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Opinions/Editorials Title: Response to comments: A Conspiracy Theory that became a “Conspiracy Fact”: The CIA … #29. To: Gatlin (#16) #32. To: Gatlin (#31) To: Deckard, Buckeroo, All I am coming back atcha … get ready for it because both barrels are loaded with “double aught” buckshot shells full of information. I had some time to spend … so as the Seeker of Truth, I started researching. The first two links in the article and your posts that I clicked on were broken and provided no information … nice work there, Sport. I finally found a working link and it used information from a journalist named Gary Webb that he presented in a three-part series called Dark Alliance, published in August 1996 by the San Jose Mercury News. So now the Seeker of Truth was finally onto something, a start. I set out to pursue information about Gary Webb and the Dark Alliance. In the first search hit, I quickly learned that Jeff Leen, The Washington Post’s assistant managing editor for investigations had already done my homework for me with astonishing and damning results. Jeff starts off with: An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof. That old dictum ought to hang on the walls of every journalism school in America. It is the salient lesson of the Gary Webb affair. It might have saved his journalism career …As I continued to read, I learned that Webb had made an extraordinary claim that the CIA was responsible for the crack cocaine epidemic in America, but what he lacked was the extraordinary proof. The NY Times, WAPO and the LA TIMES challenged the story for “its overblown claims and undernourished reporting.” The San Jose Mercury News then did an internal review of Webb’s “facts” and methods to conclude that the story by Webb “did not meet the newspaper’s standards.” I could continue on, but then why should I. I have spent enough time calling to your attention yet another agenda driven journalist and I now repeat my challenge for you to show me irrefutable evidence of your charges, but stop using people like Geraldo Rivera and Gary Webb again as your “expert witnesses.” It will be most educational for you to take time and read the damning expose on Webb by clicking here. While I continually try to tell you two narrow-minded idiots to stop buying into Yellow Journalism and do some simple fact-checking before you form an opinion or make a snap judgment, I know in my “heart of hearts” that you never will let truth become the dominate reality factor in your lives, because you cannot divorce yourself from your evil libertarian ideology. It is in my effort to further assist you to walk the narrow path of righteousness, that I now take liberty to repost the following information for your further enlightenment: It is unfortunate that the extended use of the Agenda-Setting Theory (AST) -- which I refer to as Yellow Journalism (YJ) -- has become too prevalent in the communications media. Many journalists have decided their job is to set the agenda instead of using the old fashion time-proven journalistic method of reporting “who, what, where, when, why and sometimes how.” This YJ is fast become the norm and we need look no further than the recent University of Virginia (UV) gang rape story for evidence of this. The YJ articles never connect all the dots to accurately report the facts.You may now resume your snickering at the Seeker of Truth while you continue to turn your spineless backs on the reality that just “bitch slapped the Hell outta you.” Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 14. You may now resume your snickering at the Seeker of Truth ... You mean yukon left us with you supplanting him? And he is just a memory?
#3. To: buckeroo, hondo68, jeremiad, Titorite2 (#1) (Edited) I always had my suspicions about Gatlin - and as he posts more and more of these so-called investigative screeds, it is becoming increasingly clear that he is a disinformation agent of some sort, being used by the government in some way, possibly in a paid capacity. It's more likely that he is doing this out of some delusional sense of patriotism or perhaps part of his retirement agreement. Look at his posting history for example - anytime a topic like this is broached, he jumps all over it like white on rice - explodes with indignation, then a few hours later, he has a professional looking post in which he claims to have debunked everything that was posted in the original thread. Notice that he focuses solely on one aspect (Gary Webb). He completely ignores the numerous links and documented facts that were posted in the original article - seems that the "Truth Seeker" was either too lazy or too afraid to continue his quest for "truth". Gatlin has been either unwilling or unable to debunk the premise of the original article - that is: The CIA has been (and still is) importing drugs for decades - that fact is unassailable. Gatlin would have you believe otherwise. He claims that Gary Webb was lying - anyone who has diligently researched that particular sordid episode knows beyond a doubt that Webb's sources were unimpeachable. His newspaper took a lot of risks running his "Dark Alliance" series. Of course one only has to look at Gatlin's reactions when anything that exposes the criminal and corrupt actions of fed.gov is posted and it becomes more and more obvious that he is a shill. Only someone either naive beyond belief or who is working for some agency to quash the truth would continually assert that the United States government is not guilty of numerous horrific crimes against its own citizens. I don't believe Gatlin is naive. MK-ULTRA, Project Mockingbird, The USS Liberty, the crimes of Mena, the Tuskegee experiment - these and any other DOCUMENTED atrocities will be vehemently denied to have happened by the professional shill. Gatlin certainly exhibits most of the traits that a disinformation specialist would have and no doubt is being used by someone in government to "catapult the propaganda". Here are just a few of those traits that Gatlin exhibits: Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility. Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well. Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength. Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a News Group (NG) focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do. Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth. These are just a few examples, but I'm sure you get the drift. My gut feeling is that the poster who goes by the moniker "Gatlin" is a government propagandist.
#10. To: Deckard (#3) On December 10, 2004, the journalist [Gary Webb] was found dead in his apartment, having ended his eight-year downfall with two .38-caliber bullets to the head. Coroner: Gary Webb's Death Confirmed as Suicide. Poor fella, took two bullets … hmmm, ya think he was a libertarian ... took Two bullets?
#12. To: Gatlin (#10) two .38-caliber bullets to the head. Oh, two bullets? Nah - nothing fishy about that. Carry on with your regularly scheduled programming.
#14. To: Deckard (#12) Oh, two bullets? Yea, it's stinks (fishy smell) to high Heaven that the guy was incapable of even shooting himself correctly the first time. It may come as a shock to you, Sport ... there are cases where people can still function with a bullet to the head. Does your pea brain EVER think anything through?
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