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Title: Libertarians are Awesome
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Published: Jul 1, 2016
Author: Me
Post Date: 2016-07-01 03:00:22 by Pinguinite
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#2. To: Pinguinite (#0)
#3. To: Roscoe (#1)
#4. To: Roscoe (#1)
Since you got me started, one more ...
#5. To: Roscoe (#1)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#6. To: Gatlin (#4)
Whomever authors all this artwork is similarly ignorant about what libertarianism is.
#7. To: Roscoe (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#8. To: Pinguinite (#6)
Whomever authors all this artwork is similarly ignorant about what libertarianism is.
Apparently it's the standard dogma among the anti-freedom posters here that only libertarians hate taxes and regulations and love guns.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#9. To: Pinguinite (#6)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#10. To: Pinguinite (#5)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
#11. To: hondo68 (#7)
It's a misconception that libertarians smoke pot?
Fascinating.
#12. To: Deckard (#8)
Apparently it's the standard dogma among the anti-freedom posters here that only libertarians hate taxes and regulations and love guns.
The most notable point of ignorance is that libertarians want no government whatsoever.
#13. To: Roscoe (#10)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
Looks like you had a posting fubar.
#14. To: Pinguinite (#12)
The most notable point of ignorance is that libertarians want no government whatsoever.
The ignorance continues when they claim that libertarians are both liberals and anarchists.
They can't seem to gasp the concept that the two are polar opposites - modern liberals are in favor of MORE government, anarchists - none.
If anything, the current crop of self-described conservatives here have more in common with liberals than libertarians do.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#15. To: Deckard (#14)
If anything, the current crop of self-described conservatives here have more in common with liberals than libertarians do.
True. Both want big government control of life.
How does that saying go?
A conservative doesn't know the difference between a sin and a crime, and a liberal doesn't know the difference between charity and robbery.
#16. To: Pinguinite (#13)
Looks like you had a posting fubar.
Nope.
#17. To: Pinguinite (#5)
"You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian."
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
#18. To: misterwhite (#17)
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
You obviously have zero reading comprehension.
Roscoe posted an image that reads:
No taxes. No Government. No Regulation. Libertarian Paradise.
Those 3 elements are not libertarian. They are anarchist.
Libertarians DO recognize the need for taxes, government and regulation.
Ergo, Roscoe has echoed the same ignorance about the difference between L's and A's as the author of the image.
#19. To: Pinguinite (#12)
You obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
Some Libertarians express their beliefs in extremes. It is their expressions which largely form the public image.
Surely there must be some way to express being Small Government, Economic Conservative, Social Liberal. The Libertarian party has done a poor job of controlling its message to project a less extreme image. This from Gary Johnson and Bill Weld is a good start -- if people get to see it.
#20. To: nolu chan (#19)
Surely there must be some way to express being Small Government, Economic Conservative, Social Liberal. The Libertarian party has done a poor job of controlling its message to project a less extreme image.
I remember when I was a teenager and I first heard about libertarianism, for whatever reason the impression I got was that it advocated no government and no taxes whatsoever. Essentially confusing it with anarchism, which I came to understand much later in my life was an active philosophy. So yes, the difference does need to be publicized. I agree the confusion is likely still a widespread problem, as evidenced here on LF.
#21. To: Pinguinite (#18)
Those 3 elements are not libertarian.
I suspect you're too dishonest to retract your ignorant falsehood.
Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972
[N]o individual, group, or government may initiate force against any other individual, group, or government...Specifically, we support the eventual repeal of all taxation...
In those areas where individual rights or voluntary relations are not involved, we support an immediate reduction of government's present role, and ultimately, a total withdrawal of government intervention
#22. To: misterwhite (#17)
You obviously don't know the difference between Gatlin's post and Roscoe's post.
His mix of ignorance and dishonesty resists separation.
#23. To: Roscoe (#21)
Libertarian Party Statement of Principles, adopted June 17, 1972
Shall we also post evidence of how the Democrat party supports the right to own slaves?
Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery.
1972 was, I believe, the birth date of the official Libertarian party, and the philosophy codified was certainly done by only a few people with very minimal review for catching things like excluding minors from the text you quote (assuming the quote is accurate). Certainly the intent was that the passage referring to relationships pertain only to adults, not children. As much as paedophilia is despised today, I think it could only be more so in 1972. But if YOU are honest, you'll reference the current Libertarian party platform instead of citing something that his 44 years old. In fact, I already have in the quote that limits such relationships to adults. The objection to the initiation of force does carry through today. Libertarians are opposed to it. I suppose wantonly attacking other countries as has been the ongoing practice of both R's and D's over the past 30 years is seen by you as very pro-American. Whatever floats your boat.
#24. To: Pinguinite (#23)
When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets]
I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed. So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment. So much for John Hospers.
BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?
#25. To: Roscoe. William F. Buckley reefer madness Republicans (#11)
It's a misconception that libertarians smoke pot?
William F. Buckley smoked weed, proving that you're one of those pothead Republicans, and a heroin addict!
Pothead Republicans
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#26. To: hondo68 (#25)
Buckley was a cuck. Like you!
#27. To: Roscoe (#21)
There are some doozies in the 1972 platform. Always good for a laugh.
#28. To: misterwhite (#27)
There are some doozies in the 1972 platform. Always good for a laugh.
It's like the Libertarian Constitution.
#29. To: hondo68, Roscoe (#25)
"William F. Buckley smoked weed ..."
Yeah, that wacky Republican journalist. Hey! Wait a minute ...
#30. To: Pinguinite, roscoe (#23)
The Libertarian political party has NOTHING to do with libertarian principles other than in name only.
Any attempt to demonstrate equivocation is pure idiocy. Roscoe is a pure idiot, therefore.
#31. To: Pinguinite, Roscoe, misterwhite (#5) (Edited)
You [Roscoe] obviously don't know the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian.
Here, let me help.
Can you see the difference now, Roscoe?
#32. To: Gatlin (#31)
More childish, inaccurate cartoons.
What a loser!
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#33. To: Gatlin (#31)
Libertarians, like their close cousins, the SJWs and cucks, always double down on their falsehoods and never man up.
#34. To: Gatlin (#31)
Yeah, look close, neither have balls.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#35. To: Deckard (#32)
#36. To: Roscoe (#35)
More juvenile pictures.
No wonder the sane people here laugh at you and your ignorant ilk.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#37. To: misterwhite (#29)
Stop. You'll make Deckard cry again.
#38. To: Roscoe (#37)
Post some more cartoons so everyone can see what an idiot you are.
That seems to be the limits of your debating "skills".
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
#39. To: Deckard (#38)
Cry yourself to sleep.
#40. To: Roscoe, Gatlin (#24)
When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders? [crickets]
Did the Democrats ever formally do that with slavery?
I knew you wouldn't man up and retract, even after being thrashed.
That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that.
So Libertarian principles are not those established by the party's founders, but rather anything you happen to pull out of your backside at any given moment.
Actually, no. Unlike the R's and D's who seem to base their platform on whatever the other party isn't supporting -- kind of like how neigborhood kids choose teamates when about to play baseball -- the L platform is generally based on the principles of what positions allow everyone an equal amount of maximum freedom. As with any ideology, the works of the originators are revised over time by better minds, and/or lessons learned from practical application.
BTW, what's with all the paedophilia crap you're posting? I didn't mention it. Is it just something that you think about a lot?
An excellent question. But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin. He posted an opinion about how statutory rape laws should be repealed:
libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=46901&Disp=3#C3
Granted it's not his opinion, but he brought it up, erroneously promoting a post by a supposed libertarian as official libertarian doctrine.
#41. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#40)
That was a thrashing? I didn't realize that.
You realize it. Documented Libertarian principles are exactly as I stated, and your unsupported claim of some secret change in Libertarian principles by unnamed "better minds" is thoroughly pathetic. Even for you.
I'll ask again: When did the Libertarians repudiate their principles and their founders?
I suspect your will reply will be just as craven as before.
But one perhaps better directed to Gatlin.Paging misterwhite...
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