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Title: Libertarians are Awesome
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Published: Jul 1, 2016
Author: Me
Post Date: 2016-07-01 03:00:22 by Pinguinite
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Views: 9854
Comments: 77
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#1. To: Pinguinite (#0)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
Whomever authors all this artwork is similarly ignorant about what libertarianism is.
Apparently it's the standard dogma among the anti-freedom posters here that only libertarians hate taxes and regulations and love guns. You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
It's a misconception that libertarians smoke pot? Fascinating.
The most notable point of ignorance is that libertarians want no government whatsoever.
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian. Looks like you had a posting fubar.
The ignorance continues when they claim that libertarians are both liberals and anarchists. They can't seem to gasp the concept that the two are polar opposites - modern liberals are in favor of MORE government, anarchists - none. If anything, the current crop of self-described conservatives here have more in common with liberals than libertarians do. True. Both want big government control of life. How does that saying go? A conservative doesn't know the difference between a sin and a crime, and a liberal doesn't know the difference between charity and robbery.
Nope.
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
You obviously have zero reading comprehension. Roscoe posted an image that reads: No taxes. No Government. No Regulation. Libertarian Paradise. Those 3 elements are not libertarian. They are anarchist. Libertarians DO recognize the need for taxes, government and regulation. Ergo, Roscoe has echoed the same ignorance about the difference between L's and A's as the author of the image.
Some Libertarians express their beliefs in extremes. It is their expressions which largely form the public image. Surely there must be some way to express being Small Government, Economic Conservative, Social Liberal. The Libertarian party has done a poor job of controlling its message to project a less extreme image. This from Gary Johnson and Bill Weld is a good start -- if people get to see it.
I remember when I was a teenager and I first heard about libertarianism, for whatever reason the impression I got was that it advocated no government and no taxes whatsoever. Essentially confusing it with anarchism, which I came to understand much later in my life was an active philosophy. So yes, the difference does need to be publicized. I agree the confusion is likely still a widespread problem, as evidenced here on LF.
I suspect you're too dishonest to retract your ignorant falsehood. Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972 Specifically, we support the eventual repeal of all taxation... In those areas where individual rights or voluntary relations are not involved, we support an immediate reduction of government's present role, and ultimately, a total withdrawal of government intervention
His mix of ignorance and dishonesty resists separation.
Shall we also post evidence of how the Democrat party supports the right to own slaves? 1972 was, I believe, the birth date of the official Libertarian party, and the philosophy codified was certainly done by only a few people with very minimal review for catching things like excluding minors from the text you quote (assuming the quote is accurate). Certainly the intent was that the passage referring to relationships pertain only to adults, not children. As much as paedophilia is despised today, I think it could only be more so in 1972. But if YOU are honest, you'll reference the current Libertarian party platform instead of citing something that his 44 years old. In fact, I already have in the quote that limits such relationships to adults. The objection to the initiation of force does carry through today. Libertarians are opposed to it. I suppose wantonly attacking other countries as has been the ongoing practice of both R's and D's over the past 30 years is seen by you as very pro-American. Whatever floats your boat.
When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets] I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed. So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment. So much for John Hospers. BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?
William F. Buckley smoked weed, proving that you're one of those pothead Republicans, and a heroin addict! Pothead Republicans Buckley was a cuck. Like you!
There are some doozies in the 1972 platform. Always good for a laugh.
It's like the Libertarian Constitution.
Yeah, that wacky Republican journalist. Hey! Wait a minute ...
The Libertarian political party has NOTHING to do with libertarian principles other than in name only. Any attempt to demonstrate equivocation is pure idiocy. Roscoe is a pure idiot, therefore.
Here, let me help. Can you see the difference now, Roscoe?
More childish, inaccurate cartoons. What a loser! Libertarians, like their close cousins, the SJWs and cucks, always double down on their falsehoods and never man up.
Yeah, look close, neither have balls.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
More juvenile pictures. No wonder the sane people here laugh at you and your ignorant ilk. Stop. You'll make Deckard cry again.
Post some more cartoons so everyone can see what an idiot you are. That seems to be the limits of your debating "skills". Cry yourself to sleep.
Did the Democrats ever formally do that with slavery? That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that. Actually, no. Unlike the R's and D's who seem to base their platform on whatever the other party isn't supporting -- kind of like how neigborhood kids choose teamates when about to play baseball -- the L platform is generally based on the principles of what positions allow everyone an equal amount of maximum freedom. As with any ideology, the works of the originators are revised over time by better minds, and/or lessons learned from practical application. An excellent question. But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin. He posted an opinion about how statutory rape laws should be repealed: libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=46901&Disp=3#C3 Granted it's not his opinion, but he brought it up, erroneously promoting a post by a supposed libertarian as official libertarian doctrine.
You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you. I'll ask again: When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? I suspect your will reply will be just as craven as before.
You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you. Now you're being totally stupid and asinine. Secret change? Dude, visit lp.org and you too can down load a copy of the "secret" party platform. You don't even have to be a libertarian to get it. Isn't that incredible? Periodically, it is updated / changed with additions and such. You are rapidly proving yourself to be not worth responding to.
mumfff ... huh? Yes? You woke me from a sound sleep. This better be good. Pinguinite? You can handle him. I'm going back to bed.
And there's no repudiation of the longstanding principles of the Libertarian founders there, which is why you offer craven disingenuous insinuation instead of quotes. BTW - 2016: Our silence about any other particular government law, regulation, ordinance, directive, edict, control, regulatory agency, activity, or machination should not be construed to imply approval. Man up and admit you were trounced.
My apologies.
Oh, like that's a bad thing? We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. That's a view that is shared by some Republicans. Congressional Republicans Are Planning to Abolish the IRS The income tax is unconstitutional, but you knew that already. Right over your head.
Then I would suggest you not pay it.
mumfff ... huh? Yes? You woke me from a sound sleep. This better be good. Pinguinite? You can handle him. I'm going back to bed. He is such a lightweight, Roscoe is handling him triumphantly, Not to be taken as meaning that Roscoe couldn't handle a heavyweight just as easily. I have confidence is his ability to do just as well.
Did you see these police state advocates attempt to break the thread? They are beyond all else, foul, illerate back-wood's hicks.
That's funny ...
There was nothing of the kind to see. Your perception is cloudy, stay off that putrid shit. What you will see if you become level headed after you stop puffing the stuff long enough, are a few highly intelligent individuals intervene to energize a drowning and painfully failing exercise of attempted libertarian ego-fluffing where no one was showing sny interest in believing that “libertarians are awesome.” The “Intelligence Squad” actually saved the thread. The thread needed to be made good and spicy, the interveners saved a couple of libertarians playing ditto-heads from being boring.
I have some strong advice for you, as you are showing increasing insanity on a daily basis: go fuck your pal, yukon.
Exacty what "longstanding principles" do you think libertarians of today should repudiate? Uh, yes. Repeal of the income tax is in the LP platform. Should I infer from your citation that you think Libertarians want to repeal all taxation? If so.... The personal income tax is only one of an enormous number of federal taxes that the fed gov is the recipient of. Did you know that if personal income taxes were excluded from the federal budget, the fed gov would have the same amount of revenue that it had about 15 years ago? As I recall, the fed gov wasn't exactly living under a bridge 15 years ago. From Ron Paul. And while not all agree on his philosophies, there's no argument he's knowledgeable about economic facts on the fed gov: A slave living on a plantation was allowed to keep some of the efforts of his labor. The rest was "taxed" by the slave owner. Can you articulate the difference between a slave taxed on his labor and a modern worker taxed on his? If so, you'll be the first I've encountered. Some taxes are required. A personal income tax is not. It's more appropriate for you to admit you are clueless about what libertarians stand for. You are really embarrassing yourself.
They have NOT repudiated the principles I posted. Coward.
ROTFL! BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Go fuck your girlie-man, yukon.
Gatslime's megalomania is getting more pathological with each post he makes. Referring to himself and the other canary cultists as The “Intelligence Squad” only reinforces the fact that he is looney tunes. He's one short step away from thinking he is Jesus Christ. ROTFL! BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You are still getting your jollies off over: Yukon comes out of the closet are ya?
Illiterate, you illiterate.
Within the context of the "backwood's hicks," it was an intentional eye catching term that you even caught. ROTFL ....
What a load of buckeroo.
It's Saturday, his day off. He probably started on the "juice" to early today.
Looks like the weekend circle jerk is in full swing.
Day off? On Saturday? You would think that would be one of his busiest days at the bathhouse.
It appears you consider political platforms on the same level as religious creed. Are you looking for a quote from the Bible, perhaps? I don't think you know what that word means.
I'll pass on your invitation. But you go ahead and do whatever floats your boat.
You pulled your falsehoods out of your ass. No source.
It's amusing watching your simplistic mind in action. Keep up the sickening man-love with the other canary cretins. still your my the Make love If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Put some ice on it.
That WAY funny ... Maybe their "social" activities begin in the evening.
Wow - that's the best you can come up with? No offense, but you're pathetic. So, that's what you libertarians do on weekends. You are definitely a weird bunch of groupies ...
The special snowflakes spend their miserable lives being offended. It's what losers do.
#2. To: Pinguinite (#0)
#3. To: Roscoe (#1)
#4. To: Roscoe (#1)
Since you got me started, one more ...
#5. To: Roscoe (#1)
#6. To: Gatlin (#4)
#7. To: Roscoe (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#8. To: Pinguinite (#6)
Whomever authors all this artwork is similarly ignorant about what libertarianism is.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#9. To: Pinguinite (#6)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#10. To: Pinguinite (#5)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#11. To: hondo68 (#7)
#12. To: Deckard (#8)
Apparently it's the standard dogma among the anti-freedom posters here that only libertarians hate taxes and regulations and love guns.
#13. To: Roscoe (#10)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#14. To: Pinguinite (#12)
The most notable point of ignorance is that libertarians want no government whatsoever.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#15. To: Deckard (#14)
If anything, the current crop of self-described conservatives here have more in common with liberals than libertarians do.
#16. To: Pinguinite (#13)
Looks like you had a posting fubar.
#17. To: Pinguinite (#5)
"You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian."
#18. To: misterwhite (#17)
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
#19. To: Pinguinite (#12)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#20. To: nolu chan (#19)
Surely there must be some way to express being Small Government, Economic Conservative, Social Liberal. The Libertarian party has done a poor job of controlling its message to project a less extreme image.
#21. To: Pinguinite (#18)
Those 3 elements are not libertarian.
[N]o individual, group, or government may initiate force against any other individual, group, or government...
#22. To: misterwhite (#17)
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
#23. To: Roscoe (#21)
Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972
Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery.
#24. To: Pinguinite (#23)
#25. To: Roscoe. William F. Buckley reefer madness Republicans (#11)
It's a misconception that libertarians smoke pot?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#26. To: hondo68 (#25)
#27. To: Roscoe (#21)
#28. To: misterwhite (#27)
There are some doozies in the 1972 platform. Always good for a laugh.
#29. To: hondo68, Roscoe (#25)
"William F. Buckley smoked weed ..."
#30. To: Pinguinite, roscoe (#23)
#31. To: Pinguinite, Roscoe, misterwhite (#5)
(Edited)
You [Roscoe] obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#32. To: Gatlin (#31)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#33. To: Gatlin (#31)
#34. To: Gatlin (#31)
#35. To: Deckard (#32)
#36. To: Roscoe (#35)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#37. To: misterwhite (#29)
#38. To: Roscoe (#37)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#39. To: Deckard (#38)
#40. To: Roscoe, Gatlin (#24)
When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets]
I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed.
So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment.
BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?
#41. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#40)
That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that.
But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin.
Paging misterwhite...
#42. To: Roscoe (#41)
#43. To: Roscoe (#41)
"Paging misterwhite..."
#44. To: Pinguinite (#42)
(Edited)
Dude, visit lp.org and you too can down load a copy of the "secret" party platform.
All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors...
#45. To: misterwhite (#43)
#46. To: Roscoe, Pinguinite (#44)
All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#47. To: Deckard (#46)
Oh, like that's a bad thing?
#48. To: Deckard (#46)
"The income tax is unconstitutional, but you knew that already."
#49. To: misterwhite, Roscoe (#43)
"Paging misterwhite..."
#50. To: Gatlin (#49)
#51. To: Pinguinite (#0)
Just a friendly reminder... Thanks for reading!
#52. To: Roscoe (#50)
#53. To: buckeroo (#51)
Did you see these police state advocates attempt to break the thread? They are beyond all else, foul, illerate back-wood's hicks.
#54. To: Gatlin (#53)
#55. To: Roscoe (#44)
And there's no repudiation of the longstanding principles of the Libertarian founders there, which is why you offer craven disingenuous insinuation instead of quotes.
All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors...
We could eliminate the income tax, replace it with nothing, and still fund the same level of big government we had in the late 1990s.
www.ronpaul.com/taxes/
Man up and admit you were trounced.
#56. To: Pinguinite (#55)
Exacty what "longstanding principles" do you think libertarians of today should repudiate?
#57. To: buckeroo (#54)
#58. To: Gatlin (#57)
#59. To: buckeroo (#54)
I have some strong advice for you, as you are showing increasing insanity on a daily basis
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#60. To: buckeroo (#58)
#61. To: Gatlin (#60)
#62. To: buckeroo (#51)
illerate
#63. To: Roscoe (#62)
#64. To: buckeroo (#63)
it was an intentional
#65. To: Roscoe (#64)
#66. To: Gatlin, Roscoe, misterwhite (#65)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#67. To: Gatlin (#65)
It's Saturday, his day off.
#68. To: Roscoe (#56)
They have NOT repudiated the principles I posted.
Coward.
#69. To: Deckard (#66)
weekend circle jerk is in full swing.
#70. To: Pinguinite (#68)
#71. To: Roscoe (#69)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#72. To: buckeroo. yukon. gatlin (#61)
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#73. To: Deckard (#71)
#74. To: Roscoe (#67)
#75. To: Roscoe (#73)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#76. To: Deckard (#66)
Looks like the weekend circle jerk is in full swing.
#77. To: Gatlin (#74)
That WAY funny ...
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