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Title: Turkey Has Declared War On Syria – Does This Mean That World War 3 Is About To Erupt In The Middle East?
Source: The Economic Collapse
URL Source: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/ ... ut-to-erupt-in-the-middle-east
Published: Nov 29, 2016
Author: Michael Snyder
Post Date: 2016-11-30 07:45:06 by U don't know me
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Views: 9829
Comments: 36

Turkey Has Declared War On Syria – Does This Mean That World War 3 Is About To Erupt In The Middle East? By Michael Snyder, on November 29th,

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has just announced that the only reason Turkish military forces have entered northern Syria is to “end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad”. By publicly proclaiming that Turkey intends to use military force to overthrow the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Erdogan has essentially declared war on the Syrian government. Of course this puts a member of NATO in direct military conflict with Russia, since Russia is working very hard to prop up the Assad regime. If all-out war breaks out between Turkey and Russia, could that be the spark that causes World War 3 to erupt in the Middle East? And once Turkey and Russia start fighting, would the United States and the rest of NATO be dragged into the conflict?

The big mainstream news networks in the western world are almost completely ignoring what Erdogan said on Tuesday, but without a doubt this is major news. The following comes from a Turkish news source…

The Turkish military launched its operations in Syria to end the rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, President Recep Tayyip Erdoan said Nov. 29.

“In my estimation, nearly 1 million people have died in Syria. These deaths are still continuing without exception for children, women and men. Where is the United Nations? What is it doing? Is it in Iraq? No. We preached patience but could not endure in the end and had to enter Syria together with the Free Syrian Army [FSA],” Erdoan said at the first Inter-Parliamentary Jerusalem Platform Symposium in Istanbul.

Turkish military forces initially invaded northern Syria on August 24th, and at the time we were all told that the purpose of the invasion was to “fight ISIS”, but now Erdogan is telling us something completely different.

Breitbart is one of the few U.S. news outlets that is reporting on this story, and I want you to read the following quotes from Erdogan that come from a Breitbart article that was posted on Tuesday very, very carefully…

“Why did we enter? We do not have an eye on Syrian soil. The issue is to provide lands to their real owners. That is to say we are there for the establishment of justice. We entered there to end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad who terrorizes with state terror,” Erdogan continued, insisting his forces were not in Syria for “any other reason.”

The Daily Sabah notes that Erdogan spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin about Syria during two telephone calls last week. Since Russia launched a massive military operation to secure Bashar Assad in power, Putin would presumably have been interested in anything Erdogan had to say about toppling the regime in Damascus, and probably would not have kept quiet about it.

If the Turkish military is only in Syria to end the Assad regime, then presumably they will stay there until the job is done.

And this puts Turkey into a direct military conflict with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah since all three of them are already fighting very hard to help the Assad regime.

Of course there is another reason why Turkey is in northern Syria, and that is to fight the Kurds. In fact, the Kurds and Turkey are both rushing to capture a little city northeast of Aleppo called al-Bab which is currently controlled by the Islamic State…

Their immediate challenge is securing al-Bab, an Islamic State-held city northeast of Aleppo which Kurdish-led fighters are racing to take, and which lies close to the front lines of Assad’s allies.

Turkish-backed forces have made rapid gains since August, but largely through less heavily populated areas. Urban warfare around al-Bab is already taking a heavier toll. Five Turkish soldiers have been killed in the past week alone, three of them in a suspected Syrian government air strike.

“Right now the question is whether Russia will allow Turkey to seize al-Bab,” said the Muntasir Billah Brigade official.

But most people in the western world don’t know that Turkish soldiers are already dying in Syria.

Here in the United States, tens of millions of Americans are hailing a new era of “peace and prosperity” now that Donald Trump has won the election, but the truth is that one false move in Syria could easily raise tensions between the United States and Russia to the highest level that we have seen since the Cuban missile crisis back in the 1960s.

If Erdogan would have just stayed out of Syria we wouldn’t be in such a precarious situation. Unfortunately, the president of Turkey is a narcissistic lunatic, and he dreams of a day when the old Ottoman Empire will once again be restored.

But his delusions of greatness threaten to make the Middle East even more unstable than it already has been. In addition to his remarks above, on Tuesday Erdogan also called on all Muslims globally “to embrace the Palestinian cause and protect Jerusalem”…

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has urged Muslims to defend the Palestinian cause, striking a tough stance on Israel despite improved ties between the two nations.

The president of majority Muslim Turkey said Tuesday that “it is the common duty of all Muslims to embrace the Palestinian cause and protect Jerusalem” and that safeguarding the Al-Aqsa Mosque should not be left to children armed with nothing but stones. Located in the Old City of Jerusalem, the hilltop compound is sacred to Muslims and Jews.

Most people in the western world pay very little attention to Erdogan, but the truth is that he is a madman that is often referred to as “Turkey’s version of Adolf Hitler”. He is extremely ambitious, extremely nationalistic, and he is a warmonger. That is a very dangerous combination, and I believe that it is only a matter of time before he starts a major war in the Middle East.

Somebody needs to get this guy under control, but unfortunately the Obama administration has been very hesitant to confront Erdogan about his outrageous behavior.

When Erdogan openly stated that the Turkish military is in Syria to overthrow the Assad regime on Tuesday, that was like lighting a match in a room that has already been doused with propane.

He needs to immediately retract those comments, because his unique brand of lunacy has now brought us dangerously close to the start of World War 3.

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#1. To: U don't know me (#0)

But wait - I thought that "regime change" was also the goal of the Obama administration.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-30   7:50:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

I thought that "regime change" was also the goal of the Obama administration.

What we have in Syria is a "Mare's Nest" a proxy war in which everyone is saying look over there while attacking someoneelse. Noone in the region has more military forces at their immediate disposal than Turkey and no one has more enemies/friends than Turkey. The real situation between Turkey and Daesh is unclear, sort of like the rabid family dog you have to put down. Turkey opposes Assad and has used the rebel factions against that regime. America needs Turkey to base its operations close to the theatre and to secure supply routes but this is tenuous because of American support for the Kurds, who oppose both Daesh and Turkey, and seek to carve out a homeland out of Syria and northern Iraq.

The puppet manipulators in this are Iran, Saudi Arabia and Russia and the common goal maybe to bleed America while seeming to be allies

paraclete  posted on  2016-11-30   16:34:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: paraclete (#3)

Russia is not interested in bleeding America. Russia is focused on making damned sure that Syria remains their ally, as that is their only naval base in the Mediterranean. They CANNOT permit the Syrian government to be overthrown.

The Russians have more skin in this game than any external power. The best answer, then, is to see that, recognize that the Russians are not going to lose, and cooperate with them to secure the Syrian government as quickly as possible, to stop the bloodshed.

Do that, and a grand bargain can be struck with the Russians to stabilize the region. Continue to act as though it is possible to overthrow the government of Syria - which means knocking the Russians completely out of the Mediterranean, is just throwing good money after bad, and guaranteeing that more and more lives will be chewed up in a meatgrinder.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-30   17:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4) (Edited)

You have been listening to Vlad, I listened to a recent interview and I could almost hear Hitler saying "Britain is not our traditional enemy". Essentially that's what Vlad said,"america is not our enemy" if so then he should face his missiles the other way. You must understand that Russia and america have diametrically opposed points of view, one values individual freedom over community while the other believes in community first as Vlad put it "the collective", surprisingly there are other societies that are like this and not all are communist

there is no indication Russia would lose its naval base with regime change, because there is no clear alternative government and no american forces to put a puppet in power. Russia knows the true meaning of being an ally and having a respect for law. Insurrection is not an answer, but the rebels have shown no indication of caring for civilians and stopping the bloodshed, they hide in the ruins and continue to fight while the civilians get slaughtered becuase it is hard to tell a civilian from behind a wall.

It is convenient for Russia to get a little payback and see america bleed as america made them bleed in Afghanistan

paraclete  posted on  2016-11-30   21:44:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: paraclete (#5)

You must understand that Russia and america have diametrically opposed points of view, one values individual freedom over community while the other believes in community first

I reject that in totum. Russia is just another country. A big one, with particular interests. Those interests are not particularly in competition with our own. We have generated conflict with the Russians in recent years by deciding to inject ourselves into places where we have no discernible or historical interests, but where they have vital interests.

OF COURSE that will cause them to resist us, but it's our choice to create the conflict. We need a President who is going to choose to not do that.

We are careening towards national bankruptcy. We do not have the wealth to give us the luxury of going out of our way to provoke the other nuclear superpower, and then engaging in an arms race with them. The Soviet Union did that, and went bankrupt and fell apart on account of it. So will we.

It's unnecessary.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-12-01   15:01:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

We are careening towards national bankruptcy. We do not have the wealth to give us the luxury of going out of our way to provoke the other nuclear superpower, and then engaging in an arms race with them. The Soviet Union did that, and went bankrupt and fell apart on account of it. So will we.

It's unnecessary

when did that stop the military industrial complex that is the US? You spend more on the military that the rest of the planet while complaining that other nations are arming or more likely buying weapons elsewhere. Now your illustrious new leader wants his new friends to contribute more to the alliance, which is shorthand for buy more weapons, one of his plans to "make america great". The fact is america is the greatest threat to world peace. Russia is tiny in comparison and like america almost bankrupt and would be unable to sustain a large conflict, but they have learned from history, strong fences make good neighbours

paraclete  posted on  2016-12-01   17:22:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#12. To: paraclete (#11)

America is the linchpin of the world system. The world system since World War II has been built around America.

There have been brush fires and problems on the periphery, as there always have been and always will be, but there has been no pan-European or pan-Asian war for three quarters of a century, and there won't be another one either, as long as the Pax Americana holds.

Resentment of America is natural, both for reasons of envy, and also because America does not always act wisely, or kindly. But consider well the alternative. The notion that if the United States faded from the scene, pulled back its power and retreated into isolationism the world would be a better place is a foolish fantasy. The world was never, ever, as peaceful and generally marching - ah slowly! - towards a more pluralistic, democratic and free space as it has under the Pax Americana.

Americans really believe in democracy, in freedom, and in individual freedom. We have not always practiced it perfectly, but as a major imperial nation at the center of the world system, we have advances those causes more than any other people or empire in history.

It is simply a fact. No other empire believed in those things, and no other empire tried as hard. Nor has any other empire been as successful at keeping the world largely (not perfectly) peaceful, and NOT colonizing whole continents and forcing them into peonage like the British, Spanish, Russians, Romans and every other dominant power in history.

No other power was ever as globally dominant as America, and that's a good thing, because no other dominant power was ever half as good, morally, as America. Americans actually believe in freedom for Indians and Hottentots. We may practice it poorly, and our institutions may be subject to political capture, but compared to anybody else we are light years ahead.

And the whole system of peace, the worldwide peace we have enjoy under which everyone - INCLUDING THE RUSSIANS AND THE CHINESE - have been able to grow in stability, is not something that can be replaced. Nor is it something that will police itself, or survive at all, if America retreats from the scene.

It is expensive to maintain the world system, to be the linchpin of it. We are no longer the super- dominant economy we once were, mostly THANKS TO that peace that we have brought to the world by our invincibility. Under the wings of the American Peace, China has grown, and Europe, and Australia, everywhere. And everywhere competes with us. We cannot bear the cost of the world system alone, we need more help.

Your answer is that the world does not need us. You are wrong. If we go home, broke or defeated, what will happen in the world is exactly what happened the last time we did that, in 1918, after we were ignored at the Peace of Versailles. Instead of the open peace we believed in, a vengeful peace of empires was restored. We went home and stayed there, our ideals rejected. And the world raged in World War afterwards, as different ideas - old style British and French imperialism, confronted new-style Japanese, German and Italian militarism and fascism. Without the United States, China would have been a vassal state of Japan. So would Australia. Without the United States, the Third Reich would have eventually triumphed in Europe.

We entered at last, and won the war, and set up a different world system. And the system we set up has kept the peace since 1945. There has never been anything else like it, and there is nobody else in the world will the wherewithal, the will or the ideals to carry it forward.

In any case, your theory won't be tested. We're not going to withdraw from the world system we have set up. You may not like us, but you nevertheless need us. If we don't keep the peace and operate the world system at its center, no-one will. And that will be bad for everybody.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-12-01 21:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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