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Title: Too Many Laws Turn Innocents into Criminals
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URL Source: http://www.heritage.org/research/co ... -turn-innocents-into-criminals
Published: May 26, 2010
Author: Edwin Meese III
Post Date: 2016-10-15 12:03:04 by Deckard
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America is in the throes of “overcriminalization.”
We are making and enforcing far too many criminal laws that create traps for the innocent but unwary, and threaten to turn otherwise respectable, law-abiding citizens into criminals. Consider a few examples from the new book “One Nation Under Arrest”:
• A 12-year old girl arrested and handcuffed for eating one French fry on the Washington subway system.
• A cancer-ridden grandmother arrested and criminally charged for refusing to trim her hedges the way officials in Palo Alto, Calif., were trying to force her to.
• A former high-school science whiz kid sent to prison after initially being arrested by FBI agents clad in SWAT gear for failing to affix a federally mandated sticker to his otherwise legal UPS package.
• A 67-year-old grandfather imprisoned because some of the paperwork for his home-based orchid business did not satisfy an international treaty.
I could go on, but all these stories share one thing in common — they are about typical Americans. Most involve a man or woman who works hard and pays taxes, cares for family members and is a good neighbor. Perhaps above all, this person strives to stay on the right side of the law.
This typical American holds deep, often intuitive beliefs in basic principles about American government, including a belief that, if you do what’s right, you have nothing to fear from your own government, and certainly not from the criminal-justice system.
But the typical American’s deeply held beliefs about the freedoms he cherishes and the fundamental principles of his government are no longer as well founded as they once were. Today, he is far more vulnerable than ever before to being caught up in a criminal investigation and prosecution — and to actually being convicted and punished as a criminal — for having done something he did not even suspect was illegal.
Criminal law has changed in the last 50 years. Once criminal law was about criminal acts that everyone knew were inherently unlawful (like murder, rape and robbery). Limiting criminal punishment to conduct that is inherently wrongful restricted governmental power in two important ways.
First, and most important, it kept the range of governmental power small. Having few criminal laws and a short list of things not to be done limited the scope within which government can exercise its authority.
Second, a limited criminal law served a teaching function. It reflected the beliefs and understandings common to the vast majority of our citizens — the very citizens who were subject to the criminal law.
Today, the criminal law has grown as broad as the regulatory state in its sheer size and scope. In 1998, an American Bar Association task force estimated that there were more than 3,000 federal criminal offenses scattered throughout the 50 titles of the U.S. Code.
Just six years later, a leading expert on overcriminalization, John S. Baker Jr., published a study estimating that the number exceeded 4,000. As the ABA task force reported, the body of federal criminal law is “so large . . . that there is no conveniently accessible, complete list of federal crimes.”
If “ignorance of the law is no excuse,” then every American citizen — literally, every single one — is ignorant and in peril, for nobody can know all the laws that govern their behavior.
A just criminal-justice system, in the best sense of the word “just,” has a twofold goal. One is to see that criminals are prosecuted, convicted and appropriately punished. The other is to ensure that those who are innocent are either not prosecuted in the first instance or, if mistakenly prosecuted, are not convicted.
Today, our system fails the second of those goals.
Much is at stake for our freedoms and the freedoms of future generations. The problem of overcriminalization merits extensive study and debate by legal experts and policymakers, as well as average Americans, whose fundamental liberty is most at stake.
Many constructive changes could make our justice system fairer and more just, and improve its ability to deter wrongdoing and punish real criminals. Taking the steps necessary to ensure that American criminal law once again routinely exemplifies the right principles and purposes will require much work, but the alternative is to distort the American criminal justice system, and jeopardize the American people.
Edwin Meese III was U.S. attorney general under President Reagan, and is chairman of the Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at the Heritage Foundation
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• A 12-year old girl arrested and handcuffed for eating one French fry on the Washington subway system.
That happened in 2000. 16 years ago. Do you also dig up dirt on Trump?
Eating or drinking in the Metro system is illegal. What are you saying -- a 1 a 12 a 12-year-old is too young to understand such a simple policy? Or are you saying we should make an exception just for her?
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
• A cancer-ridden grandmother arrested and criminally charged for refusing to trim her hedges the way officials in Palo Alto, Calif., were trying to force her to.
This happened in 2001. 15 years ago. Almost current by your standards.
She and her healthy husband received TWO written notifications from the city to properly trim their hedges to maintain unimpaired visibility at their intersection. They refused to do so.
#3. To: misterwhite (#1)
That happened in 2000. 16 years ago.
You really haven't been paying attention - hundreds if not thousands of of other examples have occured since then.
Eating or drinking in the Metro system is illegal. What are you saying -- a 1 a 12 a 12-year-old is too young to understand such a simple policy? Or are you saying we should make an exception just for her?
Yeah - one frigging french fry - good grief!
I suppose the author is just another leftard cop hater who is soft on crime.
You never fail to amuse.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
• A former high-school science whiz kid sent to prison after initially being arrested by FBI agents clad in SWAT gear for failing to affix a federally mandated sticker to his otherwise legal UPS package.
Yeah. Really "former". He was 53 when arrested.
"It turned out that when he legally sold some sodium on eBay (part of his fuel-cell materials) to raise cash, he forgot to put a federally mandated safety sticker on the UPS package he sent to the lawful purchaser." The old Steve Martin defense .. "I forgot".
Whatever. He ended up being acquitted by a federal jury.
Two years later, on a totally different charge, he was sent to prison after a jury trial for improperly disposing of hazardous waste.
#5. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)
• A 67-year-old grandfather imprisoned because some of the paperwork for his home-based orchid business did not satisfy an international treaty.
"The prosecution included evidence of the defendant's knowing participation in multiple shipments over a period of time (not a single, isolated event)," they said.
Unlike similar stories, the Norris case wasn't a strict liability case, meaning it required showing intent.
"The smuggling and false statement statutes under which Norris was convicted are not at all new, and require evidence of knowledge and intent," the U.S. Atto Attorney's Office statement read.
"In this regard, Norris voluntarily entered a plea of guilty to seven felony co counts of violating the Endangered Species Act, each count requiring knowledge of what he was doing," they said. "
Accordingly, as to each count, Norris admitted his personal knowledge during the plea colloquy in open court."
#6. To: Deckard (#3)
"Yeah - one frigging french fry - good grief!"
"No eating or drinking on the metro except for one french fry."
So you're saying we can arrest someone who eats two?
#7. To: Deckard (#3) (Edited)
Yeah - one frigging french fry - good grief!
Yeah – good grief! Once again, you fail to tell the whole story and understand the situation. It was not just one girl and one french fry.
There had been numerous complaints about people eating and drinking on the Metro by those who find having to watch, smell and hear other people eat intolerable.
Consequently, the Metro Transit Police conducted a week-long crackdown on violators and she was arrested for eating the after-school snack and violating the Metro’s regulation.
Over the years: "We've been doing our best to crack down on people who are consuming food and beverages in our stations because we get so many complaints about it," said Lisa Farbstein, a Metro spokeswoman."
The 17-year old girl was a regular rider on the transit and she knew the rule….yet she chose to completely ignore the rule and therefore she faced the consequence.
Sounds like one of your kind….eh, Deckard? Screw the rule, do whatever you want to.
#8. To: Gatlin (#7)
Meese appears to believe that overcriminalization is a real problem.
He must be a pot-smoking anarchist who wants to kill cops, right queerbait?
Edwin Meese III was U.S. attorney general under President Reagan, and is chairman of the Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at the Heritage Foundation
When three missing fish can land someone in jail on felony charges, reform is needed.
"There is no one in the United States over the age of 18 who cannot be indicted for some federal crime,” retired Louisiana State University law professor John Baker told the Wall Street Journal in July 2011. “That is not an exaggeration.”
In Ayn Rand’s magnum opus, Atlas Shrugged, Doctor Floyd Ferris, one of the book’s main antagonists, told Hank Reardon, a proud producer who had earned the ire of crony special interests and government officials, that “there’s no way to rule innocent men.”
“The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them,” said Ferris. “One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
Fiction has become reality.
The United States now has some 300,000 federal regulations, and this long spool of burdensome and complex red tape grows every year. What’s more, there are about 4,500 federal criminal statutes on the books carrying fines or prison terms for offenders.
There are so many regulations and criminal statutes on the books that a civil-liberties expert and lawyer, Harvey Silverglate, thinks that the average American commits three felonies a day, and they often are not even aware they are breaking the law. That is, not until a federal agency begins an investigation and they are indicted.
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Oh, that last article is from National Review, of course to you they are spreading propaganda and engaging in "yellow journalism".
Why?
Because you don't like the message.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#9. To: Deckard (#8)
…engaging in "yellow journalism".
Why?
Because you don't like the message.
No, because the examples used were cherry to be “tear-jerkers” and did not completely detail the events surrounding the situations. They were only used to elicit sympathy for the author’s agenda. That, sport….is yellow journalism. Something I greatly detest.
#10. To: Deckard (#8) (Edited)
"When three missing fish can land someone in jail on felony ch charges, reform is needed."
From your link:
"After inspecting some 3,000 fish, the official identified 72 red grouper that did not meet the minimum 20-inch conservation standard and issued a citation from the state. He ordered Yates to bring the undersized catch when he returned to port."
"When Yates returned to port the next day, armed federal agents stood by while inspectors reexamined his catch, finding only 69 fish under the minimum standard. Federal officials accused Yates of destroying evidence — the missing three red grouper — related to a federal investigation."
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From a story in the New York Times:
"Mr. Jones, an officer with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and a federal deputy, measured the fish and placed the 72 he deemed too small in a crate. He issued a citation and instructed Mr. Yates to take the crate to port for seizure."
"But Mr. Yates had the fish thrown overboard and replaced with larger ones. A second inspection in port aroused suspicions, and a crew member eventually told law enforcement officials what had happened."
"Mr. Yates was prosecuted under the financial fraud law, which was enacted after the collapse of Enron, the giant energy company. He was convicted and sentenced to 30 days’ imprisonment."
#11. To: Gatlin (#9) (Edited)
They were only used to elicit sympathy for the author’s agenda.
You must be joking - the story is completely factual and you're whining (again) because you don't like what was said in the article or how it was written.
The agenda of National Review as well as the other sources I use is called the Truth.
For someone who prides himself on being a "truthseeker", you're really pretty much a ranting hypocrite.
Your "yellow journalism" schtick is getting tiresome.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#12. To: Deckard (#11)
You must be joking - the story is completely factualThere is nothing to joke about.
The story is not COMPLETELY factual.
Here are the COMPLETE facts:
Signs warning that it is illegal to eat or drink on the cars and in the stations are posted in the Metro system. Ansche Hedgepeth told the police she knew she wasn’t supposed to eat in the station but didn’t think she would get arrested. Commuter complaints about unlawful eating on Metro cars and in stations led McDevitt to mount an undercover crackdown on violators. A dozen plainclothes officers cited or arrested 35 people, 13 of them juveniles. Only one adult was arrested.Your article presented only partial information to solicit sympathy. That is yellow journalism and I don’t give a shit that you think my pounding on your "yellow journalism" article is getting tiresome. As long as you continue to post it, I will continue to point out the errors.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94999&page=1.
#13. To: Gatlin (#12)
Commuter complaints about unlawful eating on Metro cars and in stations led McDevitt to mount an undercover crackdown on violators. A dozen plainclothes officers cited or arrested 35 people, 13 of them juveniles.
There's the problem in a nutshell - too many "the law is the law" tattle-tales and punitive populist Gestapo snitches like you have decided to call the cops on every petty little event, whether it be unlicensed lemonade stands, front-yard gardens or seeing a kid walking to school by himself.
I'm sick and tired of you nanny-state pricks telling others how to run their own lives.
Too many lawmakers, and too many voters (like you) subscribe to the adage, “There ought to be a law.” That which is good should be mandatory; that which is bad should be banned.
But, as Ronald Reagan once said, “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.”
That’s worth keeping in mind the next time we think about granting the government more power to regulate our lives. And it is worth remembering the next time some politician promises that he will get some law passed because it is for our own good.
Meanwhile, muggers and purse snatches remain loose in the Metro system because of this poor use of police resources.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#14. To: Deckard (#13)
Commuter complaints about unlawful eating on Metro cars and in stations led McDevitt to mount an undercover crackdown on violators. A dozen plainclothes officers cited or arrested 35 people, 13 of them juveniles.Nope, that’s not the problem in a nutshell.There's the problem in a nutshell
The reality is that no passenger should find it necessary to sit next to a person eating surströmming or any of the other most putrid smelling foods in the world.
#15. To: Deckard, misterwhite, nolu chan (#11) (Edited)
I will devote time to take down one more point in your yellow journalism article.
A cancer-ridden grandmother arrested and criminally charged for refusing to trim her hedges the way officials in Palo Alto, Calif., were trying to force her to.
Although Kay Leibrand’s was fighting cancer, her bout with cancer had nothing to do with the situation. It was merely used as a “sympathy ploy” to get bleeding heart liberals and stupid ass Paultard libertarians to join in and support an agenda movement.
Kay Leibrand and her husband had been actively gardening ever since they moved into their bungalow on a corner lot in 1966.
Kay Leibrand receive a “Notification of Violation” from Palo Alto in 2001 and she promptly trimmed her hedges. But she decided to show the city who was boss and she did not trim them back so they were no more than two feet tall as the code required. She was on a corner lot and the xylosma hedges were curbside blocking view from oncoming vehicles in the cross lanes. Oh, your yellow journalism article FAILED to mention this….hmmm!
Just a few weeks later, though, the city sent Kay Leibrand a second notification. After taking the time to trim her hedges further, Leibrand and her husband both inspected the hedges and they decided the hedges passed inspection….although they were still more than two feet tall curbside on a corner lot.
She continued her battle with the city and remained in non-compliance with the code when she then asked Palo Alto’s Code Enforcement Officer to come to her property to verify that the bushes did not impair visibility or pose a safety hazard. The Code Enforcement Officer said he was unable to do that since her case had become “high profile.” He would not, therefore, exercise his discretion to grant her a waiver.
She then wrote another letter to Palo A;to’s Chief Planning Official. The city’s response was that she comply with the code. She replied that she had pruned her bushes twice and that she would not prune them again. She added, “I am not convinced that the plants are a safety hazard” and noted the numerous “stop sign violations, speed, and cut-through traffic” that occurred at the intersection. (And yet, her overgrown hedges were “no” problem….in her mind).
Enough was enough. Palo Alto referred the situation to a Special Legal Counsel who apparently recommended that the two Palo Alto police officers be sent to her home to make the arrest.
After she was booked. Soon after Kay Leibrand pleaded not guilty and her case was set for trial by jury, Palo Alto officials began negotiating with her to settle the charges. To avoid jail time, Mrs. Leibrand agreed to comply with the code and make a donation to a tree-planting organization.
Honestly, Deckard….there is GOOD reason that curbside hedges should be trimmed below two feet on a corner lot with vehicle cross traffic on the street. In your dimwitted viewpoint with such a warped outlook on life you need to realize that the author was playing the “cancer card” when emoting his yellow journalism in a gross theatrical manner. Especially since the author never explained the hedges were curbside on a corner lot blocking view from cross vehicle traffic and there was valid reason for the hedges to be trimmed below two feet.
#16. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#14)
" no passenger should find it necessary to sit next to a person eating surströmming or any of the other most putrid smelling foods in the world. "
I thought the 12 yr old girl was eating a french fry. ????
I have never heard of putrid smelling french fry's. ???
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.
I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#17. To: Stoner, Gatlin (#16)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#18. To: Stoner, Deckard (#16) (Edited)
I have never heard of putrid smelling french fry's. ???
It has happened a number of times that a french fry smelled like “dung” and dung certainly is a putrid smell. While there is no doubt a number of things you have never heard of, you may also have never had the usage difference between ignorant and uninformed explained. There is a difference, I will explain it for you. In ordinary usage one is considered a put down and the other is considered a statement of fact. So, I ask: Are you simply ignorant or just uninformed when you have never heard of something that actually exists?
A serious question here, how bad can a french fry ever smell?
The answer is 'tastes and smells like dung'You might feel puzzled why I would say this out of no where. This is because this afternoon, I tasted the most horrible, corrigible, terrble tasting french fry! right in a famous fast food chain. It's first letter is 'M' but I can tell you it is NOT McDonald.
I guess this is the worst food experience in my whole life. The french fry (*note: Only 1 french fry out the whole packet) looks normal, but one bite and it emits the smell of drainage water/ unprocessed pig innards...
This is really not a joke. It smells so bad that my sister can also smell it a few cms away. I immediately spit it out and rinsed my mouth. I showed it to a staff and when she smelled it, she was shocked by the pungent smell and threw it right back on the tray! - making this the 2nd ridiculous experience. I mean, when a customer complain to you about yr product, you dont give give a heck care look and throw the product back to the customer! Terrible customer service.
In the end, I informed another staff about it and she too agree that it smells bad. but again, no explanation, no recovery. They are really lucky that I wasnt any mystery diner, otherwise, I would FAIL them utterly. Zero!
Let me know if you want to know which fast food, which outlet. I will definitely let you know. Meanwhile, I am going to boycott them for the time being, I still cant forget that taste/smell right now.
Posted by Angeline
http:// blogelicious.blogspot.com/search/label/Customer%20Service.
British chips are US french fries, with that in mind:
We were sitting down to a meal that included some oven chips (ok ok that was our first mistake !)....my wife thought she could smell something bad..... when she put a chip in her mouth she had to immediately spit it out. It smelled (and tasted (briefly)) absolutely vile ! It smelled like a mixture of sh&t and halitosis.Posted by Geordie Jester
https://www.avforums.com/threads/rotten-chips.932980/.
There are other situations with stories of “putrid” smelling french fries and chips, but I feel I have educated you enough for this evening. If the word educate makes you think of a child, you're not far off. It comes from the Latin word educare meaning to "bring up, rear.”
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#19. To: Deckard (#17)
#20. To: Gatlin, Stoner (#18)
you may also have never had the usage difference between ignorant and uninformed explained. There is a difference, I will explain it for you. In ordinary usage one is considered a put down and the other is considered a statement of fact. So, I ask: Are you simply ignorant or just uninformed when you have never heard of something that actually exists?
You pompous arrogant prick - ignorant and uninformed are synonyms.
Ignorant: lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated. "he was told constantly that he was ignorant and stupid" synonyms: uneducated, unknowledgeable, untaught, unschooled, untutored, untrained, illiterate, unlettered, unlearned, unread, uninformed, unenlightened, benighted;
Who the hell are you to lecture posters here and try to make yourself seem more important than you actually are?
You're a legend in your own mind you self-aggrandizing bastard.
Most of us here are sick of your condescending and "know it all" attitude.
BTW, the correct comparison would have been "ignorant" and "stupid"
You've once again shown that you are the latter of the two.
Frigging fascist asshole - go report some kids in your neighborhood running a lemonade stand or something, effing Gestapo snitch.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#21. To: Deckard (#20) (Edited)
Then would you use “ignorant” or “uninformed” to describe someone who never heard of something that actually exists?
Who the hell are you to lecture posters here …
I am GATLIN….and don’t you ever forget that!!!
#22. To: Gatlin (#18)
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight,
Your " opinion " has been noted. As usual, it is highly dubious, and is of minuscule value. In fact, I recently flushed objects worth more than your "opinion".
Go find someone else to annoy sarge tater.
LOLAYDS
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.
I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#23. To: Deckard (#0)
A former high-school science whiz kid sent to prison after initially being arrested by FBI agents clad in SWAT gear for failing to affix a federally mandated sticker to his otherwise legal UPS package.
First of all, being “a former high-school science whiz kid” has absolutely NOTHING to do with the story, just as the lady in the previous story having cancer also had nothing to do with that story. Both conditions were used as yellow journalism descriptive adjectives to elicit sympathy….like “poor little kid” and “oh, that poor old sick lady.”
The adult, years removed from being a kid, in this story sold sodium on ebay. While the article in its true yellow journalism used only the word, sodium….it failed to reference: Data from the Hazardous Materials Table: SODIUM. The article also neglected to mention that “Pure sodium is a metal that, when in direct contact with a certain amount of water, can explode.”
Because of the explosive nature of sodium, federal regulations require a HAZMAT label showing material content and it must be shipped by ground rather than air. Given some unique locations, even “ground delivery” sometimes travels by air and a special label is required to keep a HAZMAT shipment from “delivery by aircraft.” So, with no label….guess what happened? Air shipment.
Oh, the article would of course mention that the BIG BAD SWAT TEAM was involved….let’s cover that. Given that two officers responded to a family disturbance call in Palm Springs, California, and it cost them their lives….the ignorant asshole author faked astonishment when a SWAT team responded to someone shipping hazardous material that could be used for bomb making. Geezze!
So, with the scene set by the irresponsible action of the individual and not knowing if they were dealing with a fanatical terrorist, federal agents in “two black SUVs, waving assault rifles, forced the man’s car off the road. Manhandling him as if he were a possible terrorist, they arrested and charged him with selling about 41 pounds of sodium….“violating a federal law against improper shipment of hazardous materials by interstate commerce.” Again: Pure sodium is a metal that, when in direct contact with a certain amount of water, can explode.
A jury acquitted him of all charges.” So, therein lies the GROSS yellow journalism reporting implication. He was NOT” sent to prison for failing to affix a federally mandated sticker.
Then what was he sent to prison for?
Ah ha! Federal authorities later dispatched EPA agents to an industrial supply facility where he had hazardous materials stored. They spent some $430,000 disposing of every bit of the hazardous materials. Despite his earlier acquittal, the feds filed new charges for illegally transporting hazardous materials and for improperly disposing of hazardous waste in accordance with EPA regulations.
So, a jury of his peers found him guilty of the illegal disposal charge and not for “failing to affix a federally mandated sticker.” He was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison.
As Paul Harvey would say: “And now you know — the [true] story.”
The author said:
I could go on, but all these stories share one thing in common — they are about typical Americans.To that, I say: I could go on and I will because these stories share one thing in common – they are yellow journalism trash at its best!
All that is needed now is from some ignoramus to come along to say: “I have never heard that sodium can be explosive. ???
If that happens, you take care of it….I have educared all I want to on this subject.
Good Day.
#24. To: Deckard (#20)
Who the hell are you to lecture posters here and try to make yourself seem more important than you actually are?
It is you agenda driven drug addict lovers that feel you all are the most important, above all other constitutional rights. In your tiny liberal self important mind, nothing you do victimizes another.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#25. To: GrandIsland (#24)
It is you agenda driven drug addict lovers that feel you all are the most important, above all other constitutional rights. In your tiny liberal self important mind, nothing you do victimizes another.
Historically, do you agree with:
Amendment 18Section. 1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.
Sec. 2. The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Sec. 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
OR do you agree with:
Amendment 21Section. 1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Sec. 2. The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited.
Sec. 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
Snicker.....
#26. To: Stoner (#18)
I have never heard of putrid smelling french fry's. ???Putrid smelling French fries:
Okay, this is really random and awkward, but we got a bag of french fries, and after we baked them, my mom noticed that maybe 4 or 5 of them smelt like poop! And not just cow manure either, actual human crap! It was disgusting... Should we call the company??
Posted by animefan44
https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130513153813AAO3ZqGMy husband thought I was crazy when I told him a few of my fries from Raising Canes' tasted like pig poop and bad breath! I'm so relieved to see that I'm not crazy and you guys have had similar experiences with crinkle cut fries! I wonder what causes this?!
Posted by stella
https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130513153813AAO3ZqGI had a french fry today that tasted like a cross between poop and bad-breath. Very strong stench and unfortunately it went in my mouth before I fully caught it. It was McCain s crinkle cut too. I am going to contact them.
Posted by Jill
https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130513153813AAO3ZqGI know this is an old post but I just bought and baked a pack of crinkle cut McCain chips in the oven.. After devouring nearly a whole bag between us I picked up one or two and put them in my mouth.. I now know what horse faeces tastes like because it tasted how it smelt.. Like actual ****! I spat out the poo tasting chips and they still smell like actual horse poo! Problem is the whole bag is nearly gone and the only evidence is the smelly spat out chips which I doubt proves much. I can also dish out the empty bag in my bin. Did you look into yours further and what was the outcome?
Posted by Elise
https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130513153813AAO3ZqGWere these McCain fries? I just had this same exact problem yesterday. Disgusting!
Posted by Mandy
https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130513153813AAO3ZqGI always buy frozen essential waitrose oven chips, have done for some time because they can be fried as well which is nice as a treat. I'd got 3 unopened bags in the freezer, only when I started to cook them the smell was horrific. Other half said they smelled like 'sick', to me it was like manure. They stank out the house and tasted as bad. Bags 2 and 3 were just the same. When I checked the reviews it seems this has happened to other people as well. So, what does make a bag of chips smell like a farmyard?
Posted by Jane Hobbit Barker
https://www.facebook.com/ocado/posts/10151229648957473
#27. To: Gatlin (#26)
You are well known to have your nose up "yukon's" asshole and NOW you worry about putrid fries? Weird.
#28. To: GrandIsland, Trump legalize drugs, medicinal marijuana (#24)
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19900414&id=eUoeAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EHoEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4675,4533445&hl=en
agenda driven drug addict lovers
What's your agenda, shooting heroin with Trump, and smoking doobies with Jeb!?
Trump: "Marijuana really helps". Jeb! thinks so too! In 1990 Trump wanted to legalize ALL drugs, same as Ron Paul. Now he want's to legalize medical marijuana. You love the druggies!
Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)
#29. To: hondo68 (#28)
Sarasota Herald-Tribune
Apr 14, 1990
People section. No attribution.
#30. To: nolu chan, Trump a Paultard, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#29) (Edited)
news.google.com/newspaper...BAJ&pg=2452,5961567&hl=en
Chicago Tribune - Knight-Ridder Newspapers
articles.chicagotribune.c...czars-enforcement-efforts
Trump was for legalizing heroin and ALL drugs, before he was against it! He was right, before he turned wrong. He's a flip-flopper like Kerry, and Mittens too.
I wonder if The Donald became a libertarian during Ron Paul's '88 presidential run under the Libertarian Party banner? Looks like Trump may have been a Paultard as far back as then.
Then he started dating Ruby Giuliani...
Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)
#31. To: hondo68 (#30)
I wonder if The Donald became a libertarian during Ron Paul's '88 presidential run under the Libertarian Party banner?
You go ahead and wonder. I don't give a fuck.
There is a long history and thousands of emails documenting Hillary is corrupt.
#32. To: hondo68 (#28)
27 year old bullshit? You are worse than Lame Steam Media when it comes to TRUMP. All you drug scumbags are filthy libtarded... Just like MSM. It's why you fuck stains hate him so much. lol
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#33. To: nolu chan, heroin Trump (#31)
Hillary is corrupt.
Yes, the Chicago Tribune story about Trump wanting to legalize all drugs is true.
Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)
#34. To: hondo68 (#33)
Yes, the Chicago Tribune story about Trump wanting to legalize all drugs is true.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11915
Wikileaks - Foreign Registered Agents - [Jennifer Palmieri] Take the money!!
Re: Foreign registered agents
From :jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: re47@hillaryclinton.com Date: 2015-04-17 01:38 Subject: Re: Foreign registered agents
Take the money!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Robby Mook wrote:
Marc made a convincing case to me this am that these sorts of restrictions don't really get you anything...that Obama actually got judged MORE harshly as a result. He convinced me. So...in a complete U-turn, I'm ok just taking the money and dealing with any attacks. Are you guys ok with that?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dennis Cheng
Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: Foreign registered agents
To: Marc Elias , Robby Mook < re47@hillaryclinton.com>
Cc: Karuna Seshasai , Huma Abedin < ha16@hillaryclinton.com>, Jesse Ferguson , Kristina Schake , Tony Carrk < tcarrk@hillaryclinton.com>, Rebecca Leal , Nicholas Pancrazio , Beth Jones < bjones@hillaryclinton.com>, John Podesta
Hi all – we really need to make a final decision on this. We’re getting to the point of no return…
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*From:* Marc Elias [mailto:melias@hillaryclinton.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:38 AM
*To:* Robby Mook
*Cc:* Dennis Cheng; Karuna Seshasai; Huma Abedin; Jesse Ferguson; Kristina Schake; Tony Carrk; Rebecca Leal; Nicholas Pancrazio; Beth Jones; John Podesta
*Subject:* Re: Foreign registered agents
If we do it case by case, then it will be subjective. We would look at who the donor is and what foreign entity they are registered for. In judging whether to take the money, we would consider the relationship between that country and the United States, its relationship to the State Department during Hillary's time as Secretary, and its relationship, if any, to the Foundation. In judging the individual, we would look at their history of support for political candidates generally and Hillary's past campaigns specifically.
Put simply, we would use the same criteria we use for lobbyists, except with a somewhat more stringent screen.
As a legal matter, I am not saying we have to do this - we can decide to simply ban foreign registrants entirely. I'm just offering this up as a middle ground.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Robby Mook wrote:
Where do we draw the line though?
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On Apr 15, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Marc Elias wrote:
Responding to all on this. I was not on the call this morning, but I lean away from a bright line rule here. It seems odd to say that someone who represents Alberta, Canada can't give, but a lobbyist for Phillip Morris can. Just as we vet lobbyists case by case, I would do the same with FARA. While this may lead to a large number of FARA registrants being denied, it would not be a flat our ban. A total ban feels arbitrary and will engender the same eye-rolling and ill will that it did for Obama.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Dennis Cheng wrote:
Hi all – we do need to make a decision on this ASAP as our friends who happen to be registered with FARA are already donating and raising.
I do want to push back a bit (it’s my job!): I feel like we are leaving a good amount of money on the table (both for primary and general, and then DNC and state parties)… and how do we explain to people that we’ll take money from a corporate lobbyist but not them; that the Foundation takes $ from foreign govts but we now won’t.
Either way, we need to make a decision soon.
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*From:* Karuna Seshasai [mailto:kseshasai@hillaryclinton.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:35 PM
*To:* Huma Abedin
*Cc:* Robby Mook; Dennis Cheng; Jesse Ferguson; Marc Elias; Kristina Schake; Tony Carrk; Rebecca Leal; Nicholas Pancrazio; Beth Jones; John Podesta
*Subject:* Re: Foreign registered agents
Following up on the call from 9:30.
The policy would be to not allow any currently registered foreign agents (those who register with FARA) to contribute or raise for the campaign. If someone terminates their registration, they would be allowed to contribute or raise for the campaign.
Marc, we'd especially like your perspective on adopting this policy..
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Huma Abedin wrote:
That would be helpful.
Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 14, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Robby Mook wrote:
Not to get too processy...but could you, me, Podesta, Tony, (and Huma if possible) and someone from comms do a quick 10 min call on this? We'll finalize a decision.
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Karuna Seshasai < kseshasai@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:
Wanted to follow back up on this.
We're consistently flagging more FARA registrants daily. In terms of # - we're at 27 out of 370 prospective bundlers - but to Jesse's question - that does not represent the costs of how much these folks would likely raise.
If we were looking at these folks below on a case by case basis, I'd want to specifically raise: Tony Podesta (Iraq, Azerbaijan, Egypt), Ben Barnes (Libya), John Merrigan (UAE), Wyeth Weidman (Libya), and Mike Driver (UAE connections).
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Karuna Seshasai < kseshasai@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:
Yes, it's attached and also copied/pasted below.
This is only 23 names of the first 350 prospective bundlers we looked at pre-launch. I anticipate more coming down the pipeline.
*First Name*
*Last Name*
*FARA Registered Agent*
*Client (if listed)*
Imaad
Zuberi
Beltway Government Strategies Inc (Zuberi is a Partner)
Office of the Monitoring MP for the Ministry of External Affairs, Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka (8/14/14 - Current)
Anthony "Tony"
Podesta
The Podesta Group
Republic of Iraq (2/28/13 - Current); Embassy of the Republic of Azerbaijan (1/31/13 Current); Republic of Cyprus (11/13/12 - Current); Republic of Kosovo (3/13/12 - Current); Republic of Albania (4/15/11 - Current); Republic of India (10/8/10 - Current); National Security Council of Georgia (2/3/10 - Current); Hong Kong Trade Dvelopment Council (4/20/09 - Current); The Government of the Arab republic of egypt (4/1/09 - Current, previously 5/18/07- 6/30/07) PLM Group, LLC (9/27/07- 3/1/09); Podesta Associates, Inc (2/17/94- 2/10/95)
Ben
Barnes
Ben Barnes Group for National Board
The Following Up and Recovering of the Libyan Looted and Disguised Funds of the Transitional Government of Libya, through Washington African Consulting Group, Inc (12/3/14 - Current); and Sharp & Barnes LLP for The Republic of Colombia Federacion Nacional de Departamentos (8/31/10 - Current); and Alcalde & Fay (10/21/94- 2/12/96)
Heather
Podesta
Heather Podesta
Taipei Economic and Cultural representative Office in the U.S. (5/15/12 - Current)
Hon. Ronnie
Shows
AUX Initiatives LLC
Dr Bashir Musa (8/18/14- Current)
John
Breaux
Patton Boggs
The Kurdistan regional Government (5/18/14 - Current), Government of the Republic of Cyprus (8/4/09 -10/31/11), Embassy of India, Embassy of the Republic of Peru, Government of the Republic of Cyprus (10/20/08- 10/31/11), (9/25/07- 10/31/11), (2/27/07- 10/31/11); and Breaux Lott Leadership Group for Government of Taiwan, Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (5/21/09-5/11/10)
John
Merrigan
DLA Piper LLP
Presidential Campaign of Hipolito Mejia; Embassy of the UAE (1/30/12 - Current), Embassy of the UAE; Executive Office of Dubai; Government of Turkey; Government of Ethiopia; Senado de Maxico; Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister and Vice President of the UAE, Sheikh Hamdan Bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Minister of Finance and Industry of the UAE, the Executive Office (12/15/08 - Current), Executive Office of Dubai; Government of Turkey; Government of Ethiopia; Senado de Maxico; Borse Dubai Limited; Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister and Vice President of the UAE, Sheikh Hamdan Bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Minister of Finance and Industry of the UAE, the Executive Office (6/26/08 - Current), (11/2/07, 5/10/07, 12/8/06, 11/20/06, 5/4/06); and Verner, Liipfert, Bernhard, McPherson & Hand, Chartered for (3/6/02, 4/26/01, 12/16/98, 10/3/97, 12/5/95, 6/2/95, 9/19/88, 8/5/85- 6/3/94)
Jonathon
Jones
Peck Madigan Jones
Embassy of New Zealand (6/10/13 - Current), ProExport Colombia (4/22/11- 10/31/11)
Michael
Smith
Cornerstone Governmen Affairs, LLC
Justice Equality Movement Embassy of the Republic of Korea (1/16/15 - Current), LNG Allies Inc (7/2/14 - Current), Embassy of the Republic of Korea (3/7/14 - Current)
Paul
Brathwaite
Podesta Group
Embassy of Japan, Federal Republic of Somalia (9/16/13 - Current), Republic of Albania; National Security Council of georgia; Embassy of Japan (7/29/11- 6/30/12), Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt (4/1/09- 12/31/10) and PLM Group for Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt (4/24/08- 3/1/09)
Thomas
Daschle
Daschle Group
Taipei Economic and cultural representative Office (*3/16/15 - Current)*
Wyeth
Wiedeman
Ben Barnes Group
National Board for the Following Up and Recovering of the Libyan Looted and Disguised Funds of the Transitional Government of Libya, through Washington African Consulting Group, Inc (12/3/14 - Current); and Sharp & Barnes LLP for The Republic of Colombia Federacion Nacional de Departamentos (2/2/11- 11/1/11)
Larry
Rasky
Rasky Baerlein Strategic Communications
Socialist Party of Albania (3/29/2010 - 9/22/2010) and Serbia Investment and Export Promotion Agency (10/26/2008 - 9/22/2010)
David
Castagnetti
Mehlman Vogel Castagnetti
Embassy of Panama (5/24/11 - 5/15/12); Province of Alberta Canada (3/20/13- 6/1/13)
Gerald
Cassidy
Cassidy & Associates (10/4/07- 12/31/10; 8/27/91- 12/1/00; 6/4/84- 11/2/84)
Gov. Jim
Blanchard
DLA Piper US LLP (11/25/1991- 12/09/1992; 4/14/2009- 9/15/2010)
James "Jimmy"
Ryan
Elmendorf Ryan
Colombian Foreign Investment and Export Promotion Agency (4/21/11 -10/13/11)
John
Quinn
Quinn Gillespie & Associates
Japan External Trade Organization; Shining Prospect; Government of Macedonia; Government of Republika Srpska (3/17/09 - 10/1/11); Shining Prospect, Government of Macedonia, Government of Republika Srpska (2/19/09); (6/20/07, 6/1/06, 12/22/04- 6/30/05)
Kelly
Bingel
Mehlman Vogel Castagnetti)
Embassy of Panama (5/24/11- 5/15/12), Province of Alberta Canada (3/20/13- 6/1/13
Mike
Driver
Squire Patton Boggs
Al-Hamar Trading Group (6/21/12- 6/26/13); (6/16/03- 12/31/05)
Norm
Brownstein
Brownstwin Hyatt Farber Schreck (7/2/07- 10/17/07)
Steve
Elmendorf
Elmendorf Ryan
Colombian Foreign Investment and Export Promotion Agency (4/21/11- 10/13/11)
Vic
Fazio
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld
Hong kong Trade Development Council (2/21/12; 6/24/05); and Clark & Weinstock (1/26/05- 5/31/05), (9/10/01- 6/30/03)
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Dennis Cheng wrote:
Karuna, can you recirculate the list of foreign agents that we know of so far? It's not a huge # in terms of the # of people - but it does include people we are close with like Tony Podesta, DLA Piper, etc.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Jesse Ferguson < jferguson@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:
Is there anyway to ballpark what percent of our donor base this would apply to (aka how much money we're throwing away)
Cost benefits are easier to analyze with the costs. :)
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Marc Elias wrote:
This is really a straight up political call. One middle option is to take case by case. If, for example, they are FARA registered for Canada, we may not case. If for N. Korea we would.
But really comm's call.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Karuna Seshasai < kseshasai@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:
+ Nick and Beth.
Want to add that these folks can also be divided into two categories - those who lobbied while HRC was at State and those who are currently registered.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Dennis Cheng wrote:
We really need make a policy decision on this soon - whether we are allowing those lobbying on behalf of foreign governments to raise $ for the campaign. Or case by case.
--
*Dennis Cheng*
National Finance Director
Hillary for America
dcheng@hillaryclinton.com
--
Jesse F. Ferguson
Deputy National Press Secretary and Senior Spokesman
Hillary for America
@JesseFFerguson
Gchat: Jfferg
--
*Dennis Cheng*
National Finance Director
Hillary for America
dcheng@hillaryclinton.com
#35. To: nolu chan, Hillarys GOP ISIS of Lybia, Africa, registered foreign agents (#34)
Ben Barnes Group for National BoardThe Following Up and Recovering of the Libyan Looted and Disguised Funds of the Transitional Government of Libya, through Washington African Consulting Group, Inc (12/3/14 - Current); and Sharp & Barnes LLP for The Republic of Colombia Federacion Nacional de Departamentos (8/31/10 - Current); and Alcalde & Fay (10/21/94- 2/12/96)
Hillary's GOP Muslim Brotherhood of ISIS, has got your back!
Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)
#36. To: hondo68 (#35)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7176
Wikileaks - Re Julie
Re: Julie
From: cheryl.mills@gmail.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2014-12-28 16:14
Subject: Re: Julie
k
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On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 1:13 PM, John Podesta wrote:
Saw her pic in this or last weeks Enquirer. Probably need to revisit our Whitehaven conversation.
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It appears "Julie" refers to Julie McMahon, aka The Energizer.
http://nypost.com/2016/05/29/meet-bill-clintons-very-good-friend-behind-energizer-rumor/
Inside Bill Clinton’s relationship with his ‘very good friend’By Doree Lewak
NY Post
May 29, 2016 | 9:39am
EXCLUSIVE: What Bill Clinton's 'Energizer mistress' looks like today. Family friend seen for first time since revelation his foundation helped her firm
- Julie Tauber McMahon has been named as the 'Energizer', nickname given to alleged mistress by Bill Clinton's Secret Service detail
- Divorcee McMahon, 56, denies having had an affair with the former president and says she is simply 'family friend' of the Clintons
- This month it emerged a firm she holds a substantial stake in was aided in getting a grant by the Clinton Foundation
- Ex-president said to have personally intervened to secure home insulation company further government funding
- Donald Trump has increased his focus on Bill Clinton's private life and on Wednesday used word 'rape' during interview
- This week Hillary Clinton was asked to defend her husband's 'honor' but declined claiming it was what Trump wanted her to do
By Ben Ashford In Chappaqua
New York For Dailymail.com
Published: 12:42 EST, 20 May 2016
Updated: 18:10 EST, 20 May 2016
Bill Clinton’s Foundation gave $2M grant to his mistress’ company- - - - - - - - - -Posted on August 15, 2014
by Dr. EowynIt is interesting — and an indictment of the MSM — that a lowly supermarket tabloid once again has bravely gone where the MSM fear to tread.
The tabloid is The National Enquirer. Recall that in 2008, when former Democratic senator (NC) and John Kerry’s VP runningmate John Edwards was gunning to be his party’s presidential nominee, the Enquirer alone doggedly investigated and uncovered Edwards’ adultery with political groupie Rielle Hunter and their “love child.” For that, the Enquirer, justly, was nominated for the prestigious Pulitzer journalism award.
The latest Enquirer scoop concerns former president Bill Clinton’s financial dealings with his rumored long-time mistress.
In his new book, The First Family Detail: Secret Service Agents Reveal Hidden Lives of the Presidents, former Wall Street Journal reporter Ronald Kessler gives readers a look inside the private lives of politicians as told by the Secret Service agents assigned to protect them. According to Kessler, Bill Clinton is an unrepentant and unreformed philanderer with a long-time mistress whom the Secret Service nicknamed “the Energizer” — a sly reference to her indefatigable sexual appetite?
Reportedly, a “family member” of the woman has identified her to be 54-year-old blonde and wealthy divorcée Julie Tauber McMahon. Radar Online says McMahon has denied a romantic relationship with the 67-year-old Clinton, insisting the two are “just friends,” but the two are rumored to be in an extramarital affair for more than a decade.
Steve Herz reports for The National Enquirer, Aug. 14, 2014, that the latest Bill Clinton cheating scandal has exploded with a new twist – he may have awarded his on-off mistress’ company a $2 million grant through his non-profit Clinton Foundation’s Clinton Global Initiative.
The recipient of the $2 million “green” grant is Nebraska-based Energy Pioneer Solutions, where McMahon serves as an executive officer and director. The Enquirer discovered the grant buried in an official document released by the Clinton Foundation in 2010.
Since FOTM readers have scoffed at using the Enquirer as a source, I made an effort to independently — and successfully — verify the tabloid’s claim.
To begin, what is Energy Pioneer Solutions, Inc?
This is what Bloomberg Businessweek says about the company (you can also read what the company says about itself on its About Us page):
Energy Pioneer Solutions, Inc. provides energy-saving solutions. It offers upgrades/improvements, such infiltration leaks correction, ductwork and distribution improvement, programmable thermostats installation, wall and attic insulation improvement, and high-efficiency lights installation; and hot water heater, furnace, and air conditioner improvements. The company serves residential property owners and renters, commercial property owners and lessees, schools, and other public institutions. Energy Pioneer Solutions, Inc. was formerly known as Conserve Energy USA, Inc. The company was founded in 2009 and is based in Hastings, Nebraska.Businessweek identifies Julie McMahon as Energy Pioneer Solutions’ executive officer and director.
And here’s confirmation, from the Clinton Foundation‘s Press Release page, of the $2 million grant awarded to McMahon’s company:
Pioneering Permanent Energy SavingsKim Samuel-Johnson commits $2 million to support the work of Energy Pioneer Solutions, a company founded to deliver energy savings to communities in rural America. This service will allow customers in three Nebraska towns to cover the costs of energy-smart retrofits to their homes by paying for them with a portion of their annual energy savings. It will strive to fundamentally transform the way energy efficiency services are delivered to ratepayers by making retrofit assessments and implementation significantly faster and therefore accessible to more people. Energy Pioneer Solutions will work with 19 nonprofits and 6 local religious institutions to identify families that would benefit most from saving money by saving energy.
While there is no evidence there was anything illegal about the grant, given the rumors of Bill’s affair with McMahon, the grant is redolent with the stench of conflict of interest.
A source told the Enquirer, “If Hillary runs for president all this stuff will come under a microscope” — as it should.
~Eowyn
the two are rumored to be in an extramarital affair for more than a decade
It looks like Bill may have moved to Chappaqua so he could have some convenient pussy nearby. Directing charity money to support his pussy habit? That Alpha male dog.
#37. To: Stoner (#22) (Edited)
Go find someone else to annoy sarge tater.
Ahem. You posted to me and I only responded to your post.
#16. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#14)
[…]
I have never heard of putrid smelling french fry's. ???
Stoner posted on 2016-10-15 21:25:33 ET
I had no intention of “annoying” you. It was you who bothered me.
I merely responded to your post to me with FACTUAL information and attrition links to show you there have been a number of times where a French fries had a putrid smell.
Your " opinion " has been noted.
I gave NO “opinion.”
I presented factual testimonies with links.
How can you find so many linked FACTUAL testimonies “highly dubious?”
If you don’t want me to respond to your posts….then stop posting to me.
LOLAYDS
#38. To: Gatlin (#37)
LOLAYDS
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.
I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#39. To: Gatlin (#26)
Putrid smelling French fries:
The biggest cause would be not changing frying oil when it needs a change.
#40. To: misterwhite, Deckard (#1)
That happened in 2000. 16 years ago.
October 23, 2000 to be precise. The negative publicity surrounding Ansche's arrest prompted WMATA to adopt a new policy effective January 31, 2001, allowing officers to issue citations to juveniles violating § 35-251(b).
Adults, but not minors, could be issued a citation. The zero tolerance policy left law enforcement with only one alternative, to take Ansche into custody for a delinquent act. The ordinance and the zero tolerance policy and taking Ansche into custody were upheld by the D.C. Circuit Court. It was characterized as foolish but constitutional. The decision was written by Circuit Judge Roberts, then future Chief Justice John Roberts on October 26, 2004.
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