That proves who is the liar, and a false prophet and a clown beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Who is a witness to your 25 years of predictions?

You did predict Trump would win, but several bookies did too. Frankly you were sweating that one out as I recall.

Who is the witness of all your other predictions coming true?

Futurists who make concrete predictions in space and time cease to be futurist. I pointed this out. Harold Camping types were so convinced they cracked the Biblical "code" they sound like you.

Return to Acts 1 with a humble heart. The apostles were clothed with the Holy Spirit in power in Acts 2. They did not sharpen swords but stepped out boldly for the Gospel.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-01-06   17:55:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: redleghunter (#134)

Who is a witness to your 25 years of predictions?

The first two years (1992 and 93) I placed my predictions in the Sargent Beachcomber. When that newspaper went defunct, I placed my annual predictions in the Sargent News for a couple years (94 & 95). After that I published my annual predictions in my own publication, The Last Days Chronicle (in 96 & 97) After that I placed my annual predictions on beliefnet for several years where I became pretty famous for predicting 9/11, and for my prayer I posted on b'net after 9/11 occurred, and I made it into B'nets book about 9/11 called From the Ashes. Basically I prayed for the invasion of Afghanistan and for Osama Bin Laden to be found and killed, while very other B'net poster prayed for peace. And my prayer was of course answered while none of the other prayers were. If you guys want to look me up on Beliefnet or in their book, I am known on that site as theinterpreter. But on b'net if you say anything bad about Muslims or atheists, etc. and one of them complains to b'net that they were "offended" your post is automatically deleted. After they deleted one of my annual predictions one year (and I can't remember for sure what year that was) I started putting my annual predictions on christianforums.com But they also have a lot of atheists and Muslims on their site and lots of nit-picky rules and I was constantly reported and kicked off for a while for variuos reasons until I "repented" and promised to never do it again, and the final straw was when I was permanently kicked off for saying BS which they said was a cuss word. And I told them I have never said a cuss word in my life, but like everyone else I sometimes use a substitute term and BS was not a cuss word. And I told them that the next president of the United States frequently uses the "F-bomb" but I can't say BS? And I refused to "repent" for something I didn't do, and to make a long story short, I had to create my own website so I could say whatever I want without being censored. And that's also the reason I like Libertysflame, and why I like facebook (although FB does have a few rules you are supposed to follow), Anyhow, this year my annual predictions are on 3 websites and also in my book. I am now going nation- wide and world-wide with my message and I aim to convert the whole world to Christianity like I did the Brazoria County jail, Lord willing.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-07   13:15:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: interpreter (#139)

I am now going nation- wide and world-wide with my message and I aim to convert the whole world to Christianity

All by yourself, huh?

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-07   13:29:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Deckard (#141)

"I am now going nation- wide and world-wide with my message and I aim to convert the whole world to Christianity"

All by yourself, huh?

No, not by myself, but I do envision myself as the leader (or one of the leaders) of the Church who will convert the whole world to Christianity which the Revelation says is supposed to happen within the next year or two.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-07   13:55:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: interpreter (#143)

No, not by myself, but I do envision myself as the leader (or one of the leaders) of the Church who will convert the whole world to Christianity

Did God tell you that?

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-07   13:56:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Deckard (#144)

"No, not by myself, but I do envision myself as the leader (or one of the leaders) of the Church who will convert the whole world to Christianity"

Did God tell you that?

Not exactly, but a prophetess said that when I was born. And my publisher tells me that if that counts.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-07   14:36:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#147. To: interpreter (#146)

Not exactly, but a prophetess said that when I was born.

More evidence of occultism.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-07 14:40:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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