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Title: The real war on drugs
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URL Source: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re ... af7d9f72745baf629c36beb1951940
Published: Jul 27, 2016
Author: paraclete
Post Date: 2016-07-27 22:36:43 by paraclete
Keywords: drugs
Views: 2677
Comments: 19
The Phillipine President has launched a real war on drugs, you cannot applaud his methods but he is effective, now how is it the shame war on drugs in the US hasn't been so effective. is it that americans just don't trust the cops?
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#1. To: paraclete (#0) (Edited)
According to police data, 293 suspected users and pushers were killed during police operations between July 1 and July 24. Human rights groups say this figure does not include countless people murdered by vigilantes in street executions.
Studies show, that drug dealers/users that are shot and killed are 100% less likely to repeat offend.
And Paultards bitch that we are tooooooo mean to drug criminals, and we are soft compared to this country.... and Paultards have the NERVE to wonder why we're losing the war on drugs.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#2. To: GrandIsland (#1)
You are losing the war because you have turned it into an industry, the war on drugs employs thousand of people, if you used this method the war would be over and they would be out of work, first the prison guards, then the prosecutors and lastly the cops because they would be hunting for the murderers. You could decommission large numbers of prisons, turn them into holiday camps for illegal aliens
#3. To: paraclete (#2)
Typical.
Look at all the money we'll save by legalizing drugs -- we can close entire prisons, fire the guards, close courtrooms, fire judges and prosecutors, and reduce the size of the police force! We'll save hundreds of billions of dollars!
Then we can go after the real criminals by hiring back the cops, opening courtrooms, hiring prosecutors and judges, hiring guards and opening prisons. Costing hundreds of billions of dollars.
Here's the deal. Legalize drugs and no money will be saved. No one will be fired. Nothing will be closed. And you're insane if you think the American people will vote to legalize all drugs.
#4. To: GrandIsland (#1)
You should move to Phillipines.
#5. To: A Pole, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#4) (Edited)
You should move to Phillipines.
Both he and whitey want the US to become more like the Philippines, where anyone even suspected of drug usage can be summarily executed.
That's their plan to "win" the glorious jihad on drugs.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#6. To: misterwhite (#3)
And you're insane if you think the American people will vote to legalize all drugs.
It is not me who is insane, it is the american people. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect change. The US has unsuccessfully waged this war for 30 years, and yet you call me insane. What you have succeeded in doing is locking up millions of people for petty crime.
If you must wage a war on drugs wage a war on the dealers, the growers, destroy the poppy fields, the coco fields, the marijuana fields, decriminalise the possession of small quantities for personal use. You won't do it because your cops are on the take and there are vested commercial interests running the prisons. If you take real action it becomes a foreign policy initiative. Drugs are not a law enforcement issue, they are a health issue
#7. To: paraclete (#6)
"What you have succeeded in doing is locking up millions of people for petty crime."
We are locking up drug dealers and drug traffickers, not users. Dealing and trafficking are not petty crimes.
#8. To: misterwhite (#3)
Legalize drugs and no money will be saved.
Either money will be saved, or law enforcement resources will be freed up to direct against real crimes with actual victims - a win either way.
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#9. To: GrandIsland (#1)
Studies show, that drug dealers/users that are shot and killed are 100% less likely to repeat offend.And Paultards bitch that we are tooooooo mean to drug criminals, and we are soft compared to this country.... and Paultards have the NERVE to wonder why we're losing the war on drugs.
Litterers that are shot and killed are 100% less likely to repeat offend. Should we take that approach to win that war?
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#10. To: ConservingFreedom (#8)
"Either money will be saved, or law enforcement resources will be freed up to direct against real crimes with actual victims - a win either way."
In theory. Has it worked in practice?
#11. To: misterwhite (#10)
Has it worked in practice?
Where has it been put into practice?
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#12. To: ConservingFreedom (#11)
"Where has it been put into practice?"
In the states that decriminalized marijuana. In the states that legalized marijuana for medical use. In the states that legalized marijuana for recreational use.
Certainly those states are saving money because of reduced man-hours for police, prosecutors, judges and guards. Or by closing courtrooms, jails and prisons. They haven't?
Then (non-marijuana) crime must be way down since those resources have been redirected. One or the other, right?
And you have proof of this, right?
#13. To: misterwhite (#12)
In the states that decriminalized marijuana.
Not legalization.
In the states that legalized marijuana for medical use.
Also not legalization.
In the states that legalized marijuana for recreational use. [...] (non-marijuana) crime must be way down since those resources have been redirected.
Can't resist propping up a straw man - "WAY down" (emphasis added) - can you? There's an excellent chance non-marijuana crime - including non-marijuana drug crime - is down.
And you have proof of this, right?
You agreed with the theory ... so how did I get the burden of proof? Have any proof to the contrary?
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#14. To: ConservingFreedom (#13)
"You agreed with the theory"
No. I added that phrase to your statement since you conveniently left it out. I'd like to know if it worked in practice.
"In the states that decriminalized marijuana.
Not legalization.
In the states that legalized marijuana for medical use.
Also not legalization."
Both decriminalization and medical marijuana were sold to the public with those same promises.
#15. To: Deckard (#5)
That's their plan to "win" the glorious jihad on drugs.
I wanna do what's needed to stop your bitching about losing the war. I blame shitbags like you for the drug wars ineffectiveness. You beg for no consequences for breaking constitutionally legal drug laws and then cry when the drug war is losing.
Shut your shitbox.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#16. To: ConservingFreedom (#9)
Litterers that are shot and killed are 100% less likely to repeat offend. Should we take that approach
I'll refrain answering. I loath a fucking litter bug.
Litter bugs are scumbags.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#17. To: misterwhite (#14)
I added that phrase to your statement since you conveniently left it out.
What's the third option - the time cops and judges used to spend on drug cases they'd instead spend looking for Pokemon?
Both decriminalization and medical marijuana were sold to the public with those same promises.
Not by me.
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#18. To: GrandIsland (#16)
"Litterers that are shot and killed are 100% less likely to repeat offend. Should we take that approach"I'll refrain answering.
That's all the answer we needed, psycho.
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#19. To: ConservingFreedom (#18)
So says the weak pathetic libtard
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
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