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Primative Weapons Title: Girl suspended from school for cutting peach with child butter knife Police turn investigation over to Florida State Attorney's OfficeA South Florida couple is outraged after they said their daughter was suspended from her middle school for using a child butter knife at lunchtime to cut a peach, Local10.com reported. "There's no one there trying to educate and to be reasonable to say, 'Let's work this out,'" the girl's father, Ronald Souto, said. Souto's daughter is an honor roll student at Silver Trail Middle School in Pembroke Pines. "She's always trying to help someone. She's always trying to share things," Souto said about his daughter. Ronald and Andrea Souto told Local 10 News reporter Michael Seiden that their 11-year-old daughter was suspended for six days for bringing the knife to school. "This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers -- one year old," Andrea Souto said. "It is made for children to learn how to eat properly. She's used it since she was baby." According to the school district, the girl violated the county's weapon policy when she used her butter knife in the cafeteria to cut the peach. "The friend asked for half of the peach and she cuts half of the peach and gives to her friend. She goes to the bathroom and comes back and the guy said, 'Follow me,'" Ronald Souto said. Ronald said he hopes what happened to his daughter will bring change to the district, specifically new polices when it comes to weapons. He's not alone. "I think the principal should revisit this and everyone (should) sit down to the table, and let's just say, 'Don't do it again.' This is outrageous to go to that extreme," Melvin J. Smith, whose grandson attends the school, said. The Soutos said they were shocked about the suspension and are now concerned that their daughter's act of kindness could lead to criminal charges. "She's afraid now of the educators. She's afraid of people at school. They need to change the system," Ronald Souto said. A Broward County school district spokeswoman declined to offer specifics about the incident because of "student privacy," but said, "The school followed district policy regarding this incident and continues to work with the student and parents involved. It is the district's priority to maintain safe and secure campuses for students and staff at all times." The Pembroke Pines Police Department said it has turned over their investigation to the State Attorney's Office. It's unclear whether prosecutors will file charges, but the family's attorney said the school board isn't doing its job in this case. "The school board has abused its discretion to act in this case," Larry Meltzer said. "It is tragic that a school that this little girl loves sees fit to prosecute and suspend her -- the epitome of a model and honor roll student -- for using a child-proof utensil that could never be construed in any form as a weapon in order to share part of her lunch with a fellow classmate. "This item at all times was used in the school's lunch room as it should be -- to cut a peach and share lunch with a friend," he added. "She should be applauded for her generosity, kindness and for her motivation to be a great student in all senses of that word. "The only harm that has been exacted in this case is by Silver Trail Middle School and the Broward County School Board upon one of its finest students and upon one who exemplifies the type of person and student it wishes to help create. It is truly senseless and does reflects poorly upon the type of educators and law enforcement involved in this case." (1 image) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-33) not displayed.
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#35. To: Deckard, nolu chan, A K A Stone (#33) (Edited) A straight-A Utah high school student brouht a knife to school then stabbed five boys in the school's locker room before stabbing himself and the bleeding heart libertarian assholes on LF post nothing about it and neither do they make a comment after I post it. Yet a girl brings this 3-inch steel blade knife to school and the bleeding heart libertarian assholes get their panties all wadded up between their crotch and start moaning and crying trying to pass it off as a teeny-tiny “wittle” butter knife a very small infant uses to learn how to eat. Look at the picture. There is nothing there to garner the description as a “butter knife.” That descriptive term was coined by the author to downplay the potential danger of the knife. Look at the picture and you will see a STANDARD stainless steel knife, fork and spoon set with, judging by the length of the handle in proportion, a blade length of at least 3 inches or more. The school the girl attends has a written police that NO KNIVES OF ANY KIND will be brought to school. The school where the boy who stabbed 5 students also has a written policy that no knives of any kind will be brought to school Don’t you think the parents of the 5 stabbed students wish someone had discovered the boy with the knife before the stabbings and suspended him for six days? But the bleeding heart libertarian assholes may contend that the young girl had no intention of stabbing anyone. Well they could have said that about the young kid that did the stabbing….until he did the stabbing. It is as nolu chan posted: Zero-tolerance policies did not sprout from nowhere. Litigious parents tend to sue whenever their precious snowflake gets any form of punishment. Zero- tolerance was the result. There is no interpretation of the rule whatever to be made. There is no discretion afforded in enforcement. Do not bring a knife to school [ANY KNIFE[. Zero tolerance rules are made for nonsensical parents who exercise no common sense.You Paultard libertarian assholes can continue to whimper, cry and attempt to discredit me as long as you want to….but it will do me no harm and I will not change my point of view. I will also continue to defend my position and say that a steel bladed knife should not be in a student's hand at school. You don’t believe that….then ask the parents of the 5 students who were stabbed to explain "why" to you. Zero tolerance is there for a reason in this case. The reason has been demonstrated by the stabbing of 5 students. Now suck it up, you Paultard libertarian assholes and face reality….don’t be swayed by some tear-jerking liberal biased agenda driven article yet another time.
#36. To: Deckard (#5) Take your "zero tolerance" nonsense and stick it up your ass. Take your anything goes bullshit and jam that up your Stinky Pete hole. If you want everyone to live by your standards, become this school districts superintendent... or shut the fuck up. If a school district outside of where you live decides to be zero tolerant, then it's non of your business. Asshole. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #37. To: Gatlin, hondo68, pinguinite, A K A Stone (#32) That is the second time that Pinguinite has said he would ban me if this were his site. I'll second that emotion, you tard.
#38. To: Fred Mertz (#37) That is the second time that Pinguinite has said he would ban me if this were his site. Nothing you ever have to say counts for SHIT, Ethel....So, I don't GAF!!!
#39. To: Gatlin (#38) Clean up the language, tater peeler.
#40. To: Fred Mertz (#39) (Edited) Clean up the language, tater peeler. No! You DON'T tell ME what to do! If you don't like it....don't read it! Now...BUTT out....ASSHOLE!
#41. To: Pinguinite (#31) So... to bozo Gatlin goes. I'm doing the same right after I post this.
#42. To: Fred Mertz (#41) So... to bozo Gatlin goes. GOOD BYE!!!
#43. To: Gatlin (#25) (Edited) Glass can also be used as a weapon. Case scenario: Back in '95, I was in a dressing room with several of my co-workers. Two of them were fighting to the point that the one pushed the other very hard next to a standing vanity mirror. The mirror split into several places leaving shards of glass on the floor. The one co-worker picked up one of the shards of glass and took and grabbed the other co-worker and began slicing into their right side temple of the face and continued all way down to their leg. There was blood everywhere and all I remember is running to the restroom to get some paper towels to stop the bleeding while awaiting for an ambulance. I believe the fight started where one of the co-workers said some shitty stuff about the other co-worker which was effecting their earnings, and that set off the fight.
#44. To: Fred Mertz (#41) I'm doing the same right after I post this. If I bozo someone, it isn't about that someone. It's about me and who I want to spend my time conversing with. Simple as that. I want to converse with people I respect. Life is better that way.
#45. To: goldilucky (#43) Glass can also be used as a weapon. It's a certainty that people have died from broken glass. I think the drummer from ABBA was killed that way in a home accident, if memory serves.
#46. To: Deckard (#45) I have no doubt the 11-year old girl who is portrayed as an innocent little darling knew exactly what she was doing and knew that she was prohibited from doing it. The kids who bring knives and guns to schools this day and time are not innocent babies who just happen to make a mistake. They know what they are doing, and they will do it as long as they can get away with doing it. Whether they are age 11, 13, 15 or 17….it doesn’t matter….they know what they are bringing to the schools. A day after a 13-year-old boy brought a handgun to a Queens middle school, random metal detector searches at the same school uncovered even more weapons, officials said.The attacks by kids in schools are increasing in numbers and getting more severe. It is a problem that needs to be recognized and dealt with….and it cannot be dealt with by a bunch of liberal cry babies coddling the kids.
#47. To: Gatlin (#46) The attacks by kids in schools are increasing in numbers and getting more severe. And you know why that's happening, Gatlin? It's because some of the parents of those kids teach their kids to be assholes and bullies to other classmates and then those classmates wonder why all hell breaks loose on those campuses. But its not just the parents that are at fault but also the school that condones such gross behavior.
#48. To: goldilucky (#47) (Edited) The attacks by kids in schools are increasing in numbers and getting more severe. We are in complete agreement. I believe that kids usually mirror their parents ...
#49. To: Deckard (#5) Common sense should prevail in instances like this one. Yea, that is absolutely correcrt. The girl should have had enought common sense not to take the knife to school. The parents should have had enough common sense to make sure the girl had enough common sense not to take the knife to school Yep, is is as you say: Common sense should prevail in instances like this one.
#50. To: Pinguinite (#44) You are a weak libtard. People like you need safe spaces. Your weakness makes me wanna puke. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #51. To: GrandIsland (#50) You are a weak libtard. You and Gatlin have a fetish about calling people "tards". As I've made clear before, it's quite childish to resort to such name calling time and time again.
Your weakness makes me wanna puke. The power to make someone puke would actually be a strength of one sort or another, not a weakness. But puke away, if you want.
#52. To: GrandIsland (#50) (Edited) You are a weak libtard. People like you need safe spaces. Your weakness makes me wanna puke. He is a candy assed libertarian, who like all libertarians stomp the feet and scream if someone doesn’t agree with them. He ran up against one person tonight that didn’t yield to him….so, “’he picked up his marbles” and ran home to mommy. And Freddy ran home crying with him …
#53. To: GrandIsland (#51) You and Gatlin have a fetish about calling people "tards". I guess he doesn’t like that we call them as we see them….TRUTHFULLY. Calling them the Paultard assholes that they are….raises their hackles.
#54. To: Gatlin (#35) Allen's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions. As a corollary, I would add: do not gun deck the acknowledgement form. http://browardschools.com/SiteMedia/Docs/Info/CodeBook/FINAL_SY_2016-17_Revised_Code.pdf The Code Book for Student Conduct 2016-2017, Broward County Public Schools At ii:
Dear Students and Parents: As your Superintendent, I am dedicated to working with the staff, parents and community to meeting the educational needs of all students in a safe learning environment. At 71:
Use/Possession/Transmittal of Class B weapons include, but not limited to:
#55. To: Deckard (#0) According to the school district, the girl violated the county's weapon policy when she used her butter knife in the cafeteria to cut the peach. May I ask what the girl was expected to use to cut the peach with in the cafeteria?
#56. To: goldilucky (#55) May I ask what the girl was expected to use to cut the peach with in the cafeteria? Whatever the school, at its sole discretion, provides. That could be a plastic spork or whatever. I assume the other kids are getting it done somehow. If the school allows knives and someone gets stabbed, the school district gets sued for allowing an unsafe environment. If some school authority determines that Johhny's knife is dangerous, and Jimmy's is not, the school district gets sued for disparate treatment. If the school sets a zero tolerance policy, and enforces it, they are golden. It is difficult to make any lawsuit.
#57. To: nolu chan (#56) What kind of school is this...a reform school for delinquents? It sounds to me like prison.
#58. To: nolu chan, Pinguinite, Deckard, all libtard assholes condemning the action by the school (#54) Allen's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions. The Acknowledgement Form located at: http://browardschools.com/SiteMedia/Docs/Info/CodeBook/Final-2016- 17_Signature_Forms_Code_of_Sudent_Conduct.pdf.The Broward County Public Schools – Acknowledgement - Page 15 of 15 This booklet lists the District’s rules in Policy 5.8, for students in Broward County Public Schools. The rules apply to all activities occurring on school grounds, on other sites being used for school activities, and on any vehicles authorized totransport students. Your signature below does not indicate that you agree or disagree with the rules, but rather that you have reviewed the electronic copy of these rules (www.BrowardSchools.com/ index.asp). Return this form to school within 3 days from the first day of school or from the date of enrollment.The bold red is included as part of the acknowledgement….it was NOT added.. The parents HAD to sign this Acknowledgement Form before their child was admitted to the school. The patents acknowledged they had reviewed the rules. Therefore, they had to have known the girl was not allowed to take the knife to school. The School Board’s suspension was without question authorized and justified. You libtard assholes….just keep on whining….that is the only repercussion you have available.
#59. To: goldilucky, nolu chan (#57) What kind of school is this...a reform school for delinquents? It sounds to me like prison.It’s the same kind of school you have there in Las Vegas, Clark County, Nevada….where I believe you said you live. Your schools have basically the same RULES. Check the restrictions on Page 2 of CLARK COUNTY DISTRICT SCHOOL REGULATION at: http://ccsd.net/district/policies- regulations/pdf/5141.1_R.pdf. This is nothing new….most all schools across the nation have the same basic inclusive rules.
#60. To: Gatlin (#59) (Edited) Sorry but the schools I attended did not have policies like this. Schools like these today are prison camps for those students and the school principal and superindendent managing them are merely prison guards. Plastic forks to cut a peach! What is the school going to do next? Like take the plastic forks away and have the kids eating meat loaf and mashed potatoes with their hands? I feel so sorry for those students. The best thing to do is pull the kid out of those schools and home school them cause they sure as hell are not learning anything of true value anyways.
#61. To: goldilucky (#60) Sorry but the schools I attended did not have policies like this. Neither did the school I attended. All 12 grades were in one small building. There was no rule book, no code of conduct....except the principal's paddle board. Fortunately, I escaped the wrath of the paddle board and never felt the experence ... Unfortunately for the youth today....times have changed, so have the parents. God help them....the kids of today.
#62. To: Gatlin (#61) Unfortunately, I never escaped the wrath of the paddle from the teachers. The paddle never served its purpose with me at all. I spend more time in the principals office than in the classroom. However, the principal and I enjoyed each others company from having lunch together to just spending my time in detention. We had a mutual respect and understanding for one another. Never did they lay a hand on me or said discouraging words to me and never yelled at me. On the other hand, the teachers and I never had respect for one another. Never! The reason why the kids of today have it worse than schools of yesterday, is that the teachers are not there to teach anymore. They just don't care about those students. They prefer to keep those student dumb and stupid. Students respect a teacher that permits the students to express themselves and even be challenged academically. This does not exist in the classrooms. As a result of this the students are discouraged about their future place in this world because they feel nobody gives a shit about them. After all, this is their world too. They are repeatedly told they are not special and put down alot by older generations that they are shit. As a result, if they are not getting this treatment from school, they are getting it from home. And since they have no place to vent their anger and rage, we are seeing the results of this on the school campuses where school fights turn into dangerous rages. Older generations laugh at this but to the younger generations, this is real. It is not so much that God should help this younger generation but also the older generation to guide them. After all, we did bring them into this world. Although it is true that the world never promised today's youth a rose garden, it also never promised any other generations a rosy garden either.
#63. To: goldilucky (#62) True....all of it.
#64. To: goldilucky (#57)
What kind of school is this...a reform school for delinquents? It sounds to me like prison. It is now a typical school that must face the reality of litigation such as that described below. They sue the school district because that is where the potential jackpot is. The school districts must take measures to prevent jackpot payments. FYI: Islip is pronounced ICE-lip. http://www.courthousenews.com/CNSNEWS/Story/Index/93615
Muslim Mom Sues School for $50 Million
#65. To: nolu chan (#64) The Code of Student Conduct, Policy 5.8 will be distributed electronically. Students and parents are required to sign a statement indicating that they have received their Code of Student Conduct booklet, are aware of the explanation of rules it provides in policy, and have selected their options for media and directory information release. From your post #54, I quote you from above. If the parents did sign a statement of such concerning the school handbook and the school zero policy on bringing of illegal items on the campus, then is it fair to say that the parents would lose in court because they waived their right to sue?
#66. To: goldilucky (#65)
If the parents did sign a statement of such concerning the school handbook and the school zero policy on bringing of illegal items on the campus, then is it fair to say that the parents would lose in court because they waived their right to sue? They make it mandatory to sign an acknowledgement of the rules in order for little Johnny to attend the school. This is done for legal reasons to defeat any subsequent claim of unawareness of the rules. They did not waive their right to sue, but they have no case. It would be documented that they acknowledged knowing the rules. With knowledge of the rules, they sent their snowflake to school with what they knew to be a prohibited knife. From the article at the top:
"The school board has abused its discretion to act in this case," Larry Meltzer said. To make this case, one would have to prove that the school board did not have the discretionary power to prohibit the bringing of knives to school, or to implement a zero tolerance policy providing for a mandatory suspension. If the school does not ban knives, someone is sure to sue them for abuse of discretion for allowing students to bring weapons to school, allowing an unsafe environment, and failing their affirmative duty to provide a safe environment. Let the first student get stabbed and see who gets sued, the student doing the stabbing or the school district with the money. In the example at #54, a boy is called names by other boys and says he is going to set off a bomb at the school. The school reports it. Mom sues the school district for $50M. If a teacher used a paddle today, little Johnny would tell his parents and they would sue. And when you went to school and got paddled, if you complained to your parents, you may have got another paddling for misbehaving. If students are fighting in the classroom, totally disrupting class, it goes on while the teacher calls the assigned safety officer and waits for him to arrive to break it up.
#67. To: nolu chan (#66) Yep, and this is why homeschooling is the best alternative. I wound never subject a child to a school like this. In fact, I would have an attorney present with me before I signed some mandatory policy that would put me at a disadvantage to sue later. I don't believe in subjecting a child to a school system that regards them all as criminals.
#68. To: nolu chan (#66) What I find interesting about schools like this is that while they will impose mandatory policies on our children they will also impose the teachings of Sharia law in the classroom yet ban the teachings of Jesus.
#69. To: Deckard (#0) All this shit over a childs training butter knife when pencils or ball point pens can be used as far more dangerous weapons. This is insane hysteria.
#70. To: rlk, tater (#69) All this shit over a childs training butter knife when pencils or ball point pens can be used as far more dangerous weapons. This is insane hysteria. As tater sez: d' ruelz b' d' ruelz; if you don't like it move to Communist China.
#71. To: buckeroo (#70) As tater sez: d' ruelz b' d' ruelz; if you don't like it move to Communist China. I think I'm already there during Mao's second revolution with millions of hysterical halfwits running around waving little red books labeled "Quotations from Chairpeople Obama and Hillary" looking for an excuse to stomp on somebody.
#72. To: rlk, tater (#71) LQQK @ it this way: we have TRUMPERETTES now. According to tater, we can relax and have a good tyme while letting the Trump administration to do their "thing" without any worry or bother.
#73. To: rlk (#71) (Edited) hysterical halfwits yeah I'm for love ps In pss If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! #74. To: BorisY (#73) Glad to see you made it back out of EST of about 20GigaWatts of power applied across the frontal lobes. We shall have to increase the applied electromotive force to further subdue you on the stainless steel gurney. Have you signed the new documentation authorizing your signature to be used indescriminently?
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